It's still getting hotter

It's getting hotter
So hot Skookersbil, FlacalTeen, and other prominent deniers are burnt to cinders somewhere out there.
While Ding is in a FRENZY putting a 100 irrelevant posts a day to try denying it.
His AC must be too weak for current Temps.


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It's getting hotter
So hot Skookersbil, FlacalTeen, and other prominent deniers are burnt to cinders somewhere out there.
While Ding is in a FRENZY putting a 100 irrelevant posts a day to try denying it.
His AC must be too weak for current Temps.


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What should the temperature be?
 
Can you show us a spot at any point in the last 800,000 years where CO2 got above 400 ppm?
That would have been 3 to 5 million years ago. Right about the time the planet became bipolar glaciated. Of course ice on the southern pole was around for quite some time before that.

And for the record the planet was warmer then than it is now.

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We have seen recently in this thread postings showing trends in the occurrence of both high and low temperature records around the planet. High temperature records have been increasing in numbers while low temperature records have been decreasing. This is taking place concurrently with rising global temperatures, so it should surprise no one. But it does supply an independent verification of the data sets. Recently, we have the added tidbit of a new record set, Sunday, 21 June, for the highest average global temperature in recorded history. With the advantage of hindsight, I now know that some will not be impressed with a record within only "recorded history" when there are 4.5 billion years in which the planet had some sort of average temperature and I guess we shouldn't be all that impressed with a global average ov 17.6C when bounced against a planet covered head to toe with boiling magma. However, just FYI, for purposes of meteorology and climate science, recorded history is considered that span of time during which sufficiently accurate and sufficiently widespread data are available. All those nerds in their white coats and ivory towers came up with 1850. That is 174 years back or a span of roughly 63,510 days (they didn't give me a month, day, hour, minute, second or anything else, those stingy bastards). That goes back, my calculations indicate, further back than your parents, your grandparents or your great grandparents. And, if we are NOT getting steadily warmer, it is an exceedingly rare ocurrence. Picking one, specific, random day in 63,510 days to be the hottest ever is equivalent to throwing heads 17 times in a row. Give it a shot and then get back to me. DON'T lose count. Of course, if, as all the world's scientists tell us, the world is getting steadily hotter, the odds of last Sunday being the hottest ever is nothing to get a woody ah-boot. In fact, it's kinda unavoidable, in'nt it.

So, there's a fair number of you folks that claim to believe anthropogenic (man-made) global warming is a "HOAX". "It's a LIE". Folks believe it ISN"T actually taking place. I'd like to talk to such folks. I'd really like to hear why they believe such things. I'd really like to hear a conceivable chain of events that could have produced the current temperature data record out of thin air. If anyone would like to give it a serious go, I can promise to do my very best on this occasion to withhold my usual bitter vituperation. Whether that's good enough, only time will tell.




Although a few places reached heatwave conditions back at the end of June, summer 2024 so far has been cooler than average. At the time of writing, the mean temperature in the UK stands at 13.04°C, which is 1.55°C cooler than the long-term meteorological average for the summer reason.

I assume they mean season
 
The request was for a point within the last 800,000 years.
You believe in man made climate change, and to come to that opinion you must have an in-depth knowledge of co2 compared to earth's history. Don't you?
 
It's landmass distribution and ocean currents which determine this planet's climate.
 
It's getting hotter
So hot Skookersbil, FlacalTeen, and other prominent deniers are burnt to cinders somewhere out there.
While Ding is in a FRENZY putting a 100 irrelevant posts a day to try denying it.
His AC must be too weak for current Temps.


NOAA: 1
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How is it the we survive 50 to 60F increases and decreases twice every single year?
 


Although a few places reached heatwave conditions back at the end of June, summer 2024 so far has been cooler than average. At the time of writing, the mean temperature in the UK stands at 13.04°C, which is 1.55°C cooler than the long-term meteorological average for the summer reason.

I assume they mean season
When less heat is circulated from the Atlantic to the Arctic, the UK will cool.

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What Replaces the Deep Water that Leaves the Atlantic?​

There are three main pathways for water to return to the North Atlantic and renew NADW, a warm-water route and two cold water routes (Figure 3). The "warm-water route" begins with the flow of surface and thermocline water from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean through the Indonesian Seas. Both colder return flows involve Antarctic Intermediate Water (AAIW), described above. AAIW enters the southern South Atlantic through the Drake Passage between Antarctica and South America, with some flowing into the Atlantic and some flowing into the Indian Ocean. AAIW also enters the Indian Ocean from south of Tasmania and flows westward towards Africa, where it joins the warm-water flow and the other branch of AAIW before rounding southern Africa, entering the South Atlantic, and flowing northward (Gordon 1985, Speich et al. 2002). Along its transit to the North Atlantic, AAIW from the Drake Passage, flowing above Tasman AAIW, mixes with overlying water and contributes to the "warm-water route" (Gordon 1986). These return flows provide a significant source of heat to high northern latitudes. Together, southward flow of water in the deep Atlantic and its shallower return flows are a large component of what is known as the global Meridional Overturning Circulation (MOC).

Deep Atlantic Circulation During the Last Glacial Maximum and Deglaciation


 
The atmosphere does not drive the planet's climate. Ocean currents which distribute heat controls the planet's climate.

The vast majority of heat is stored in the oceans, not the atmosphere.
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The atmosphere has 1/300th the mass of the ocean and 1/1000th the heat of the ocean.
 
The atmosphere has 1/300th the mass of the ocean and 1/1000th the heat of the ocean.
This statement is incorrect. You have quite consistently confused thermal content with specific heat capacity. Why don't you take a second and look them up.
 
This statement is incorrect. You have quite consistently confused thermal content with specific heat capacity. Why don't you take a second and look them up.
I don't believe I have. I am telling you that the ocean is a massive reservoir of heat. The atmosphere is not. The ocean contains 1000 times more heat than the atmosphere. It the world's largest solar collector on the planet.

But please feel free to tell me how much more heat you believe the ocean contains compared to the atmosphere.
 
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