It's time for mandatory vaccination

[JohnDB]

So tell me what their experience was?

The media is hyping this pandemic as being so much worse than anything we have experience with, like flu.
The media is saying you can spread it for 5 days before even having any symptoms.
But I just watched a video of a epidemiologist who says that if you are not coughing or sneezing, you likely can't spread it.
So then who is right?

I know 2 people of the thousands I am familiar with, who got it.
And they did not even spread it to their immediate family members.

I live in Nashville TN... family lives in GA 90 minutes drive time away from anywhere you might have heard of.

About Half of my friends at Christmas either had either were currently having it or did have it... mostly because they were not quarantining appropriately. Most got it at family get-togethers where nobody knew (and they were being cautious) that they had been exposed by someone else who was sick but not feeling sick.

It spread like that through most of Nashville that way. Of course they were all "anti-mask" at the time. (Currently antivaxxers)

Same story happened in GA...but most of them missed the outbreak this past winter and Fall....but they currently are all sick except for two that secretly got vaccinated. (They didn't believe that Bill Gates was microchipping everyone)

Here in Nashville though one couple that had the original Covid thought that they had nothing to fear because of natural immunity...they caught the Delta Variant and are saying that it's much worse this time than last. They are dragging and have no energy and I forgot to ask about their sense of taste or smell. They are currently trying to recover...but they say that it's worse than the first time. A friend of my wife had a sister who had been vaccinated caught the Delta Variant and promptly died...she went fast...no one suspected that it would have gotten that bad especially since she had been vaccinated.

The reason why is because this virus is not a respiratory system virus like influenza. This one attacks your endocrine system. (Where all the various hormones your body uses to function are produced.... like estrogen, insulin, adrenaline and etc)
Oxygen is used when your lungs are in sepsis from an overreaction to the virus which has usually attacked your body's defense systems by this point.
At this point I'm truly worried about genetic defects for the next generation. Viruses never don't do no harm. Could end up being shrunken heads or steralizing our youth. We don't know...nor does anyone else.

But like I said earlier.... everyone thought that they were healthy. No one suspected that they were sick. Otherwise they would have self isolated....and when they did get sick they called the others they had come into contact with when they were well and told them that they were now sick.

 

[Rigby5]

The reason why is because this virus is not a respiratory system virus like influenza. This one attacks your endocrine system.

That just is not possible.
Not only is covid only a respiratory system virus, but can not live or travel in any body fluid at all.

In contrast, what we call flu is actually many different viruses, one of which is Norovirus, which only lives in the intestines.

When there are complications in other parts of the body, like the endocrine system, that is always a side effect of the immune system over reaction.
Which is the reason these mRNA vaccines are so suspect?
The last thing one would think one would want to do is to increase the immune system sensitivity when all the harm is already due to the immune system freaking out.

 

[krichton]

Dershowitz is a liar.
If you are vaccinated then you are not at risk from unvaccinated on a plane.

That would depend on your age and health. It's also possible that even young people can get infected but have no symptoms, and if you're traveling abroad, you likely won't pass a covid test and you'll be forced to be quarantined at your expense in a covid hotel for 2 weeks when your entire trip may have been for only 5 days. That's the best outcome of mixing vaccinated and unvaccinated passengers together with the variant going around.

That is just a lie.
There is no science behind the mRNA vaccines at all.
All they did was succeed in making a synthetic corona spike protein.
They have no idea what it will do, and it has killed thousands, by things like allergic reaction and by their fake corona spike traveling in the blood stream and causing the immune system to attack where ever it ends up, like the heart or brain.

The only deaths from those with covid come from the immune system over reaction, so then increasing the immune response with a vaccine is extremely risky.
And essentially no significant testing has been done, as far as long range effects.
It could be 100% fatal in the long run.

Uh...no. It has not killed thousands. That is an antivaxxer myth, like all myths created by anti vaxxers.

 

[Rigby5]

That would depend on your age and health. It's also possible that even young people can get infected but have no symptoms, and if you're traveling abroad, you likely won't pass a covid test and you'll be forced to be quarantined at your expense in a covid hotel for 2 weeks when your entire trip may have been for only 5 days. That's the best outcome of mixing vaccinated and unvaccinated passengers together with the variant going around.



Uh...no. It has not killed thousands. That is an antivaxxer myth, like all myths created by anti vaxxers.

What I have read is that if vaccinated, results of infection are minimal.
Nor is it supposed to be easy to get infected on a plane any more, after the filtration systems installed.
Even if you get infected by a plane ride, you can't test positive that quickly, so you will not end up being quarantined from the ride.
Nor any of these consequences different if no unvaccinated people are allowed on the plane.

And according to the CDC, the vaccine deaths are somewhere between 5,000 and 11.000.
The problem with the mRNA vaccines is that their fake corona spike protein can migrate, and instead of just making your arm sore, they have cause the immune system to attack the brain or heart, depending on where the fake corona spike migrates.

{...
The alarming EMA Report
On May 8 the European Medicines Agency (EMA) an agency of the European Union (EU) in charge of the evaluation and supervision of medical products, using the data base EudraVigilance which collects reports of suspected side effects of medicines including vaccines, published a report that barely warranted mention in major mainstream media. Through May 8, 2021 they had recorded 10,570 deaths and 405,259 injuries following injections of four experimental COVID-19 shots: COVID-19 mRNA VACCINE of MODERNA (CX-024414); COVID-19 mRNA VACCINE of PFIZER-BIONTECH; COVID-19 VACCINE of ASTRAZENECA (CHADOX1 NCOV-19); and Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen COVID-19 VACCINE (AD26.COV2.S).

A detailed analysis of each vaccine gives the following: The Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA gene-edited vaccine resulted in the largest fatalities– 5,368 deaths and 170,528 injuries or nearly 50% of the total for all four. The Moderna mRNA vaccine was second with 2,865 deaths and 22,985 injuries. That is to say, the only two gene manipulated mRNA experimental vaccines, Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, accounted for 8,233 deaths of the total registered deaths of 10,570. That’s 78% of all deaths from the four vaccines currently in use in the EU.

And among the serious side effects or injuries recorded by the EMA, for the two mRNA vaccines which we focus on in this article, for the Pfizer “experimental” vaccine, most reported injuries included blood and lymphatic system disorders including deaths; cardiac disorders including deaths; musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders; respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders, and vascular disorders. For the Moderna mRNA vaccine, most serious injuries or causes of death included blood and lymphatic system disorders; cardiac disorders; musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders; disorders of the central nervous system.

Note that these are only the most serious injuries related to those two genetically manipulated mRNA vaccines. The EMA also notes that it is believed that only a small percent of actual vaccine deaths or serious side effects, perhaps only 1% to 10%, are reported for various reasons. Officially more than 10,000 persons have died after receiving the coronavirus vaccines since January, 2021 in the EU. That is a horrifying number of vaccine-related deaths, even if the true numbers are far greater.
CDC as well
Even the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) a notoriously political and corrupt agency with for-profit ties to vaccine makers, in its official Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), shows a total of 193,000 “adverse events” including 4,057 deaths, 2,475 permanent disabilities, 25,603 emergency room visits, and 11,572 hospitalizations following COVID-19 injections between December 14, 2020 and May 14, 2021. That included the two mRNA vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, and the far less prevalent J&J Janssen vaccine. Of the reported deaths, 38% occurred in people who became ill within 48 hours of being vaccinated. The official US vaccine-related death toll is greater in just 5 months than all the vaccine-related deaths from the past 20 years combined. Yet the major media worldwide and the US Government virtually bury the alarming facts.
...}

Alarming Casualty Rates for mRNA Vaccines Warrant Urgent Action | New Eastern Outlook

As official government data is emerging in Europe and the USA on the alarming numbers of deaths and permanent paralysis as well as other severe side effects from the experimental mRNA vaccines, it is becoming clear that we are being asked to be human guinea pigs in an experiment that could alter...

journal-neo.org

 

[JohnDB]

That just is not possible.
Not only is covid only a respiratory system virus, but can not live or travel in any body fluid at all.

In contrast, what we call flu is actually many different viruses, one of which is Norovirus, which only lives in the intestines.

When there are complications in other parts of the body, like the endocrine system, that is always a side effect of the immune system over reaction.
Which is the reason these mRNA vaccines are so suspect?
The last thing one would think one would want to do is to increase the immune system sensitivity when all the harm is already due to the immune system freaking out.

WOW...
Try your statements with any doctor or Nurse...
I'm wondering how you have avoided learning anything accurate about this virus with as much information that has been published everywhere. I'm truly shocked with how much you don't know and got wrong.

 

[Rigby5]

WOW...
Try your statements with any doctor or Nurse...
I'm wondering how you have avoided learning anything accurate about this virus with as much information that has been published everywhere. I'm truly shocked with how much you don't know and got wrong.

Wrong.
Everything I said was correct.
According to you, the covid virus can live in bodily fluids.
That means blood would be contaminated, and a person infected would be a risk to blood banks.
But they obviously are not.

{...
COVID-19 is primarily a respiratory virus, with potential to infect the digestive system as well. People can get infected when they inhale or ingest the virus, but not via a blood transfusion.

“There is absolutely no evidence of transfusion transmission for COVID-19, or any other coronavirus,” says Dr. Steven Drews, associate director of microbiology at Canadian Blood Services. “This family of respiratory viruses just doesn’t appear to be transfusion-transmitted.”

This also applies to other coronaviruses such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS), and the unrelated influenza viruses.
...}

Can I get COVID-19 from a blood transfusion?

COVID-19 is primarily a respiratory virus, people can get infected when they inhale or ingest the virus, but not via a blood transfusion

www.blood.ca

There is no way for covid to survive or travel through the bloodstream in any way at all.
It can not get to or survive in the endrocrine system.
What can and does happen, is that the immune system over reactions harms the lungs and releases thousands of tiny blood clots that harm all parts of the body. But it is the immune system over reaction doing that, not the virus.

 

[Synthaholic]

Republicans used to be Americans first.

 

[krichton]

What I have read is that if vaccinated, results of infection are minimal.
Nor is it supposed to be easy to get infected on a plane any more, after the filtration systems installed.
Even if you get infected by a plane ride, you can't test positive that quickly, so you will not end up being quarantined from the ride.
Nor any of these consequences different if no unvaccinated people are allowed on the plane.

And according to the CDC, the vaccine deaths are somewhere between 5,000 and 11.000.
The problem with the mRNA vaccines is that their fake corona spike protein can migrate, and instead of just making your arm sore, they have cause the immune system to attack the brain or heart, depending on where the fake corona spike migrates.

{...
The alarming EMA Report
On May 8 the European Medicines Agency (EMA) an agency of the European Union (EU) in charge of the evaluation and supervision of medical products, using the data base EudraVigilance which collects reports of suspected side effects of medicines including vaccines, published a report that barely warranted mention in major mainstream media. Through May 8, 2021 they had recorded 10,570 deaths and 405,259 injuries following injections of four experimental COVID-19 shots: COVID-19 mRNA VACCINE of MODERNA (CX-024414); COVID-19 mRNA VACCINE of PFIZER-BIONTECH; COVID-19 VACCINE of ASTRAZENECA (CHADOX1 NCOV-19); and Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen COVID-19 VACCINE (AD26.COV2.S).

A detailed analysis of each vaccine gives the following: The Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA gene-edited vaccine resulted in the largest fatalities– 5,368 deaths and 170,528 injuries or nearly 50% of the total for all four. The Moderna mRNA vaccine was second with 2,865 deaths and 22,985 injuries. That is to say, the only two gene manipulated mRNA experimental vaccines, Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, accounted for 8,233 deaths of the total registered deaths of 10,570. That’s 78% of all deaths from the four vaccines currently in use in the EU.

And among the serious side effects or injuries recorded by the EMA, for the two mRNA vaccines which we focus on in this article, for the Pfizer “experimental” vaccine, most reported injuries included blood and lymphatic system disorders including deaths; cardiac disorders including deaths; musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders; respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders, and vascular disorders. For the Moderna mRNA vaccine, most serious injuries or causes of death included blood and lymphatic system disorders; cardiac disorders; musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders; disorders of the central nervous system.

Note that these are only the most serious injuries related to those two genetically manipulated mRNA vaccines. The EMA also notes that it is believed that only a small percent of actual vaccine deaths or serious side effects, perhaps only 1% to 10%, are reported for various reasons. Officially more than 10,000 persons have died after receiving the coronavirus vaccines since January, 2021 in the EU. That is a horrifying number of vaccine-related deaths, even if the true numbers are far greater.
CDC as well
Even the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) a notoriously political and corrupt agency with for-profit ties to vaccine makers, in its official Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), shows a total of 193,000 “adverse events” including 4,057 deaths, 2,475 permanent disabilities, 25,603 emergency room visits, and 11,572 hospitalizations following COVID-19 injections between December 14, 2020 and May 14, 2021. That included the two mRNA vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, and the far less prevalent J&J Janssen vaccine. Of the reported deaths, 38% occurred in people who became ill within 48 hours of being vaccinated. The official US vaccine-related death toll is greater in just 5 months than all the vaccine-related deaths from the past 20 years combined. Yet the major media worldwide and the US Government virtually bury the alarming facts.
...}

Alarming Casualty Rates for mRNA Vaccines Warrant Urgent Action | New Eastern Outlook

As official government data is emerging in Europe and the USA on the alarming numbers of deaths and permanent paralysis as well as other severe side effects from the experimental mRNA vaccines, it is becoming clear that we are being asked to be human guinea pigs in an experiment that could alter...

journal-neo.org

Every study done on that was with the wild type and not delta and that was months ago. Who knows if you can contract it now or not.

No. VAERS recorded over 6,000 deaths, but that doesn't mean it was caused by the vaccine. A person dying a couple of weeks to a month later for whatever reason in no way establishes a link that the vaccine somehow caused it. This is your usual antivax propaganda.

New Eastern Outlook is a russian disinformation website. I'm not shocked that you would link it here considering where you get all your information from.

 

[Rigby5]

Republicans used to be Americans first.

Except we were ignorant.
Social distancing and "flattening the curve" is extremely ignorant.
It does not reduce the epidemic but instead prevents herd immunity and greatly increases the over all spread and death count, by keeping the epidemic alive indefinitely.
There are several good ways to attack an epidemic, and they are all very fast.
None of them is slow.
Slow is bad.
When you "flatten the curve", all you are doing is slowing it down, which is the single worst possible thing to do.
Absolutely anything or nothing is better than "flattening the curve".

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[Rigby5]

Every study done on that was with the wild type and not delta and that was months ago. Who knows if you can contract it now or not.

No. VAERS recorded over 6,000 deaths, but that doesn't mean it was caused by the vaccine. A person dying a couple of weeks to a month later for whatever reason in no way establishes a link that the vaccine somehow caused it. This is your usual antivax propaganda.

New Eastern Outlook is a russian disinformation website. I'm not shocked that you would link it here considering where you get all your information from.

Yes variants could change its behavior a little, but very little.
Variants are not mutations like they are saying.
Mutations are random damage, like from radiation, and are only viable on the order of every million years or so.
That is not where variants come from.
There are 2 main probabilities.
One is that variants were always there, but natural selection is giving them the reproduction edge so we notice them more.
Two is that they are actually more like a hybred, after 2 or more virus deposit their RNA into the same host cell nucleus.

VAERS is up to 11,000 raw vaccine deaths now. But the risk is not instantaneous deaths, but future ones that have not even happened yet, like with Thalidomide.
Using the same corona protein spike in the vaccine means the vaccine is also using the same protein spike as our own exosomes, and that is incredibly high risk in the future. There is the possibility that in the future, anyone who took the mRNA vaccines will be killed by it.
Already thousands have been killed when the vaccine spike migrates from the arm muscle to the heart muscle or the brain.

 

[ClaireH]

This is quite futile to recommend a vaccine (well not really a vaccine but that’s another story) that doesn’t prevent Delta. Please save it about “reducing severity of illness”- I’m waiting for confirmation of that part outside of CDC’s tracking, particularly after learning that only 1 to 1.5% of breakthrough viruses are occurring when the national media outlets have been festering fear about it being a much greater occurrence. Do you realize that the vaccine that you’re telling everyone to get will not squat for the lambda variant once that gets here? I’m not buying into that yet that it’s reducing severity with the Delta but maybe there’s truth in that. Since I was recently fooled about the other issue I’m just waiting for confirmation as I stated. It explains why various drug companies will distribute booster shots for all takers because they know this initial go round will do nothing against the variants that we’ve yet to experience.

Follow the science not the people economically motivated for this to never end, and definitely not the “guidance” of the corrupt, self-serving heads of CDC. CDC’s deliberate decision to delay US testing by demanding to make “their own test kits” and not except those already in circulation globally delaying over 3 weeks of effective response time. When the passengers and crew of the Princess cruise ship were released after defective test kits were utilized and deemed as “safe to unboard” when they were in fact infected it’s on CDC that was allowed that to happen. Where are the national news articles about that fact? Pretty hard to trust an organization that does that kind of stuff.

 

[ClaireH]

Yes variants could change its behavior a little, but very little.
Variants are not mutations like they are saying.
Mutations are random damage, like from radiation, and are only viable on the order of every million years or so.
That is not where variants come from.
There are 2 main probabilities.
One is that variants were always there, but natural selection is giving them the reproduction edge so we notice them more.
Two is that they are actually more like a hybred, after 2 or more virus deposit their RNA into the same host cell nucleus.

VAERS is up to 11,000 raw vaccine deaths now. But the risk is not instantaneous deaths, but future ones that have not even happened yet, like with Thalidomide.
Using the same corona protein spike in the vaccine means the vaccine is also using the same protein spike as our own exosomes, and that is incredibly high risk in the future. There is the possibility that in the future, anyone who took the mRNA vaccines will be killed by it.
Already thousands have been killed when the vaccine spike migrates from the arm muscle to the heart muscle or the brain.

What do you think about China’s military temporarily stationed along the Chinese/India border (reportedly, this is not a normal occurrence) prior to the Delta virus first been detected in India?

 

[Rigby5]

What do you think about China’s military temporarily stationed along the Chinese/India border (reportedly, this is not a normal occurrence) prior to the Delta virus first been detected in India?

Good point in that China apparently is very worried about the Delta variant coming in from India.

 

[ClaireH]

Good point in that China apparently is very worried about the Delta variant coming in from India.

At this point in time, I don’t think it’s clear when the Chinese military was at the border as in days before, week before and when the actual Delta variant initiated. I hope everybody’s closely watching main water sources is all I know… feel free to paint me suspicious.

 

[Juicin]

Just like having to prove your age to buy liquor you should have to prove your vaccination before being allowed into any public gathering.

The narrative collapsing so fast

hahah

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[Synthaholic]

Passengers next!

 

[gipper]

Passengers next!

Big pharma probably bought off the ceo and board of directors. Or maybe they blackmailed them.

 

[Synthaholic]

Good! Get rid of all of these fucks.