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January 6 Was Not A Coup

Ray From Cleveland

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The system failed. The courts refused to get involved and didn't allow any cases to go forward so actual evidence could be discovered by use of subpoenas and discovery. It seems like after Gore took Florida's election to the Florida Supreme Court and Bush had to go to SCOTUS to overrule their partisan decision, the courts came to an agreement to not get involved in elections anymore.

They never did really. The courts are only there to decide if law was followed and there are no constitutional violations. The only reason the SC got involved with Bush is because the Florida courts were practicing judicial legislation if not judicial activism. If not for that, the SC would have never heard the case.
 

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You're throwing shit against the wall hoping some of it sticks. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, but the argument I made is there was never a serious insurrection. They had no way to take over the government. Democrat hysteria on that is as stupid as everything you say and do. You're idiots and racists

Even the commies know it wasn't that big of a deal which is why they are trying like hell to make it a big deal: insurrection, taking over the government, the biggest threat to our democracy in history. By who? A bunch of yahoos that were trespassing?

As we both know Democrat voters are like puppets. All you need to do to make them believe something is pull the right strings.
 

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That Mob had ONE JOB. Stop the electoral count. In that they succeded.

The rest of the Coup was supposed to be carried out by Pence, GOP Congresscritters and Trump lawyers...possibly including the SC

They didn't stop shit. They delayed it for a few hours at most. My Lord you people are such trained monkeys.
 

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Said the shit throwing monkey.
Since you recognize one of the crimes Trump committed following his loss in November 2020 . . .

They had "plans" to use the protest to put political pressure on Pence and Congress to try to decertify the election and thus win it by political or procedural means.


What do you know about this guy?

“What occurred on January 6th cannot be considered under any circumstances a protest, rally of civil disobedience. This was a well-planned, coordinated insurrection at the United States Capitol," Sund wrote. "​
 

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They delayed it for a few hours at most.

Trump can get a few years for that you know:

OBSTRUCTING AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING

In a March 2 court filing, the committee detailed Trump's efforts to persuade then-Vice President Mike Pence to either reject slates of electors for Joe Biden, who won the election, or delay a congressional count of those votes..

The president's efforts likely violated a federal law making it illegal to "corruptly" obstruct any official proceeding, or attempt to do so, said David Carter, the California federal judge overseeing the case.

Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, said Trump dismissed concerns that some supporters gathered for his fiery speech outside the White House that day carried AR-15-style rifles, instead asking security to stop screening attendees with magnetometers so the crowd would look larger.
 

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The truth about January 6 is coming out.

You posted a link to this

Antifa was actively involved in the January 6th protests and riots.

This has been widely discussed by officials and in reports on this website.​
Cristina Laila wrote this back in February 2021 — Ex-Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund dropped a bombshell in February 2021 during a hearing before the Senate Rules and Homeland Security committees.​


Here’s the truth according to Ex-Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund officially:


“What occurred on January 6th cannot be considered under any circumstances a protest, rally of civil disobedience. This was a well-planned, coordinated insurrection at the United States Capitol," Sund wrote. "
www.foxnews.com

Former Capitol Police chief seeks to 'set record straight' about insurrection in letter to Pelosi, others

In a detailed letter addressed to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, former U.S. Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said the department "did not fail" on Jan. 6, arguing that Capitol Police did everything it could with the intelligence available beforehand, but still did not expect a group of "thousands...
www.foxnews.com
 

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And John Eastman, Jordan, McCarthy..... all hiding too.

Trump's not letting his side, tell their side .... but you can bet he's blaming Pelosi.

Really? And how is citizen Trump stopping them?
 

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Trump can get a few years for that you know:

OBSTRUCTING AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING

In a March 2 court filing, the committee detailed Trump's efforts to persuade then-Vice President Mike Pence to either reject slates of electors for Joe Biden, who won the election, or delay a congressional count of those votes..

The president's efforts likely violated a federal law making it illegal to "corruptly" obstruct any official proceeding, or attempt to do so, said David Carter, the California federal judge overseeing the case.

Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, said Trump dismissed concerns that some supporters gathered for his fiery speech outside the White House that day carried AR-15-style rifles, instead asking security to stop screening attendees with magnetometers so the crowd would look larger.

Then this judge is FOS. Trump can make any request he wanted to. There is no law that a contender for President can't exercise any means necessary to try and assure an election.

You're putting a lot of money on the table to back a bimbo who doesn't know anything directly and who's stories she told about people said she was FOS. It all boils down to the fact Trump didn't give her a job that she asked for after Biden was sworn in.
 

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Pence should have done the right thing.

There is no law that a contender for President can't exercise any means necessary to try and assure an election.
After December 14 2020 when all states certified the real electors Trump was no longer a contender. He is the official certified loser having absolutely no say whatsoever to assure the election was valid. The states officially and Constitutionally did that on or before December 14z
 

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After December 14 2020 when all states certified the real electors Trump was no longer a contender. He is the official certified loser having absolutely no say whatsoever to assure the election was valid. The states officially and Constitutionally did that on or before December 14z

So show me the law that states he cannot request or look into possible election fraud.
 

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So show me the law that states he cannot request or look into possible election fraud.
Trump can look into possible election fraud all he wants to this day until he is bluish-orange in the face. The question you should ask is why didn’t he?

Trump broke the law when he conspired with others including members of Congress to obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the Joint Session of Congress set forth in the CONSTITUTION to occur on every January 6th following a presidential election for the purpose of counting the certified slates of electors from each state.

Here is

18 U.S. Code § 1505 - Obstruction of proceedings​

law;

Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress—

Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years,
 
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Trump can get a few years for that you know:

OBSTRUCTING AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING

In a March 2 court filing, the committee detailed Trump's efforts to persuade then-Vice President Mike Pence to either reject slates of electors for Joe Biden, who won the election, or delay a congressional count of those votes..

The president's efforts likely violated a federal law making it illegal to "corruptly" obstruct any official proceeding, or attempt to do so, said David Carter, the California federal judge overseeing the case.

Cassidy Hutchinson, an aide to then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, said Trump dismissed concerns that some supporters gathered for his fiery speech outside the White House that day carried AR-15-style rifles, instead asking security to stop screening attendees with magnetometers so the crowd would look larger.
First I’m waiting for you, or any leftist to draw the line between Trump, and those supposedly in charge of this coordinated insurrection….got that yet? Or are you simply going to ignore that part…
 
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Trump can look into possible election fraud all he wants to this day until he is bluish-orange in the face. The question you should ask is why didn’t he?

Trump broke the law when he conspired with others including members of Congress to obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the Joint Session of Congress set forth in the CONSTITUTION to occur on every January 6th following a presidential election for the purpose of counting the certified slates of electors from each state.

Here is

18 U.S. Code § 1505 - Obstruction of proceedings​

law;

Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress—

Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years,
You haven’t proven ANY conspiracy, unless it was by Vulcan mind meld or something…
 
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"Insurrection" has been the word of the day ever since the stolen election. The projetioneer communists just can't help themselves.

:rolleyes:
 

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You haven’t proven ANY conspiracy, unless it was by Vulcan mind meld or something…
DJT admitted to conspiring with John Eastman when he mentioned the author of the coup memo and says if the memo is followed “we win”. For DJT to serve a second term he had to have others to obstruct the official Jan6 proceeding and create chaos to make his win happen.

here is one of DJT’s Stop the Steal conspiracy admissions from Jan 6.


Trump rallying the forces at noon January 6, 2021: - - - “John [Eastman] is one of the most brilliant lawyers in the country, and he looked at this and he said, “What an absolute disgrace that this can be happening to our Constitution.” And he looked at Mike Pence, and I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so. - - - Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election.
 

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