It’s Time for an Outright Ban on the Promotion of Atheism.

[Winco]

in secret, just as they are already doing trying to convert them into transgender identities and see how they like it!

This ^^^^^ is why I despise you.
You fucking liar.
You racist POS.
All you do daily is spread White Power.

 

[AsherN]

We may disagree here. "Modern" perspectives and commentaries became the vogue in too many places. I found better understanding and logic from those who researched the original meaning/intent of the original authors to their original audience.

And yet much of Xtianity relies on mistranslation and misinterpretation of Jewish text to justify Jesus.

 

[Meriweather]

And yet much of Xtianity relies on mistranslation and misinterpretation of Jewish text to justify Jesus.

The Catholic Study Bible (1990) did begin including Hebrew/Jewish interpretations. Those interested could then include rabbinical commentary. It is a long, intense study and misinterpretation can work both ways. Jesus does not need justified. Jews should be proud to include him in their history because he lived at a time when the high priests were cozier with the Romans than they were with their own people/culture.

I understand Jews can never see Jesus as One with God, but they should be able to see him as one of the most courageous Jews of his time.

Matthew has always been a problem for the Jews because Matthew used Jewish history as a foreshadowing for his own story. As a literary format, it is outstanding, and the Jews in his own day could relate to Matthew using their own history to tell the story of Jesus. Jesus' life was lifted from Hebrew history. Quotes weren't intended to be exact, only to remind Jews of their own history being lived in current times. Foreshadowing...a parallel...a great literary device--a biography wrapped in an embodiment of Jewish history.

 

[Stann]

We may disagree here. "Modern" perspectives and commentaries became the vogue in too many places. I found better understanding and logic from those who researched the original meaning/intent of the original authors to their original audience.

Of course, it was geared towards their mentality of that age. That's why it's inconsistent with today's population.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Jews should be proud to include him in their history because he lived at a time when the high priests were cozier with the Romans than they were with their own people/culture.

And historically if they disagreed well there's that Inquisition Thing to help you get your head straight. Good times right?

Inquisition

The Inquisition was a powerful office set up within the Catholic Church to root out and punish heresy throughout Europe and the Americas. Beginning in the 12th

www.history.com

 

[Meriweather]

And historically if they disagreed well there's that Inquisition Thing to help you get your head straight. Good times right?

The good times in the rest of Europe were the people requesting a hearing/inquisition from the church when secular authorities accused them of heresy, then a crime against the state. Why? For the most part, The Church was considered much more lenient that secular hearings.

Then came the Spanish Inquisition

Tomás de Torquemada
Ferdinand and Isabella
Conversos/Marranos
Muslims
Pope Sixtus and Pope Innocent
The inquisition in Spain controlled by Spanish authorities. Why?

As always, it boiled down to power, wealth, land. Popes Sixtus and Innocent complained about how Spanish authorities were handling their Inquisitions. Unfortunately for later generations of Catholics, one Catholic Friar, Tomás de Torquemada had the ear of Ferdinand and Isabella (had arranged their marriage) with an eye for two regions to unite and defeat Muslim invasions.

Meanwhile, an earlier forced conversion of Jews who became successful and wealthy Christians (and who now held positions of power) had to be ostracized to make room for those who came from older Christian families. So they were accused of being Jewish spies.

Friar Tomás de Torquemada had his hand in all of this. Naturally, Ferdinand and Isabella appointed him the Grand Inquisitor and despite the complaints from Rome, managed to become the man who was responsible for the most Inquisition deaths, possibly more than all other Inquisitions in Europe combined.

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[Stann]

Not a bad idea. Let's start indoctrinating all the children at school to become christian behind their parent's backs no matter what they say or wish, in secret, just as they are already doing trying to convert them into transgender identities and see how they like it! Think they might mind?

Freak is the right word for you. No one is trying to convert children into transgenders. Sex education classes offer all the children so any that may be transgendered are included in the discussion on transgender so they feel they are not alone, they are not sinners or criminals. Everyone needs support. Children can be very cruel to other children that aren't quite like them.

 

[Blues Man]

Did you forget atheist regimes murdered 150 million in the last century; more than all religions combined in the history of the world? But the other thing is practicing Christians don't murder at all. Sometimes, they've had to protect their loved ones, however.

Christians don't murder at all

That's a complete lie

The Inquisition, the Crusades, the Salem witch trials since most people in the US say they are Christian then we can safely assume that most murderers are also Christians.

You people are no better than anyone else.

 

[Blues Man]

Anytime you see a billboard or an article promoting abortion, you're seeing the atheist agenda being advertised. That's why I would completely ban all atheist messages and agenda promotion.

I never once saw a billboard promoting abortion.

 

[Votto]

A well-received thread?? LMAO!! Both liberals and conservatives soundly blasted the premise. If there were any people supporting the notion that we should declare the US a Christian nation, they were few and far between.

And no, we will not be banning atheism or people who promote it.

Can you call the US a Christian nation when they have aborted 50 million plus unborn children?

Can you call the US a Christian nation as they help toddlers transition into another sex?

Can you call the US a Christian nation when when close to 200 people a day die of narcotic overdoses?

Can you call the US a Christian nation when it is led by a political party that is promoting Leftism and destroying a nation they say has a horrible Christian influenced past?

Leftism is the religion of the US, and it is endorsed by the state and all because they don't believe in God, so they are free to impose themselves on the rest of us while belittling our past while ignoring the mess they have made of society.

 

[Meriweather]

Can you call the US a Christian nation

Christian nation, perhaps. Christian government, no.

 

[toobfreak]

Freak is the right word for you.

Why is that?

No one is trying to convert children into transgenders.

Odd, I've seen DIRECT CONFIRMATION of that very thing, DOZENS of times here alone.

Sex education classes offer all the children so any that may be transgendered are included in the discussion on transgender so they feel they are not alone,

Ever meet a transgender 1st grader? I haven't neither. At that age, kids don't even understand gender much less that they are somehow a different gender from the one they are, asshole. Sex education has no place at so young an age much less about genders that don't even exist, as it is impossible to biologically "change" your gender, idiot, much less, by simple surgery and a few drugs. Seems any nitwit should understand that much, but I guess that leaves you out.

they are not sinners or criminals.

No, not the children, the assholes like you trying to convince little boys they are really girls. That's sick and perverted.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

We may disagree here. "Modern" perspectives and commentaries became the vogue in too many places. I found better understanding and logic from those who researched the original meaning/intent of the original authors to their original audience.

The "Original Intent" of the Constitution Was to Establish Tyranny by the 1%

The original intent was secular. The Hebrew Patriarchs wanted a stable society, which Gayism, for example, would corrupt and destroy. So they ordained divine rewards and punishments to reinforce the effect of their wise logic about survival and success.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Christians don't murder at all

That's a complete lie

The Inquisition, the Crusades, the Salem witch trials since most people in the US say they are Christian then we can safely assume that most murderers are also Christians.

You people are no better than anyone else.

Cowardice Posing As Corrected History

The Islamic mass-murder at the World Trade Center should have made us realize that the Crusaders bought time for Europe to get back on its Classical Period track. Otherwise, the whole world would have reverted to a permanent Dark Ages theocracy.

Those who include the glorious sacrifice of the Crusaders in their list of crimes, including backward Protestants who yap that it was all a Catholic atrocity, are all unAmerican Chickenhawk traitors who should have accompanied the Obamanable Snow-Job Man on his Apology Tour.

 

[Stann]

Anytime you see a billboard or an article promoting abortion, you're seeing the atheist agenda being advertised. That's why I would completely ban all atheist messages and agenda promotion.

Here in Nebraska I've seen billboards promoting motherhood. I've never seen a billboard promoting abortion. That would be in poor taste. But you might see a billboard promoting a woman's right to choose.

 

[Stann]

So do you believe any censorship of pornography is also "just another type of dictatorship".

Some things do irreparable harm to people. Pornography is one. Atheism is another.

Since the child porn that you brought up is already illegal, the production of it should also be illegal. Adult pornography is a different matter, that is entertainment for adults. Like everything in life, it can be overdone and cause problems, particularly addiction. Smoking tobacco, alcohol, drugs, guns, clothes, shoes, food, television, the list of things is in this that people can get addicted to. It's up to the individual to control themselves. We are all adults here.

 

[AsherN]

The Catholic Study Bible (1990) did begin including Hebrew/Jewish interpretations. Those interested could then include rabbinical commentary. It is a long, intense study and misinterpretation can work both ways. Jesus does not need justified. Jews should be proud to include him in their history because he lived at a time when the high priests were cozier with the Romans than they were with their own people/culture.

I understand Jews can never see Jesus as One with God, but they should be able to see him as one of the most courageous Jews of his time.

Matthew has always been a problem for the Jews because Matthew used Jewish history as a foreshadowing for his own story. As a literary format, it is outstanding, and the Jews in his own day could relate to Matthew using their own history to tell the story of Jesus. Jesus' life was lifted from Hebrew history. Quotes weren't intended to be exact, only to remind Jews of their own history being lived in current times. Foreshadowing...a parallel...a great literary device--a biography wrapped in an embodiment of Jewish history.

Talking more about the misquoting and misinterpretation of text, especially Prophets. prophets were more like todays pundits. They were not foreshadowing hundreds of year in the future, but more immediate consequences for todays actions.

As for the Jewish view of Jesús, it's mostly a he may or may not have existed, but if he did he was trying to make changes to the corruption of the time. He was born, lived and died a Jew. The whole new religion thing came much later.

 

[Meriweather]

Talking more about the misquoting and misinterpretation of text, especially Prophets. prophets were more like todays pundits. They were not foreshadowing hundreds of year in the future, but more immediate consequences for todays actions.

Correct.

 

[Meriweather]

As for the Jewish view of Jesús, it's mostly a he may or may not have existed, but if he did he was trying to make changes to the corruption of the time. He was born, lived and died a Jew. The whole new religion thing came much later.

Jesus did have a message that some of the religious leaders of his time took issue with. He proclaimed sins are forgiven and some religious leaders at that time said he had no authority to say this. Jesus said his authority came from God, and he was challenged to prove it.

 

[AsherN]

Jesus did have a message that some of the religious leaders of his time took issue with. He proclaimed sins are forgiven and some religious leaders at that time said he had no authority to say this. Jesus said his authority came from God, and he was challenged to prove it.

They were correct. We have mechanism for forgiveness of "sins", most usually translated as transgressions. You must seek forgiveness from the people you have wronged from them. And transgressions against God is between you and God.