Zone1 Jew Hatred - I don't get it.

[ding]

Do you not understand the nature of the Trinity? Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? All three are one.

Body, mind and soul. All three are one. Coequal in majesty. Coequal in glory.

 

[Foxfyre]

I did not miss the point. You are a religious Christian and want to fit a Jewish man from a religion where no human is born to god and female human to the accepted belief amongst many Christians that he was, as if Judaism was Paganism - where that idea comes from.

Paganism had many humans being born from their gods with a female human. None of them came to save the world.

That is Paul of Tarsus way to attract followers to his new ideology, for his own reasons. But he chose a man, a people, a religion which was never that, and could never become that which Paganism was.

Abraham abandoned Paganism and the many gods when he left for Canaan to follow his one and only G-D.

Someone like yourself has a hard time understanding the one G-D concept, that there is no sudden substitution of that G-D 1800 years later for ANY reason. Jesus and the G_D of Abraham cannot both be gods because then Judaism goes back to being Paganism.

No, I do not expect any of those who are very religious Christians to even attempt to understand what was sacred to Jesus and all Jews since Abraham.

I respect your beliefs and do not believe it is right for me to tell you that you are wrong.

Please respect mine.

 

[irosie91]

I respect your beliefs and do not believe it is right for me to tell you that you are wrong.

Please respect mine.

your belief has been and is the basis of the justification used by millions
for the murder &/or ongoing persecution of millions of persons of my
belief. Please respect fact.

 

[Foxfyre]

your belief has been and is the basis of the justification used by millions
for the murder &/or ongoing persecution of millions of persons of my
belief. Please respect fact.

I am sorry you think that. You are so very VERY wrong about that.

 

[irosie91]

I am sorry you think that. You are so very VERY wrong about that.

OH? no one ever told you "the jews killed Jesus"? or even
"the jews hate Jesus"?

 

[hobelim]

Body, mind and soul. All three are one. Coequal in majesty. Coequal in glory.

Like when you are at mass and you feel the exhilaration of your soul "bursting at the seems"?

Coequal in majesty? Coequal in glory? Copra sanctum! If it isn't the ding with no clothes! Oi!

Sounds awesome dude! I am very happy for you. As for me, I prefer for my soul to remain intact.

 

[daveman]

take a hint -

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find another book to read - forgeries, lies and fallacies on nearly every page is not religion or anything else than deliberate deception and political nepotism for the mentally disturbed.

I'll stick with God's Word, thanks. You can keep your false teachings. They won't get you into Heaven.

 

[daveman]

That is a Christian belief for the purpose of Christianity and of Christians. Developed in time as Christianity grew and took the place of Paganism.

As I said before, Judaism has only one G-D, one only. For 1800 years before Christianity and after it, it continues to be that way.

No human being is born and takes shape as the G-D of Abraham and take his place.

First Commandment: Thou Shall Not Have Any Other Gods but me.

It is that way because of all the other Pagan gods which existed, including the ones Abraham abandoned to follow the G-D he chose to follow, which he did all the way to Canaan.

Your Trinity is a pagan idea. Many who followed Christianity could not abandon their pagan ideas, and this is one of them.

A Demigod is born to a god and a female human being. That is Hercules and many other mythical Demigods of the time and of the area. You may research all of that.

It was never Judaism, for the simple fact that Abraham rejected paganism and all its many gods and idolatry and chose to follow one G-D, and one G-D only.

Which means that Jesus, a Jew who was also a religious Rabbi, followed in Abrham's footsteps of following one G-D, the G-D of Abraham.

I understand that your religious education makes it difficult to understand that. It is all in the Hebrew Scriptures.

All that is written in the NT is borrowed from prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures because some of Paul of Tarsus, who were educated felt that those phrophecies were connected to what they had heard or read about Jesus from Paul himself and his letters.

These were people who did not live at the time of Jesus, not even Paul of Tarsus, and never met him. They believed because of the need to believe and need to deal with the Romans who had conquered all of their world, from England to Judea, etc.


This is the best I can do to explain the difference between Judaism and Christianity.

Had Paul of Tarsus not accused Jews of this and that Christianity would never have gone after the Jews at any time. It would have been simply another believe, cult, religion. The accusations of killing a Demigod who was supposed to save the world, all humans, bring peace to the world, made all the difference.

-shrug-

Like I told BreezeWood, I'll stick with God's Word.

 

[daveman]

Body, mind and soul. All three are one. Coequal in majesty. Coequal in glory.

Uh huh.

 

[ding]

Like when you are at mass and you feel the exhilaration of your soul "bursting at the seems"?

Yes, exactly like that and more. It's a way of being. Early Christians didn't call it The Way for nothing. Your pride won't allow you to access it. You are your own God. You could never surrender to God. Life is unfair. Expect to make sacrifices. God did.

 

[ding]

Coequal in majesty? Coequal in glory? Copra sanctum! If it isn't the ding with no clothes! Oi!

If you are trying to make Jews look bad, you're doing a great job.

 

[ding]

Sounds awesome dude! I am very happy for you. As for me, I prefer for my soul to remain intact.

Only time will tell but that applies to everyone. He will know us by our fruits. Talk is cheap.

 

[hobelim]

Early Christians didn't call it The Way for nothing.

Right. They called it THE WAY because Moses said, "You have defied the Lord while I am alive. How much more then will you do so after I am dead, for I know that after my death you will turn aside from THE WAY that I taught to follow the Law" and turn to degrading practices....

What Jesus called the traditions of men, what became the Talmud, 1000 yr tradition at the time

Jesus just taught people to comply with THE WAY that Moses originally taught to follow the Law, the only WAY to understand the figurative language and hidden subjects of the Law and do it that fulfills the promise of abundant blessings and eternal life here and now on earth., Not after you die physically, and not at some far off distant end of time after being ground to dust for eons

NOW.

 

[ding]

Right. They called it THE WAY because Moses said, "You have defied the Lord while I am alive. How much more then will you do so after I am dead, for I know that after my death you will turn aside from THE WAY that I taught to follow the Law" and turn to degrading practices....

What Jesus called the traditions of men, what became the Talmud, 1000 yr tradition at the time

Jesus just taught people to comply with THE WAY that Moses originally taught to follow the Law, the only WAY to understand the figurative language and hidden subjects of the Law and do it that fulfills the promise of abundant blessings and eternal life here and now on earth., Not after you die physically, and not at some far off distant end of time after being ground to dust for eons

NOW.

No. That's not why early Christians called it the way.

Are Jews supposed to evangelize like you are doing?

 

[Sixties Fan]

-shrug-

Like I told BreezeWood, I'll stick with God's Word.

In the meantime, those who are Christians and also believe in Jesus continue to attack Jews with accusations of killing him, or bringing plagues, wars, etc.

Right now, the extremist and violent ones are attacking Jews by believing that Jews do not belong on their ancient homeland. Just because someone said so for the past 100 years.

So, never mind that some Christians are raised with endless lies about Jews and ACT on those beliefs with violence and commit murder.

THAT, violence and murder of Jews by devout Christians has been happening since the Romans took over Christianity for the past 1700 years.

Belief is one thing, what too many have done with that belief with the power they had against Jews for the past 1700 is what needs to be looked at and find a way of stopping it.

But.....what do you care. Jesus was a human being like you and me, like Buddha, like Confusius, neither one was turned into a god and no one in India or China went to kill any other group of people in his name, or because of any lies told about them.

So, how do we end the lies about Jesus, about all Jews and turn Christianity into what Buddhism and Counfusiosim have been for 5000 years or so?
Peaceful beliefs which do not scapegoat on any one group and do not tell lies or try to destroy any one group?

Should not that be the word of any god, to treat others as one wishes one be treated? Which is a saying 100 years older than Jesus, by another Jew.

I will not hold my breath that you, and all others here can step away from your beliefs for a second and look at the whole picture and see what has been done, not for Jesus, but for the sake of the power so many men took upon themselves and used and abused to attack the Jewish people as the epitome of being "bad and evil people".

 

[irosie91]

OH? no one ever told you "the jews killed Jesus"? or even
"the jews hate Jesus"?

No one---of the jelly-bean set---DEIGNED to answer my question--
even mr. fox-fire

 

[BreezeWood]

I am sorry you think that. You are so very VERY wrong about that.

the 1st century events from the beginning are the repudiation of judaism false commandments made by moses, hereditary idolatry lies of abraham et al - truth being mary joseph jesus mary m are heavenly chosen for no other reason than their lack of fear for the then false prevailing religion ... exemplars for the future for those who do understand.

 

[irosie91]

the 1st century events from the beginning are the repudiation of judaism false commandments made by moses, hereditary idolatry lies of abraham et al - truth being mary joseph jesus mary m are heavenly chosen for no other reason than their lack of fear for the then false prevailing religion ... exemplars for the future for those who do understand.

true---the first century events were a repudiation of Judaism----
which in sum was actually a repudiation of the person JESUS---
the Pharisee jew who over-turned the tables of the SHILLS OF ROME--
money changers and was the cousin of Pharisee JOHN THE MIKVEH MAN

 

[kjw47]

yeah sure!!!! blame poor satan-----another scapegoat. Satan---according
to some benighted theologians is the former LUCIPHER ----a real ADONIS
kid from the 'hood. We have HOLY DEI now. SATAN has been BROUGHT
BACK INTO uhm righteous society----your Reject!!!!

Jesus said satan is the ruler of this world-John 14:30) john 12-31-- mentions him again)))-2Cor 4:4 calls satan the god of this system of things.
Best believe the bible-run from the darkness.

 

[daveman]

In the meantime, those who are Christians and also believe in Jesus continue to attack Jews with accusations of killing him, or bringing plagues, wars, etc.

They're wrong.

But.....what do you care. Jesus was a human being like you and me, like Buddha, like Confusius, neither one was turned into a god and no one in India or China went to kill any other group of people in his name, or because of any lies told about them.

You're wrong, but that's okay.

So, how do we end the lies about Jesus, about all Jews and turn Christianity into what Buddhism and Counfusiosim have been for 5000 years or so?
Peaceful beliefs which do not scapegoat on any one group and do not tell lies or try to destroy any one group?

You're angry at the wrong group of people. You should be angry at the people who want all Jews dead -- leftists.

Nor are you going to talk anyone out of their faith.

Should not that be the word of any god, to treat others as one wishes one be treated? Which is a saying 100 years older than Jesus, by another Jew.

I will not hold my breath that you, and all others here can step away from your beliefs for a second and look at the whole picture and see what has been done, not for Jesus, but for the sake of the power so many men took upon themselves and used and abused to attack the Jewish people as the epitome of being "bad and evil people".

The vast majority of Christians are on your side, supporting Jews and the Jewish homeland.

Like I said, you're angry at the wrong people.