It's Teachers Day

[Unkotare]

I preferred Fluffernutters myself. I meant a comparably wholesome and hot meal.

There is nothing unwholesome about a sandwich

Generations of people have eaten sandwiches for lunch every day and they survived just fine

I know that. Again, I was comparing it to a wholesome hot meal including vitamin rich fruits and vegetables, rib sticking carbs and some protein.

So a turkey on whole wheat with lettuce and tomato and an apple I would say a brownie of a couple home made chocolate chip cookies but the kid would probably be kicked out of school for that kind of contraband

As I said millions of people eat a sandwich for lunch every day and have been doing so for generations and did just fine.

We eat too much in this country anyway

Why are we arguing about this? I forget.

You said it was too expensive for parents to make lunch for their kids

Some kids don’t have anyone to make them lunch.

 

[Blues Man]

There is nothing unwholesome about a sandwich

Generations of people have eaten sandwiches for lunch every day and they survived just fine

I know that. Again, I was comparing it to a wholesome hot meal including vitamin rich fruits and vegetables, rib sticking carbs and some protein.

So a turkey on whole wheat with lettuce and tomato and an apple I would say a brownie of a couple home made chocolate chip cookies but the kid would probably be kicked out of school for that kind of contraband

As I said millions of people eat a sandwich for lunch every day and have been doing so for generations and did just fine.

We eat too much in this country anyway

Why are we arguing about this? I forget.

You said it was too expensive for parents to make lunch for their kids

Some kids don’t have anyone to make them lunch.

I know i was one of those kids. I learned to make my own lunch and some days I didn't eat lunch.

I survived.

 

[bodecea]

So you think YOU are special for being self-employed and therefore happy with your job?

Where did I say I was happy with my job?

And unlike you I know there is nothing special about me.

I'm just your average guy who worked to pay his bills for decades and I didn't love my job more than anyone else.

I get all my income now from property rentals and believe me when I tell you I hate being a landlord

Why do you hate being a landlord?

This guy sums it up pretty well

Being A Landlord Tests My Faith In Humanity

So..as a Landlord, can't you control the people who rent from you? Just make them behave and do what you want them to do.

They are not my children

You can't even get adults to do the right thing as your tenants and you get to hand pick them.....and yet you expect teachers to take anywhere from 25 - 200 students (depending if Elementary or High School) and get them to learn and remember everything taught them or else it's the teacher's fault.

 

[Blues Man]

Where did I say I was happy with my job?

And unlike you I know there is nothing special about me.

I'm just your average guy who worked to pay his bills for decades and I didn't love my job more than anyone else.

I get all my income now from property rentals and believe me when I tell you I hate being a landlord

Why do you hate being a landlord?

This guy sums it up pretty well

Being A Landlord Tests My Faith In Humanity

So..as a Landlord, can't you control the people who rent from you? Just make them behave and do what you want them to do.

They are not my children

You can't even get adults to do the right thing as your tenants and you get to hand pick them.....and yet you expect teachers to take anywhere from 25 - 200 students (depending if Elementary or High School) and get them to learn and remember everything taught them or else it's the teacher's fault.

Where did I ever say anything about any of that

All I said was teachers are like any other professionals that don't love their jobs
And FYI I don't hand pick my tenants I have a real estate agent do all the screening and credit checks for me,
I currently rent 30 units consisting of apartments and retail space

And I still get people who are deadbeats.

Just like any other person who rents properties does

 

[OldLady]

I preferred Fluffernutters myself. I meant a comparably wholesome and hot meal.

There is nothing unwholesome about a sandwich

Generations of people have eaten sandwiches for lunch every day and they survived just fine

I know that. Again, I was comparing it to a wholesome hot meal including vitamin rich fruits and vegetables, rib sticking carbs and some protein.

So a turkey on whole wheat with lettuce and tomato and an apple I would say a brownie of a couple home made chocolate chip cookies but the kid would probably be kicked out of school for that kind of contraband

As I said millions of people eat a sandwich for lunch every day and have been doing so for generations and did just fine.

We eat too much in this country anyway

Why are we arguing about this? I forget.

You said it was too expensive for parents to make lunch for their kids

Pretty sure I said it was AS expensive. If you go whole hog, yeah, it could be more.
I looked up school lunch prices in Maine and in SanFrancisco, and they're just about the same, so it must be a federal funding formula. $3 for lunch, $1.50 for breakfast. That's $4.50 p/day, $22.50 a week, per child.
To send a decent bag lunch your kid will eat for five days, the groceries will cost you close to that. The free and reduced lunch formulas are quite generous, so quite a few families can get a break.

I'm sorry you didn't have anyone to make your lunch, btw.

 

[Unkotare]

There is nothing unwholesome about a sandwich

Generations of people have eaten sandwiches for lunch every day and they survived just fine

I know that. Again, I was comparing it to a wholesome hot meal including vitamin rich fruits and vegetables, rib sticking carbs and some protein.

So a turkey on whole wheat with lettuce and tomato and an apple I would say a brownie of a couple home made chocolate chip cookies but the kid would probably be kicked out of school for that kind of contraband

As I said millions of people eat a sandwich for lunch every day and have been doing so for generations and did just fine.

We eat too much in this country anyway

Why are we arguing about this? I forget.

You said it was too expensive for parents to make lunch for their kids

Some kids don’t have anyone to make them lunch.

Three days last week I didn’t have lunch because I gave mine to students who didn’t have anything to eat at home.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I'm tring to remember what lunch food was like at school, I only went to public school for a few years. And even then, it was pretty much suburbia, there wereonly like 300 kids in the whole school. I think it was pretty good, if I recall correctly. It was in the eighties.

 

[Erinwltr]

You're like a hammer and everything is a nail. You have your orthodoxy here and nothing is going to break it. Makes you stupid on this topic. So shut up

Meanwhile Millennials can’t even read a map, analogue clock, cursive handwriting, balance a checkbook, use a keyboard properly, etc etc...

So? You can't spell "analog". How stupid are you?

Auto spell by a software engineer with a PhD. But you know that. You’re so desperate to score points you go after spelling and grammar.

I’M A GUILTY, PUBLICLY EDUCATED WALKING ENGLISH MASS MURDERER!!

Nope, just a jackass. It wasn't enough to pollute one education thread but you had to go after this one as well.

How dare someone not bow and worship the teachers of stupidity! ALL HEIL!!!!

"And whose Mrs. Krikorian are you?"
Did you even bother to answer the OPs question in both threads that you so ineloquently Trump Troll Bombed? I will if you do.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I liked this op ed in my local paper this morning; it sort of gets to the heart of what a good teacher can do. Hope you all had at least one Mrs. Krikorian.
* * * * * * * * * * * *

Be sure to thank a teacher this week
George Danby | BDN
By Todd R. Nelson, Opinion guest contributor • May 6, 2019 9:58 am

For many of my teaching years, I’ve carried a poem by Sharon Olds in my heart. Every day, in every school, I saw examples of the fulfillment of its ancient history and prophecy of the future. “Mrs. Krikorian,” the teacher who was an “amiable giantess with the kind eyes” begins:

She saved me. When I arrived in sixth grade,
a known criminal, the new teacher
asked me to stay after school the first day, she said
I’ve heard about you. She was a tall woman,
with a deep crevice between her breasts,
and a large, calm nose. She said,
This is a special library pass.
As soon as you finish your hour’s work —
That hour’s work that took ten minutes
and then the devil glanced into the room
and found me empty, a house standing open —
you can go to the library.

Who was your Mrs. Krikorian? Can you hear the voice of your past teacher who took you in? Who looked past your rap sheet and outward appearances, who touched your potential with a knowing look or kind word? Who was the gentle giant or giantess in your life; who gave you extra time in the library?

I remember mine by their tone of voice. Mrs. Tapley, Mr. Williamson and Mr. Stevens all had a kind of perfect pitch, a resonant voice, stature and bearing. The effect of their pedagogy and curriculum still appears in my adult writing, my math skills, spelling or geographical literacy. Long division still confounds me, through no fault of Miss McCormack. I have a good working knowledge of the Earth’s surficial features. I can spell pretty well.

But what I learned from them is not the most important memory — and a clue as to what matters in schools. Their attitude and feeling toward me and toward their academic subject created the expectation for learning, a deep sense of aspiration. That’s a supreme educational standard.

Good teachers make children feel cared for, understood, challenged and appreciated. Of course, we also remember their moments of righteous indignation, mock ire and appropriately-timed withering glances! I can still hear Mr. Stevens, my fourth-grade teacher, scolding Vicki for making a sixth trip to the pencil sharpener to drop yet another note on Caroline’s desk. I do not remember his lesson, per se. Nor would Vicki, but surely she too can remember his tone. Its value was the true lesson.

By their tone, I knew my teachers were powerful, or not; knowledgeable, or faking it; sincere, or going through the motions. Looking back, I know that learning occurred most spontaneously, deeply, and lastingly for me when their tone synced with my developmental timing — and allowances were made for the unique tenor of any given day. It was then that I allowed myself to be taught — or conspired with my teachers to learn in spite of myself.

This is the fundamental transaction of good schools as well as authentic teachers: creating an atmosphere in which students learn because their teachers know them intimately, have their trust and ingeniously adapt information and skills.

It is my humble hope to think that I have affected a few of these transactions as a teacher and administrator. I can be certain of precipitating a few individual breakthroughs (“So that’s what this poem means!”); confident of training young writers in some key skills (with help from E.B. White); and hopeful that I’ve recruited, hired and supported teachers with a gift for getting the tone right. It would be my tribute to Mr. Stevens to think that I had, in fact, struck the right tone for just a few of my students and colleagues, just as he did for me. It’s my standard for even considering myself a teacher.

And whose Mrs. Krikorian are you?


Todd R. Nelson is a retired teacher and school principal in Penobscot. May 7 is Teacher Appreciation Day.

It's too bad that most teachers today aren't worth spit and do more damage by playing at social engineering rather than doing their jobs and teaching. I guess they are more concerned with their unions and keeping themselves in comfort than doing their jobs. Sure there are exceptions but those are far too rare and far between.
We would do well to get rid of public education as we know it and let the free market sort them out. I have a sneaking suspicion that if mom and or dad had to sit down and write out a check every month for Jonny and Susie to go to school they might actually give a shit about getting their moneys worth.

You have a very appropriate name. The stupidity displayed in that post indicates that you were never educated. You also know nothing about what teachers do or what their life is like. Why do you speak about things you do not know or understand?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why do you hate being a landlord?

This guy sums it up pretty well

Being A Landlord Tests My Faith In Humanity

So..as a Landlord, can't you control the people who rent from you? Just make them behave and do what you want them to do.

They are not my children

You can't even get adults to do the right thing as your tenants and you get to hand pick them.....and yet you expect teachers to take anywhere from 25 - 200 students (depending if Elementary or High School) and get them to learn and remember everything taught them or else it's the teacher's fault.

Where did I ever say anything about any of that

All I said was teachers are like any other professionals that don't love their jobs
And FYI I don't hand pick my tenants I have a real estate agent do all the screening and credit checks for me,
I currently rent 30 units consisting of apartments and retail space

And I still get people who are deadbeats.

Just like any other person who rents properties does

Apparently, the fault is all yours. Stop bitching about your own problems to others who do not share your propensity to avoid responsibility.

 

[Erinwltr]

I liked this op ed in my local paper this morning; it sort of gets to the heart of what a good teacher can do. Hope you all had at least one Mrs. Krikorian.
* * * * * * * * * * * *

Be sure to thank a teacher this week
George Danby | BDN
By Todd R. Nelson, Opinion guest contributor • May 6, 2019 9:58 am

For many of my teaching years, I’ve carried a poem by Sharon Olds in my heart. Every day, in every school, I saw examples of the fulfillment of its ancient history and prophecy of the future. “Mrs. Krikorian,” the teacher who was an “amiable giantess with the kind eyes” begins:

She saved me. When I arrived in sixth grade,
a known criminal, the new teacher
asked me to stay after school the first day, she said
I’ve heard about you. She was a tall woman,
with a deep crevice between her breasts,
and a large, calm nose. She said,
This is a special library pass.
As soon as you finish your hour’s work —
That hour’s work that took ten minutes
and then the devil glanced into the room
and found me empty, a house standing open —
you can go to the library.

Who was your Mrs. Krikorian? Can you hear the voice of your past teacher who took you in? Who looked past your rap sheet and outward appearances, who touched your potential with a knowing look or kind word? Who was the gentle giant or giantess in your life; who gave you extra time in the library?

I remember mine by their tone of voice. Mrs. Tapley, Mr. Williamson and Mr. Stevens all had a kind of perfect pitch, a resonant voice, stature and bearing. The effect of their pedagogy and curriculum still appears in my adult writing, my math skills, spelling or geographical literacy. Long division still confounds me, through no fault of Miss McCormack. I have a good working knowledge of the Earth’s surficial features. I can spell pretty well.

But what I learned from them is not the most important memory — and a clue as to what matters in schools. Their attitude and feeling toward me and toward their academic subject created the expectation for learning, a deep sense of aspiration. That’s a supreme educational standard.

Good teachers make children feel cared for, understood, challenged and appreciated. Of course, we also remember their moments of righteous indignation, mock ire and appropriately-timed withering glances! I can still hear Mr. Stevens, my fourth-grade teacher, scolding Vicki for making a sixth trip to the pencil sharpener to drop yet another note on Caroline’s desk. I do not remember his lesson, per se. Nor would Vicki, but surely she too can remember his tone. Its value was the true lesson.

By their tone, I knew my teachers were powerful, or not; knowledgeable, or faking it; sincere, or going through the motions. Looking back, I know that learning occurred most spontaneously, deeply, and lastingly for me when their tone synced with my developmental timing — and allowances were made for the unique tenor of any given day. It was then that I allowed myself to be taught — or conspired with my teachers to learn in spite of myself.

This is the fundamental transaction of good schools as well as authentic teachers: creating an atmosphere in which students learn because their teachers know them intimately, have their trust and ingeniously adapt information and skills.

It is my humble hope to think that I have affected a few of these transactions as a teacher and administrator. I can be certain of precipitating a few individual breakthroughs (“So that’s what this poem means!”); confident of training young writers in some key skills (with help from E.B. White); and hopeful that I’ve recruited, hired and supported teachers with a gift for getting the tone right. It would be my tribute to Mr. Stevens to think that I had, in fact, struck the right tone for just a few of my students and colleagues, just as he did for me. It’s my standard for even considering myself a teacher.

And whose Mrs. Krikorian are you?


Todd R. Nelson is a retired teacher and school principal in Penobscot. May 7 is Teacher Appreciation Day.

It's too bad that most teachers today aren't worth spit and do more damage by playing at social engineering rather than doing their jobs and teaching. I guess they are more concerned with their unions and keeping themselves in comfort than doing their jobs. Sure there are exceptions but those are far too rare and far between.
We would do well to get rid of public education as we know it and let the free market sort them out. I have a sneaking suspicion that if mom and or dad had to sit down and write out a check every month for Jonny and Susie to go to school they might actually give a shit about getting their moneys worth.

Sock Alert Folks!
A simplistic opinion. If not down right dazed.
"most teachers today"
"I guess they are more concerned"
"Sure there are exceptions"
"We would do well"
"I have a sneaking suspicion"

I admit tending to posting anecdotally, but this is just pure Hannity, urban myth, Orange republican clap trap.

Public schools in the great state of Virginia saved my life. Thank you all, Teachers.

 

[Blues Man]

This guy sums it up pretty well

Being A Landlord Tests My Faith In Humanity

So..as a Landlord, can't you control the people who rent from you? Just make them behave and do what you want them to do.

They are not my children

You can't even get adults to do the right thing as your tenants and you get to hand pick them.....and yet you expect teachers to take anywhere from 25 - 200 students (depending if Elementary or High School) and get them to learn and remember everything taught them or else it's the teacher's fault.

Where did I ever say anything about any of that

All I said was teachers are like any other professionals that don't love their jobs
And FYI I don't hand pick my tenants I have a real estate agent do all the screening and credit checks for me,
I currently rent 30 units consisting of apartments and retail space

And I still get people who are deadbeats.

Just like any other person who rents properties does

Apparently, the fault is all yours. Stop bitching about your own problems to others who do not share your propensity to avoid responsibility.

Piss off.

And I was answering a question as to why I don't like being a landlord.

Unlike you I realize people work in jobs they don't love.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I realize people work in jobs they don't love.

'tis true. I have physics and math degrees and never once worked a day in the field, so...

I ended up doing corporate interiors military and civilian. Even though I hate that term civilian, that's something else entirely, whole different conversation. It's thread worthy, though, lemme tell ya.

 

[Blues Man]

I realize people work in jobs they don't love.

'tis true. I have physics and math degrees and never once worked a day in the field, so...

I ended up doing corporate interiors military and civilian. Even though I hate that term civilian, that's something else entirely, whole different conversation. It's thread worthy, though, lemme tell ya.

Well if you listen to the teachers on this board then you are the exception because ALL teachers just love their jobs.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So..as a Landlord, can't you control the people who rent from you? Just make them behave and do what you want them to do.

They are not my children

You can't even get adults to do the right thing as your tenants and you get to hand pick them.....and yet you expect teachers to take anywhere from 25 - 200 students (depending if Elementary or High School) and get them to learn and remember everything taught them or else it's the teacher's fault.

Where did I ever say anything about any of that

All I said was teachers are like any other professionals that don't love their jobs
And FYI I don't hand pick my tenants I have a real estate agent do all the screening and credit checks for me,
I currently rent 30 units consisting of apartments and retail space

And I still get people who are deadbeats.

Just like any other person who rents properties does

Apparently, the fault is all yours. Stop bitching about your own problems to others who do not share your propensity to avoid responsibility.

Piss off.

And I was answering a question as to why I don't like being a landlord.

Unlike you I realize people work in jobs they don't love.

That's why teachers love their jobs but hate the working environment they are forced to endure.

I would rather be pissed off than pissed on!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I realize people work in jobs they don't love.

'tis true. I have physics and math degrees and never once worked a day in the field, so...

I ended up doing corporate interiors military and civilian. Even though I hate that term civilian, that's something else entirely, whole different conversation. It's thread worthy, though, lemme tell ya.

Well if you listen to the teachers on this board then you are the exception because ALL teachers just love their jobs.

I loved my job as teacher but I would tell anyone looking to that career that the rewards suck! The pay, benefits, retirement, and working conditions are incredibly difficult to fathom unless you are working in the field.

 

[Blues Man]

I realize people work in jobs they don't love.

'tis true. I have physics and math degrees and never once worked a day in the field, so...

I ended up doing corporate interiors military and civilian. Even though I hate that term civilian, that's something else entirely, whole different conversation. It's thread worthy, though, lemme tell ya.

Well if you listen to the teachers on this board then you are the exception because ALL teachers just love their jobs.

I loved my job as teacher but I would tell anyone looking to that career that the rewards suck! The pay, benefits, retirement, and working conditions are incredibly difficult to fathom unless you are working in the field.

If you actually loved it so much the rewards would be the last thing on your mind

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I realize people work in jobs they don't love.

'tis true. I have physics and math degrees and never once worked a day in the field, so...

I ended up doing corporate interiors military and civilian. Even though I hate that term civilian, that's something else entirely, whole different conversation. It's thread worthy, though, lemme tell ya.

Well if you listen to the teachers on this board then you are the exception because ALL teachers just love their jobs.

I loved my job as teacher but I would tell anyone looking to that career that the rewards suck! The pay, benefits, retirement, and working conditions are incredibly difficult to fathom unless you are working in the field.

If you actually loved it so much the rewards would be the last thing on your mind

Love doesn't put gas in my tank, or pay the mortgage, dumbass!

 

[Blues Man]

I realize people work in jobs they don't love.

'tis true. I have physics and math degrees and never once worked a day in the field, so...

I ended up doing corporate interiors military and civilian. Even though I hate that term civilian, that's something else entirely, whole different conversation. It's thread worthy, though, lemme tell ya.

Well if you listen to the teachers on this board then you are the exception because ALL teachers just love their jobs.

I loved my job as teacher but I would tell anyone looking to that career that the rewards suck! The pay, benefits, retirement, and working conditions are incredibly difficult to fathom unless you are working in the field.

If you actually loved it so much the rewards would be the last thing on your mind

Love doesn't put gas in my tank, or pay the mortgage, dumbass!

As I said teaching is just a job to pay the bills and nothing more

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

'tis true. I have physics and math degrees and never once worked a day in the field, so...

I ended up doing corporate interiors military and civilian. Even though I hate that term civilian, that's something else entirely, whole different conversation. It's thread worthy, though, lemme tell ya.

Well if you listen to the teachers on this board then you are the exception because ALL teachers just love their jobs.

I loved my job as teacher but I would tell anyone looking to that career that the rewards suck! The pay, benefits, retirement, and working conditions are incredibly difficult to fathom unless you are working in the field.

If you actually loved it so much the rewards would be the last thing on your mind

Love doesn't put gas in my tank, or pay the mortgage, dumbass!

As I said teaching is just a job to pay the bills and nothing more

Why are you so stupid? Did you not learn anything in school? Particularly, why do you display a seemingly unending capability not to think your way out of a wet paper bag?