Janet Reno Dies

[Mrs. M.]

The Clinton's were in the White House when Elian Gonzales was taken. What did you expect MSM to write? Of course they lied, used fixed polling and told the story the Clinton's wanted out there, Joe. Just like they are doing right now. Just like old times for the Clinton's and their MSM, isn't it? The media have been a liberal bunch for decades. No surprise that they lie through their teeth. So does Hillary Clinton. Birds of a feather...

Note that is a CNN poll. Clinton News Network, Inc. You must be kidding me, Joe.

Actually, most people I talked to at the time, you know, sane people who weren't upset that Castro spanked us in 1960, thought sending him back was the right thing.

Again, his father had legal rights, baring any evidence of abuse or unfitness, which there was none.

Also, I get a little sick and tired of America kow-towing the Cuban American community.

Communists are sane people? Who knew? Looking at the work of Mao, Kim Jong Il and his son, I'd say they are utterly insane. Then again, I'm not a Communist like you and your candidate Mrs. Clinton. It's a shame that the Cuban-American people are not here to read this, Joe, and see that you are sick and tired of Americans showing concern for the Cuban American Community.

You could have been Hillary Clinton's son!
She's sick and tired of Americans too!
Just read Wikileaks Podesta emails!
It's all there!

 

[JoeB131]

Communists are sane people? Who knew? Looking at the work of Mao, Kim Jong Il and his son, I'd say they are utterly insane. Then again, I'm not a Communist like you and your candidate Mrs. Clinton.

Yawn, McCarthyism died a long time ago.

It's a shame that the Cuban-American people are not here to read this, Joe, and see that you are sick and tired of Americans showing concern for the Cuban American Community.

I remember the Cubans burning American flags in Miami when they sent Elianhome. I'm all for sending the lot of them back.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

RIP Janet Reno. This is misleading ca-ca. I'm fine with Janet Reno and mourn her loss. She was truly independent than the feces that is Loretta Lynch appointed by the worst POTUS ever, Barack Obama. Bill Clinton learned from what happened with Janet Reno and taught Obama his dirty tricks.

I'm sure Janet Reno would've prosecuted Hillary Clinton back in July.

"Ms. Reno brought a fierce independence to her job. From the FBI siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Texas to the investigation into Clinton’s sexual relationship with intern Monica Lewinsky, she was adamant that her prosecutors and agents work outside the influence of politics, media or popular opinion.

Her supporters believed she brought a heightened level of integrity and professionalism to the attorney general’s office. They admired her insistence on legal exactitude from her employees and praised her caution in prosecutions.

Ms. Reno resisted weeks of pressure to arrest Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, waiting until she thought agents had sufficient legal justification to tie him to the 1993 World Trade Center bombings. He was later convicted.

On Feb. 12, 1993, President Clinton named Janet Reno the nation's first female attorney general. (Doug Mills/AP)
“She was a very powerful force for lawfulness,” said Walter E. Dellinger III, a Duke University law professor who served as solicitor general during Ms. Reno’s tenure. “She was always challenging to make sure there was a sound legal basis for what people were doing. And she was adamant about separating the department from politics.”

Business leaders criticized her lengthy prosecution of Microsoft on charges of anti-competitive violations — a case that ultimately ended in a settlement under the George W. Bush administration.

Civil libertarians took Ms. Reno to task for her handling of the espionage case against former Los Alamos National Laboratory scientist Wen Ho Lee, who was held in solitary confinement for nine months after being charged with mishandling nuclear secrets, only to be released on a lesser charge. Even Clinton said he was troubled by the case; Ms. Reno refused to apologize.

Republicans criticized her bitterly for pandering to the Clinton White House — she refused, for instance, to launch an independent investigation into whether Vice President Al Gore illegally fundraised from the White House during the 1996 Clinton-Gore reelection campaign. Democrats, meanwhile, disparaged her for abandoning her political patrons. Ms. Reno said first lady Hillary Clinton never forgave her for authorizing an investigation into the Lewinsky affair."

Janet Reno, fiercely independent U.S. attorney general of 1990s, dies at 78

i know james bond is trying to be funny and not sincere in saying rest in peace Janet.lol

 

[LA RAM FAN]

RIP Janet Reno. This is misleading ca-ca. I'm fine with Janet Reno and mourn her loss. She was truly independent than the feces that is Loretta Lynch appointed by the worst POTUS ever, Barack Obama. Bill Clinton learned from what happened with Janet Reno and taught Obama his dirty tricks.

I'm sure Janet Reno would've prosecuted Hillary Clinton back in July.

"Ms. Reno brought a fierce independence to her job. From the FBI siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Texas to the investigation into Clinton’s sexual relationship with intern Monica Lewinsky, she was adamant that her prosecutors and agents work outside the influence of politics, media or popular opinion.

Her supporters believed she brought a heightened level of integrity and professionalism to the attorney general’s office. They admired her insistence on legal exactitude from her employees and praised her caution in prosecutions.

Ms. Reno resisted weeks of pressure to arrest Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, waiting until she thought agents had sufficient legal justification to tie him to the 1993 World Trade Center bombings. He was later convicted.

On Feb. 12, 1993, President Clinton named Janet Reno the nation's first female attorney general. (Doug Mills/AP)
“She was a very powerful force for lawfulness,” said Walter E. Dellinger III, a Duke University law professor who served as solicitor general during Ms. Reno’s tenure. “She was always challenging to make sure there was a sound legal basis for what people were doing. And she was adamant about separating the department from politics.”

Business leaders criticized her lengthy prosecution of Microsoft on charges of anti-competitive violations — a case that ultimately ended in a settlement under the George W. Bush administration.

Civil libertarians took Ms. Reno to task for her handling of the espionage case against former Los Alamos National Laboratory scientist Wen Ho Lee, who was held in solitary confinement for nine months after being charged with mishandling nuclear secrets, only to be released on a lesser charge. Even Clinton said he was troubled by the case; Ms. Reno refused to apologize.

Republicans criticized her bitterly for pandering to the Clinton White House — she refused, for instance, to launch an independent investigation into whether Vice President Al Gore illegally fundraised from the White House during the 1996 Clinton-Gore reelection campaign. Democrats, meanwhile, disparaged her for abandoning her political patrons. Ms. Reno said first lady Hillary Clinton never forgave her for authorizing an investigation into the Lewinsky affair."

Janet Reno, fiercely independent U.S. attorney general of 1990s, dies at 78

Lies, Lies and more lies! You've just quoted a story from Washington Post owned by Jeff Bezos who is the Amazon CEO friend and partner of Hillary Clinton! That's mainstream media! Do you realize that? The same Jeff Bezos who wouldn't permit Bob Woodward to do an investigative report on Hillary Clinton's email server scandal in order to protect his candidate Hillary Clinton! You can bet that this hogwash article of "revisionism" on Reno was pre-approved by the Clinton - Podesta camp before it ever went online. Are you really that naive?

MSM such as Washington Post have been writing lies for Clinton camp and have lost ALL credibility or haven't you been paying attention?
James Bond you are not! Don't quit your day job, Bub!

yeah this troll is probably another paid shill that has penetrated this forum the fact he is not only posting lies but has the audacity to say RIP to that mass murderer of children.

 

[S.J.]

 

[james bond]

Check snopes.

 

[S.J.]

Check snopes.

For what?

 

[MikeK]

[...]

And four investigations determined the Davidians committed mass suicide.

With the vigorous provocation and assistance of the BATF and FBI/HRT.

 

[MikeK]

It is said if one cannot say something good about the dead it's best to say nothing at all.

Okay. The degenerate bitch, Reno, is dead -- and that's good. Too bad she didn't suffer longer.

 

[james bond]

Check snopes.

For what?

For your meme. Snope it.

 

[S.J.]

Check snopes.

For what?

For your meme. Snope it.

Snopes has no credibility. They're a tool of the left, everybody knows that.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

[...]

And four investigations determined the Davidians committed mass suicide.

With the vigorous provocation and assistance of the BATF and FBI/HRT.

Joe is such a stupid fuck,he actually believes the governments version of events that bin ladin and 19 muslins were behind the attacks even though the government failed to prove it.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

It is said if one cannot say something good about the dead it's best to say nothing at all.

Okay. The degenerate bitch, Reno, is dead -- and that's good. Too bad she didn't suffer longer.

amen to that.

 

[MikeK]

[...]

And four investigations determined the Davidians committed mass suicide.

Even if this were true, which there is plenty of evidence that says it is not, knowing there were 21 innocent children in that building, some as young as two, little tots, the feds went about deliberately provoking the Davidians, defying a known psychos threat to commit mass suicide. Then they broke through a wall, filled the building with flammable tear gas, which they followed with gas canisters which burn off at 3000f.

Do you disagree that the first concern of Clinton, Reno, and every federal agent involved in that disgraceful operation should have been the safety of those children -- who effectively were hostages of an irrational cult?

Whether the Davidians or the feds brought about the horrible deaths of those children, is there any way to justify it?

 

[JoeB131]

With the vigorous provocation and assistance of the BATF and FBI/HRT.

Maybe. But you know what, they had 51 days to think about it. And they chose mass suicide, anyway. Then again these were people who were letting Koresh have sex with their kids.

 

[JoeB131]

Even if this were true, which there is plenty of evidence that says it is not, knowing there were 21 innocent children in that building, some as young as two, little tots, the feds went about deliberately provoking the Davidians, defying a known psychos threat to commit mass suicide. Then they broke through a wall, filled the building with flammable tear gas, which they followed with gas canisters which burn off at 3000f.

Do you disagree that the first concern of Clinton, Reno, and every federal agent involved in that disgraceful operation should have been the safety of those children -- who effectively were hostages of an irrational cult?

Whether the Davidians or the feds brought about the horrible deaths of those children, is there any way to justify it?

There's no evidence that says that there is not.

So leaving the children with a known pedophile in unsanitary and unsafe conditions until he decided to give up was a better idea?

Maybe. Easy to Monday morning quarterback.

end of the day, it was Koresh who made the decision to escalate, not the ATF or FBI.

 

[MikeK]

There's no evidence that says that there is not.

There is plenty of evidence if you'd care to make an effort to find it. One place to start is a book called, Ashes of Waco, by Dick Reavis. He is a lawyer who took a personal interest in that stand-off and made a determined study of every aspect, which he details in his book and provides documentation for all of his findings -- which amount to an indictment of Bill Clinton, Janet Reno, and the federal agents who performed disgracefully at Waco. You can get this book, along with several others which are also very informative, from Amazon.

You can also educate yourself a bit via Google research. Hopefully your mind is not closed to anything that runs counter to what you've been brainwashed to believe. Because you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

So leaving the children with a known pedophile in unsanitary and unsafe conditions until he decided to give up was a better idea?

One of the things you can learn by researching the facts in this horrible example of federal brutality is the local Sheriff at Waco, Jack Harwell, was called upon to investigate the child molestation and abuse complaints, which were made by the jealous husband of one of Davidian women who had taken up with Koresh -- and which the FBI was only too happy to exaggerate and propagate. Their effort has been eminently successful in your example.

Harwell did conduct a thorough investigation and found the complaints unfounded. He turned the matter over to the Texas Department of Social Services which also conducted its own investigation and, likewise, found that the children were healthy, happy, homeschooled and living with loving and caring parents.

end of the day, it was Koresh who made the decision to escalate, not the ATF or FBI.

You will be interested to find that a Texas court acquitted all of the Waco survivors of murder in the killing of the five BATF raiders -- because the raid was determined to be unlawful and that the Davidians had a right under Texas Penal Law to defend themselves against the armed, masked raiders. (The fact that the raid was unlawful is why the FBI was brought in to replace BATF.)

That's just for openers. You also will find that the Press was denied access to Koresh who repeatedly asked to speak with reporters, either by phone or in person. The press was isolated from the area of the stand-off at a location one mile distant. One reporter who tried to gain access was arrested. Every bit of the information you've based your judgments on was spoon-fed to the public by the feds. There is a multitude of important facts which were kept from the public.

If you take the time to research you also will find that the affidavit from which the warrant used by ATF to conduct that excessive and wholly unnecessary raid was filled with lies, distortions and erroneous charges. I'm surprised the judge who issued that warrant has not been brought to trial or demanded the arrest of the agents responsible for the affidavit. That raid was unlawful from top to bottom.

You've been duped. But like many others who seem to worship authority, you simply can't bring yourself to believe the epitome of the law-enforcement bureaucracy could be so morally corrupt. But I am personally related (through marriage) to a former FBI agent (from the New York City Field Office) who would tell you point blank that he was both ashamed and outraged by the performance of the BATF and the FBI/HRT (Hostage "Rescue" Team) which was in place at Waco. He would emphatically inform you that this unit does not represent the rank and file of FBI agents, many of whom share his feelings.

Bottom line: Nothing can justify the deaths of those 21 children. Nothing. What happened at Waco is an American disgrace.

 

[JoeB131]

There is plenty of evidence if you'd care to make an effort to find it. One place to start is a book called, Ashes of Waco, by Dick Reavis. He is a lawyer who took a personal interest in that stand-off and made a determined study of every aspect, which he details in his book and provides documentation for all of his findings -- which amount to an indictment of Bill Clinton, Janet Reno, and the federal agents who performed disgracefully at Waco. You can get this book, along with several others which are also very informative, from Amazon.

When I used to be a conservative, I listened to all that propaganda.

Now. I simply don't care. Fuck the Davidians. They could have walked out with their hands up at any time. It amazes me you Wingnuts who justify any thug cop who shoots a black child playing with a toy will go on and on about these fucked up, child-molesting, meth-dealing, gun-happy cultists who would rather burn their children alive than turn in their kiddy-diddling Messiah.

 

[JoeB131]

One of the things you can learn by researching the facts in this horrible example of federal brutality is the local Sheriff at Waco, Jack Harwell, was called upon to investigate the child molestation and abuse complaints, which were made by the jealous husband of one of Davidian women who had taken up with Koresh -- and which the FBI was only too happy to exaggerate and propagate. Their effort has been eminently successful in your example.

Michelle Jones was 12 years old when Koresh started fucking her. He fathered a total of three children on her.

Secrets of the Cult: The Messiah of Waco

Seriously, go fuck yourself.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

There's no evidence that says that there is not.

There is plenty of evidence if you'd care to make an effort to find it. One place to start is a book called, Ashes of Waco, by Dick Reavis. He is a lawyer who took a personal interest in that stand-off and made a determined study of every aspect, which he details in his book and provides documentation for all of his findings -- which amount to an indictment of Bill Clinton, Janet Reno, and the federal agents who performed disgracefully at Waco. You can get this book, along with several others which are also very informative, from Amazon.

You can also educate yourself a bit via Google research. Hopefully your mind is not closed to anything that runs counter to what you've been brainwashed to believe. Because you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

So leaving the children with a known pedophile in unsanitary and unsafe conditions until he decided to give up was a better idea?

One of the things you can learn by researching the facts in this horrible example of federal brutality is the local Sheriff at Waco, Jack Harwell, was called upon to investigate the child molestation and abuse complaints, which were made by the jealous husband of one of Davidian women who had taken up with Koresh -- and which the FBI was only too happy to exaggerate and propagate. Their effort has been eminently successful in your example.

Harwell did conduct a thorough investigation and found the complaints unfounded. He turned the matter over to the Texas Department of Social Services which also conducted its own investigation and, likewise, found that the children were healthy, happy, homeschooled and living with loving and caring parents.

end of the day, it was Koresh who made the decision to escalate, not the ATF or FBI.

You will be interested to find that a Texas court acquitted all of the Waco survivors of murder in the killing of the five BATF raiders -- because the raid was determined to be unlawful and that the Davidians had a right under Texas Penal Law to defend themselves against the armed, masked raiders. (The fact that the raid was unlawful is why the FBI was brought in to replace BATF.)

That's just for openers. You also will find that the Press was denied access to Koresh who repeatedly asked to speak with reporters, either by phone or in person. The press was isolated from the area of the stand-off at a location one mile distant. One reporter who tried to gain access was arrested. Every bit of the information you've based your judgments on was spoon-fed to the public by the feds. There is a multitude of important facts which were kept from the public.

If you take the time to research you also will find that the affidavit from which the warrant used by ATF to conduct that excessive and wholly unnecessary raid was filled with lies, distortions and erroneous charges. I'm surprised the judge who issued that warrant has not been brought to trial or demanded the arrest of the agents responsible for the affidavit. That raid was unlawful from top to bottom.

You've been duped. But like many others who seem to worship authority, you simply can't bring yourself to believe the epitome of the law-enforcement bureaucracy could be so morally corrupt. But I am personally related (through marriage) to a former FBI agent (from the New York City Field Office) who would tell you point blank that he was both ashamed and outraged by the performance of the BATF and the FBI/HRT (Hostage "Rescue" Team) which was in place at Waco. He would emphatically inform you that this unit does not represent the rank and file of FBI agents, many of whom share his feelings.

Bottom line: Nothing can justify the deaths of those 21 children. Nothing. What happened at Waco is an American disgrace.

the troll obviously wants to stay brainwashed and is too afraid to pick up the book and read it,doesnt want to see facts that dont go along with the governments version of events so he wont read it and just wants to dismiss it as propaganda. Good thing he isnt your lawyer,he would lose every case for you refusing to try and counter the evidence his opponent lawyer would present in court.

Unfortantely he is so brainwashed by the government and closed minded to how corrupt they are he seriously thinks Bin Laden and 19 muslims were behind the 9/11 attacks even though the government had failed to prove it and refuses to look at the evidence that it was an inside job.

He is so far gone brainwashed he obviously believes we live in a free country and our government is there to serve us and uphold the constitution.

He wont deal with facts that 9/11 was an inside job either.he wont read this book either since it shoots down the lies of the government and proves it indeed was an inside job.
https://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11...iracy/dp/156656686X&tag=ff0d01-20?tag=usmb-20