Zone1 Jew Hatred - I don't get it.

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It’s war. I already told you. Israel is being too lenient. Islam isn’t compatible with Western values.
Israel was too kind in leaving the Gazans to themselves when the Israelis vacated the area 15 years ago. Look what it got them: non-stop rocket attacks culminating in the Oct 7th massacre.

Once the Israelis have eradicated HAMAS completely, they will move in and rebuild - and allow Gazans to live there, but it will be under Israeli military and government control. The Jews will run the schools, the criminal justice system, and the infrastructure.
 
Israel was too kind in leaving the Gazans to themselves when the Israelis vacated the area 15 years ago. Look what it got them: non-stop rocket attacks culminating in the Oct 7th massacre.

Once the Israelis have eradicated HAMAS completely, they will move in and rebuild - and allow Gazans to live there, but it will be under Israeli military and government control. The Jews will run the schools, the criminal justice system, and the infrastructure.
Way too kind. Should have unleashed hellfire and smashed them.
 
That’s not true. I had awful experiences from Christians in childhood, in college, and even now in adulthood have been the victim of Christians who badger me with how Gd is angry at Jews and will send us to hell if we don’t convert to Christianity.
for insight into the continuing "jew-hate" amongst christians---a good
book is "CHILDHOOD AND SOCIETY" by Erikson---another book by
? ERICH FROMM ---both very insightful neurologists (all the original
psychiatrists were neurologists.) In sum----YOU ARE HIGHLY INFLUENCED
BY WHAT YOUR GREATGRANDMOTHER believed---you cannot ESCAPE. (see
"Escape From Freedom"
 
Israel was too kind in leaving the Gazans to themselves when the Israelis vacated the area 15 years ago. Look what it got them: non-stop rocket attacks culminating in the Oct 7th massacre.

Once the Israelis have eradicated HAMAS completely, they will move in and rebuild - and allow Gazans to live there, but it will be under Israeli military and government control. The Jews will run the schools, the criminal justice system, and the infrastructure.
not likely
 
Why isn’t that likely? What do you suggest Israel do with a people sworn to their destruction, and in the midst of an anti-Jew world?
what they should do? or what they can do----considering the present
temperament of the WORLD?
 
I am a Christian. I attend church regularly. I have never in my life heard a Christian blame Jews for the Crucifixion of Jesus. It is certainly not something talked about in sermons, or conversations in coffee hours after church. The few people I have ever heard who expressed hostility toward Jews were not church goers. Most were atheists.

Once on his "Old Time Gospel Hour" I heard Jerry Falwell say of the Jews, "They are God's people." I was a charter subscriber to Falwell's magazine, The Fundamentalist. No article in that magazine ever condemned Jews.

John Hagee’ is another televangelist. I found this on The Jewish Journal:

John Hagee: Christian pastor with a Zionist message​



Picture of Jonah Lowenfeld

Jonah Lowenfeld


August 29, 2012


It’s become a standard part of John Hagee’s stump speech, the story of how the evangelical pastor and founder of the 1.2 million-member Christians United For Israel (CUFI) first got started on the path of Israel advocacy.

It began with a trip to the Holy Land in 1978 — “I went to Israel as a tourist and came back a Zionist,” Hagee told the mostly Christian crowd of more than 1,000 at the Saban Theatre in Beverly Hills on Aug. 26. And then grew into something bigger with the Israeli airstrike that destroyed the nuclear reactor in Iraq in 1981.

“Israel has done the world a favor, and they should be complimented, not criticized,” Hagee said, recalling his reaction to the negative media coverage that followed the Israeli preemptive strike.

That was the inspiration for the first “Night to Honor Israel,” held in 1982 in Hagee’s hometown of San Antonio. He founded CUFI in 2006; today the rapidly growing organization stages about 40 “Night to Honor Israel” events every month in cities around the United States.


Jew haters have spent their lives watching Jews get better grades, better jobs, and better incomes. Now they fear being fired and replaced by more intelligent, better paid Jews who will perform their jobs faster, better, and with less effort.

That was the meaning of the chant heard at the Unite the Right Rally, given at Charlottsville, Virginia in August 2017, "Jews won't replace us."

Antisemitism has aptly been called "The socialism of fools."
It does not matter if they are learning "They killed Jesus" from birth or if they are learning something else, the latest lie and allegation about Jews.

The point is, Millions of Christians of ALL denominations are getting indoctrinated with lies about Jews on a daily basis in school, amongst friends, groups they join, and social media taken over by Iran groups and others, including many Christian ones in this country.

Each time there was a pogrom, it is because of lies told about Jews. The Inquisition would not have happened if the Catholic Church had not taught people and incited people constantly against Jews. The Holocaust would not have happened without it and the latest world protests would not have happened without both Christian and Muslim incitement against Jews with BDS, and the endless lies told about Israel and Jews which happen on a daily basis.

In Islam, all the pogroms have happened because of lies about Jews. In 1920 and on the Arabs were incited by one Clan by telling them this and that about the Jews. In 1929, 1948. Many Muslims have learned as much as too many Christians to think less of Jews as humans, and they have always treated Jews as less then humans. They follow the teachings of the Quran.

As I said, since the 1920s both learned hatreds have joined hands and have been doing everything to destroy Israel, and had no problem to jointly do everything to keep Jews from reaching the Mandate of Palestine to escape the Nazis during WWII.

People in both religions have worked together since then, especially since Nazis fled to Argentina, Egypt and Syria. The Jew hatred education has spread and has gotten stronger.

And now, all over Europe, Australia and US we see what indoctrination of the past 80 years has led to. Israel was attacked on 10/7 and very few batted an eye, most Western governments seem to be pro those protests because those governments, by Christians or others have been taken by the indoctrination those Jew haters and Israel destroyers want desperately to help them achieve their goal.

Nazis thinking that "Jews will replace them" is nothing new. It is the indoctrination of the new generations by those who hid they were Nazis and taught the new generations, as it was done for 1700 years, that there is something wrong with Jews and they do not deserve to be successful, much less be the boss of any Christians.
Which is exactly why Jews were always attacked and even murdered sometimes. As it happens now. So that they will not keep what they have worked hard and honestly for.

No one is saying you and your church, but there are many out there, including in the Vatican, who are anti Jews because of the teachings in the NT. And they would not help Jews at all, if it ever came to that.


People are different, no matter what they learn. Some will do good, some will do bad.


It is the ones who do not understand things and choose to accuse and help attack Jews that I have been talking about, religious, non religious, all of them.
 
what they should do? or what they can do----considering the present
temperament of the WORLD?
I just said. Move into Gaza and take control of the area. Set up a military station, run the schools, run the criminal justice system. Gazans can stay there as long as they obey Israeli law and don’t commit crimes against Jews (or each other).
 
I just said. Move into Gaza and take control of the area. Set up a military station, run the schools, run the criminal justice system. Gazans can stay there as long as they obey Israeli law and don’t commit crimes against Jews (or each other).
uhm-----in your dreams----even Trump would say "no"
 
So what do you suggest?
first things first----get the hostages home---the HEZBOLLAH because Hezbollah is shiite ----part of the EVIL AXIS that includes---Syria, Yemeni HOUTHIS and Iraq----absolutely attached to Iran which is VERY POWERFUL.
So far there is a very LIMP attempt to confine Hezbollah to north of the
Litani river---(an old idea----I seem to remember it way back in the ?? 1960s)
That would be the salvation of North Israel ---VERY IMPORTANT. ----then---
no doubt----back to the SOS (same old S^IT) ----the Emirates will do their best to declaw Iran (with some under the table help)
 
I am a Christian. I attend church regularly. I have never in my life heard a Christian blame Jews for the Crucifixion of Jesus. It is certainly not something talked about in sermons, or conversations in coffee hours after church. The few people I have ever heard who expressed hostility toward Jews were not church goers. Most were atheists.

Once on his "Old Time Gospel Hour" I heard Jerry Falwell say of the Jews, "They are God's people." I was a charter subscriber to Falwell's magazine, The Fundamentalist. No article in that magazine ever condemned Jews.

John Hagee’ is another televangelist. I found this on The Jewish Journal:

John Hagee: Christian pastor with a Zionist message​



Picture of Jonah Lowenfeld

Jonah Lowenfeld


August 29, 2012


It’s become a standard part of John Hagee’s stump speech, the story of how the evangelical pastor and founder of the 1.2 million-member Christians United For Israel (CUFI) first got started on the path of Israel advocacy.

It began with a trip to the Holy Land in 1978 — “I went to Israel as a tourist and came back a Zionist,” Hagee told the mostly Christian crowd of more than 1,000 at the Saban Theatre in Beverly Hills on Aug. 26. And then grew into something bigger with the Israeli airstrike that destroyed the nuclear reactor in Iraq in 1981.

“Israel has done the world a favor, and they should be complimented, not criticized,” Hagee said, recalling his reaction to the negative media coverage that followed the Israeli preemptive strike.

That was the inspiration for the first “Night to Honor Israel,” held in 1982 in Hagee’s hometown of San Antonio. He founded CUFI in 2006; today the rapidly growing organization stages about 40 “Night to Honor Israel” events every month in cities around the United States.


Jew haters have spent their lives watching Jews get better grades, better jobs, and better incomes. Now they fear being fired and replaced by more intelligent, better paid Jews who will perform their jobs faster, better, and with less effort.

That was the meaning of the chant heard at the Unite the Right Rally, given at Charlottsville, Virginia in August 2017, "Jews won't replace us."

Antisemitism has aptly been called "The socialism of fools."

Some Christian Churches, Christian groups, and ordinary Christians express antisemitism toward the Jewish people and the associated religion of Judaism. These can be thought of as examples of anti-Semitism expressed by Christians or by Christian communities. However, the term "Christian Anti-Semitism" has also been used to refer to anti-Jewish sentiments that arise out of Christian doctrinal or theological stances (by thinkers such as Jules Isaac, for example, especially in his book Jésus et Israël). The term "Christian Anti-Semitism" is also used to suggest that to some degree, contempt for Jews and for Judaism inhere to Christianity as a religion, itself, and that centralized institutions of Christian power (such as The Catholic Church or The Church of England), as well as governments with strong Christian influence (such as the Catholic Monarchs of Spain) have generated societal structures that survive to this day which perpetuate anti-Semitism. This usage appears particularly in discussions of Christian structures of power within society, which are referred to as Christian Hegemony or Christian Privilege; these are part of larger discussions of Structural inequality and power dynamics.

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Conversion of Jews​

See also: Hebrew Catholics, Hebrew Roots, Judaizers, and Messianic Judaism
Some Jewish organizations have denounced evangelistic and missionary activities which specifically target Jews by labeling them anti-Semitic.[99][100][101]

The Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), the largest Protestant Christian denomination in the U.S., has explicitly rejected suggestions that it should back away from seeking to convert Jews, a position which critics have called anti-Semitic, but a position which Baptists believe is consistent with their view that salvation is solely found through faith in Christ. In 1996 the SBC approved a resolution calling for efforts to seek the conversion of Jews "as well as the salvation of 'every kindred and tongue and people and nation.'"

Most Evangelicals agree with the SBC's position, and some of them also support efforts which specifically seek the Jews' conversion. Additionally, these Evangelical groups are among the most pro-Israel groups. (For more information, see Christian Zionism.) One controversial group which has received a considerable amount of support from some Evangelical churches is Jews for Jesus, which claims that Jews can "complete" their Jewish faith by accepting Jesus as the Messiah.

The Presbyterian Church (USA), the United Methodist Church, and the United Church of Canada have ended their efforts to convert Jews. While Anglicans do not, as a rule, seek converts from other Christian denominations,[102] the General Synod has affirmed that "the good news of salvation in Jesus Christ is for all and must be shared with all including people from other faiths or of no faith and that to do anything else would be to institutionalize discrimination".[103]

The Roman Catholic Church formerly operated religious congregations which specifically aimed to convert Jews. Some of these congregations were actually founded by Jewish converts, like the Congregation of Our Lady of Sion, whose members were nunsand ordained priests. Many Catholic saints were specifically noted for their missionary zeal to convert Jews, such as Vincent Ferrer. After the Second Vatican Council, many missionary orders which aimed to convert Jews to Christianity no longer actively sought to missionize (or proselytize) them. However, Traditionalist Roman Catholic groups, congregations and clergymen continue to advocate the missionizing of Jews according to traditional patterns, sometimes with success (e.g., the Society of St. Pius X which has notable Jewish converts among its faithful, many of whom have become traditionalist priests).

The Church's Ministry Among Jewish People (CMJ) is one of the ten official mission agencies of the Church of England. The Society for Distributing Hebrew Scriptures is another organisation, but it is not affiliated with the established Church.

There are several prophecies concerning the conversion of the Jewish people to Christianity in the scriptures of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS). The Book of Mormon teaches that the Jewish people need to believe in Jesus to be gathered to Israel.[104] The Doctrine & Covenants teaches that the Jewish people will be converted to Christianity during the second coming when Jesus appears to them and shows them his wounds.[105][106] It teaches that if the Jewish people do not convert to Christianity, then the world would be cursed.[107] Early LDS prophets, such as Brigham Young[108]: 144  and Wildord Woodruff,[106] taught that Jewish people could not be truly converted because of the curse which resulted from Jewish deicide.[109]: 205–206  However, after the establishment of the state of Israel, many LDS members felt that it was time for the Jewish people to start converting to Mormonism. During the 1950s, the LDS Church established several missions which specifically targeted Jewish people in several cities in the United States.[108]: 149  After the LDS church began to give the priesthood to all males regardless of race in 1978, it also started to deemphasize the importance of race with regard to conversion.[108]: 151  This led to a void of doctrinal teachings that resulted in a spectrum of views in how LDS members interpret scripture and previous teachings.[108]: 154  According to research which was conducted by Armand Mauss, most LDS members believe that the Jewish people will need to be converted to Christianity in order to be forgiven for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.[24]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has also been criticized for baptizing deceased Jewish Holocaust victims. In 1995, in part as a result of public pressure, church leaders promised to put new policies into place that would help the church to end the practice, unless it was specifically requested or approved by the surviving spouses, children or parents of the victims.[110] However, the practice has continued, including the baptism of the parents of Holocaust survivor and Jewish rights advocate Simon Wiesenthal.[111]

 
Some Christian Churches, Christian groups, and ordinary Christians express antisemitism toward the Jewish people and the associated religion of Judaism. These can be thought of as examples of anti-Semitism expressed by Christians or by Christian communities. However, the term "Christian Anti-Semitism" has also been used to refer to anti-Jewish sentiments that arise out of Christian doctrinal or theological stances (by thinkers such as Jules Isaac, for example, especially in his book Jésus et Israël). The term "Christian Anti-Semitism" is also used to suggest that to some degree, contempt for Jews and for Judaism inhere to Christianity as a religion, itself, and that centralized institutions of Christian power (such as The Catholic Church or The Church of England), as well as governments with strong Christian influence (such as the Catholic Monarchs of Spain) have generated societal structures that survive to this day which perpetuate anti-Semitism. This usage appears particularly in discussions of Christian structures of power within society, which are referred to as Christian Hegemony or Christian Privilege; these are part of larger discussions of Structural inequality and power dynamics.

--------------------

Conversion of Jews​

See also: Hebrew Catholics, Hebrew Roots, Judaizers, and Messianic Judaism
Some Jewish organizations have denounced evangelistic and missionary activities which specifically target Jews by labeling them anti-Semitic.[99][100][101]

The Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), the largest Protestant Christian denomination in the U.S., has explicitly rejected suggestions that it should back away from seeking to convert Jews, a position which critics have called anti-Semitic, but a position which Baptists believe is consistent with their view that salvation is solely found through faith in Christ. In 1996 the SBC approved a resolution calling for efforts to seek the conversion of Jews "as well as the salvation of 'every kindred and tongue and people and nation.'"

Most Evangelicals agree with the SBC's position, and some of them also support efforts which specifically seek the Jews' conversion. Additionally, these Evangelical groups are among the most pro-Israel groups. (For more information, see Christian Zionism.) One controversial group which has received a considerable amount of support from some Evangelical churches is Jews for Jesus, which claims that Jews can "complete" their Jewish faith by accepting Jesus as the Messiah.

The Presbyterian Church (USA), the United Methodist Church, and the United Church of Canada have ended their efforts to convert Jews. While Anglicans do not, as a rule, seek converts from other Christian denominations,[102] the General Synod has affirmed that "the good news of salvation in Jesus Christ is for all and must be shared with all including people from other faiths or of no faith and that to do anything else would be to institutionalize discrimination".[103]

The Roman Catholic Church formerly operated religious congregations which specifically aimed to convert Jews. Some of these congregations were actually founded by Jewish converts, like the Congregation of Our Lady of Sion, whose members were nunsand ordained priests. Many Catholic saints were specifically noted for their missionary zeal to convert Jews, such as Vincent Ferrer. After the Second Vatican Council, many missionary orders which aimed to convert Jews to Christianity no longer actively sought to missionize (or proselytize) them. However, Traditionalist Roman Catholic groups, congregations and clergymen continue to advocate the missionizing of Jews according to traditional patterns, sometimes with success (e.g., the Society of St. Pius X which has notable Jewish converts among its faithful, many of whom have become traditionalist priests).

The Church's Ministry Among Jewish People (CMJ) is one of the ten official mission agencies of the Church of England. The Society for Distributing Hebrew Scriptures is another organisation, but it is not affiliated with the established Church.

There are several prophecies concerning the conversion of the Jewish people to Christianity in the scriptures of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS). The Book of Mormon teaches that the Jewish people need to believe in Jesus to be gathered to Israel.[104] The Doctrine & Covenants teaches that the Jewish people will be converted to Christianity during the second coming when Jesus appears to them and shows them his wounds.[105][106] It teaches that if the Jewish people do not convert to Christianity, then the world would be cursed.[107] Early LDS prophets, such as Brigham Young[108]: 144  and Wildord Woodruff,[106] taught that Jewish people could not be truly converted because of the curse which resulted from Jewish deicide.[109]: 205–206  However, after the establishment of the state of Israel, many LDS members felt that it was time for the Jewish people to start converting to Mormonism. During the 1950s, the LDS Church established several missions which specifically targeted Jewish people in several cities in the United States.[108]: 149  After the LDS church began to give the priesthood to all males regardless of race in 1978, it also started to deemphasize the importance of race with regard to conversion.[108]: 151  This led to a void of doctrinal teachings that resulted in a spectrum of views in how LDS members interpret scripture and previous teachings.[108]: 154  According to research which was conducted by Armand Mauss, most LDS members believe that the Jewish people will need to be converted to Christianity in order to be forgiven for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.[24]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has also been criticized for baptizing deceased Jewish Holocaust victims. In 1995, in part as a result of public pressure, church leaders promised to put new policies into place that would help the church to end the practice, unless it was specifically requested or approved by the surviving spouses, children or parents of the victims.[110] However, the practice has continued, including the baptism of the parents of Holocaust survivor and Jewish rights advocate Simon Wiesenthal.[111]

I have noticed LATELY a, relatively speaking, NEWBIE amongst christians which is "I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT JEWS KILLING JESUS"-----
Interestingly---another newbie from muslims "Sunnis and Shiites have
nothing against each other". My impression is that this BULLSHIT dissimilitude has been going on for about 30 years
 
Thread closed. For pages now it is nothing more than antisemitic and racist slurs. It has not met Zone 1 rules for a long time now and isn’t cleanable.
 
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