It's Politics - Send Venezuelans back - Not about Immigration Policies

[MisterBeale]

A whole lot of people are regretting their vote and that most of the people didn't vote for what trump is doing.

 

[Nostra]

Trump has trouble walking these days. Run?

Did you think that would cover up your dumbassery about Trump running again?

 

[Dante]

I think you have missed the point, slugger.

Nope.

I get it.

You hate some immigrants for whatever reason.

 

[Meister]

Nope.

I get it.

You hate some immigrants for whatever reason.

Obviously, you REALLY did miss the point.
I don't hate any immigrants, I really dislike our government to have let it happen.
Legal entry into this country, I have no issue with.
Illegally entering this country, I DO have and issue with.

I know what I stated went way above yours and IM2's head, but most on this board will understand exactly what I meant.

 

[ColonelAngus]

We have a legal immigration process.

Follow it.

Thats all.

 

[j-mac]

I've worked with and have supported many undocumented and iffy-status immigrants. I've helped a few get Green Cards. One thing I've always been irritated with is their ignorance when it comes to democracy and our American ways (sound like Ben Franklin and his "Swarthy Germans" comments on "our British ways"). Immigrants tend to favor populists, strongmen leaders, and demagogues. Many favor popular/direct democracy, and struggle with the American concept of representative democracy. Dante is known to be a strong advocate of representative democracy, and an outspoken foe of direct democracy.

I must say that here schadenfreude rears it's head:

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.​

Venezuelans in the Miami suburb of Doral have been some of Trump’s biggest proponents.
Many feel betrayed after he revoked temporary protected status for thousands.

(should've been informed enough to know about Trump and the Kurds)

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Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.


DORAL, Fla. — Ronald Bellorin decided to flee Venezuela for the United States during President Donald Trump’s first administration, convinced the Republican leader would protect people like him who had been targeted by an autocratic regime.

Now the university professor is worried the Trump administration is going to deport him. The Department of Homeland Security has canceled the temporary protected status given to thousands of Venezuelans who have arrived in recent years. Bellorin’s permission to work in the United States is set to expire in April, and his shield from deportation in September.

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela — that they’re going to come take me somewhere I won’t be able to escape from,” Bellorin said, tearing up as he described his family’s ordeal. “It’s terrible to feel this way here in the United States.”

...

He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

We don't look for our votes from illegals....

 

[Sayaras]

I've worked with and have supported many undocumented and iffy-status immigrants. I've helped a few get Green Cards. One thing I've always been irritated with is their ignorance when it comes to democracy and our American ways (sound like Ben Franklin and his "Swarthy Germans" comments on "our British ways"). Immigrants tend to favor populists, strongmen leaders, and demagogues. Many favor popular/direct democracy, and struggle with the American concept of representative democracy. Dante is known to be a strong advocate of representative democracy, and an outspoken foe of direct democracy.

I must say that here schadenfreude rears it's head:

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.​

Venezuelans in the Miami suburb of Doral have been some of Trump’s biggest proponents.
Many feel betrayed after he revoked temporary protected status for thousands.

(should've been informed enough to know about Trump and the Kurds)

View attachment 1076654
Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.


DORAL, Fla. — Ronald Bellorin decided to flee Venezuela for the United States during President Donald Trump’s first administration, convinced the Republican leader would protect people like him who had been targeted by an autocratic regime.

Now the university professor is worried the Trump administration is going to deport him. The Department of Homeland Security has canceled the temporary protected status given to thousands of Venezuelans who have arrived in recent years. Bellorin’s permission to work in the United States is set to expire in April, and his shield from deportation in September.

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela — that they’re going to come take me somewhere I won’t be able to escape from,” Bellorin said, tearing up as he described his family’s ordeal. “It’s terrible to feel this way here in the United States.”

...

He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

Send the criminals to sh#thole Gaza of Diablo "palestinians"

 

[IM2]

. . . as are all your threads.

The only deranged people are trump supporters and apologists. They fit each criteria you have on the box.

 

[IM2]

We don't look for our votes from illegals....

Nobody does that. So stop repeating lies you guys made up.

 

[Dante]

We don't look for our votes from illegals....

Why did Trump campaign in the district?



read the stuff. They campaigned for him. They got others to vote for him. They provided in many places, the winning swing votes.

 

[theHawk]

Nope. And you failed to comprehend the plain English

“Trump knows exactly what’s going on in Venezuela, and these actions and these reports that they’re filing are completely inconsistent with the reality,” he said. “Was ‘America First’ policy then for us to send innocent people back to a regime? Is that what we do?”

De La Vega warned that Trump and Republicans will suffer at the ballot box. Many TPS holders have U.S. citizen relatives who can vote. He said the decision will influence how he votes in the midterms and the next presidential election.

“There’s a lot of people here saying, ‘Hey, we gave you this. This is our gift to you, our vote,’” he said. “And then you do all this stuff?”

So you’re claiming that family of illegals are voting for Trump when he was promising to deport them all?

 

[Dante]

So you’re claiming that family of illegals are voting for Trump when he was promising to deport them all?

Nope. Try reading and comprehending.

 

[BlackSand]

There is a legal way to enter this country, and there is an illegal way to enter this country.
It's quite a simple concept if you really think about it.

If there is blame to be placed, place it on Biden and his administration for allowing the illegals to enter this country.

.

And ... Blame the Biden Administration for leading them to believing that it was okay and they could stay ...
And all they had to do was support the President, or whomever they thought might let them stay.

Not really how it works here ... Although it might be more like how it works where they come from.

.​

 

[BlackSand]

I've worked with and have supported many undocumented and iffy-status immigrants. I've helped a few get Green Cards. One thing I've always been irritated with is their ignorance when it comes to democracy and our American ways (sound like Ben Franklin and his "Swarthy Germans" comments on "our British ways"). Immigrants tend to favor populists, strongmen leaders, and demagogues. Many favor popular/direct democracy, and struggle with the American concept of representative democracy. Dante is known to be a strong advocate of representative democracy, and an outspoken foe of direct democracy.

I must say that here schadenfreude rears it's head:

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.​

Venezuelans in the Miami suburb of Doral have been some of Trump’s biggest proponents.
Many feel betrayed after he revoked temporary protected status for thousands.

(should've been informed enough to know about Trump and the Kurds)

View attachment 1076654
Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.


DORAL, Fla. — Ronald Bellorin decided to flee Venezuela for the United States during President Donald Trump’s first administration, convinced the Republican leader would protect people like him who had been targeted by an autocratic regime.

Now the university professor is worried the Trump administration is going to deport him. The Department of Homeland Security has canceled the temporary protected status given to thousands of Venezuelans who have arrived in recent years. Bellorin’s permission to work in the United States is set to expire in April, and his shield from deportation in September.

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela — that they’re going to come take me somewhere I won’t be able to escape from,” Bellorin said, tearing up as he described his family’s ordeal. “It’s terrible to feel this way here in the United States.”

...

He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

.

If they are here illegally ... Or not a citizen, and subject to deportation ... They cannot vote.
Likewise ... Any actual support they gave President Trump, would fall more in line with why President Biden let them in.
Plus ... It's not like President Trump's Immigration Policy was a secret.

The failure to logically connect all the pieces and integral parts of the story ... Suggests remarkable creativity ...
And the idea the story is utter bullshit, and an attempt to sell snake oil with emotional pleas ...

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[Dante]

.

If they are here illegally ... Or not a citizen, and subject to deportation ... They cannot vote.
Likewise ... Any actual support they gave President Trump, would fall more in line with why President Biden let them in.
Plus ... It's not like President Trump's Immigration Policy was a secret.

The failure to logically connect all the pieces and integral parts of the story ... Suggests remarkable creativity ...
And the idea the story is utter bullshit, and an attempt to sell snake oil with emotional pleas ...

.​

Who said they could or did?

I've worked with and have supported many undocumented and iffy-status immigrants. I've helped a few get Green Cards. One thing I've always been irritated with is their ignorance when it comes to democracy and our American ways (sound like Ben Franklin and his "Swarthy Germans" comments on "our British ways"). Immigrants tend to favor populists, strongmen leaders, and demagogues. Many favor popular/direct democracy, and struggle with the American concept of representative democracy. Dante is known to be a strong advocate of representative democracy, and an outspoken foe of direct democracy.

I must say that here schadenfreude rears it's head:

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.​

Venezuelans in the Miami suburb of Doral have been some of Trump’s biggest proponents.
Many feel betrayed after he revoked temporary protected status for thousands.

(should've been informed enough to know about Trump and the Kurds)

View attachment 1076654
Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.


DORAL, Fla. — Ronald Bellorin decided to flee Venezuela for the United States during President Donald Trump’s first administration, convinced the Republican leader would protect people like him who had been targeted by an autocratic regime.

Now the university professor is worried the Trump administration is going to deport him. The Department of Homeland Security has canceled the temporary protected status given to thousands of Venezuelans who have arrived in recent years. Bellorin’s permission to work in the United States is set to expire in April, and his shield from deportation in September.

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela — that they’re going to come take me somewhere I won’t be able to escape from,” Bellorin said, tearing up as he described his family’s ordeal. “It’s terrible to feel this way here in the United States.”

...

He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

 

[Dante]

.

And ... Blame the Biden Administration for leading them to believing that it was okay and they could stay ...
And all they had to do was support the President, or whomever they thought might let them stay.

Not really how it works here ... Although it might be more like how it works where they come from.

.​

When Luzardo received TPS in 2021, he felt some relief, he said. Now he is worried about whether his family will be able to stay.

Going back to Venezuela, he said, is not an option. And he is alarmed by Trump’s initial gestures toward the Maduro regime. The president sent his special missions envoy, Richard Grenell, to meet with Maduro in Caracas in late January. The two reached an agreement for Venezuela to accept deportees and release hostages. The Trump administration did not address last year’s presidential election in Venezuela — widely considered fraudulent — or Maduro’s arrests of more than 1,700 political prisoners in recent months in its communications about the meeting.

“A photo of a Trump envoy shaking hands with Maduro in the middle of the Miraflores presidential palace? All smiling? It gives legitimacy to an illegitimate government” Luzardo said, shaking his head.

The journalist said that most Venezuelans, if not all, “want to go home” but “under the right circumstances.”

Luzardo once served on Venezuela’s equivalent of the Federal Communications Commission. But he said his efforts to fight government censorship made him a target. He said he decided to flee with his family in 2016 after regime officials began threatening his son. He has been waiting nine years for his asylum case to be heard.


When Luzardo received TPS in 2021, he felt some relief, he said. Now he is worried about whether his family will be able to stay.

Going back to Venezuela, he said, is not an option. And he is alarmed by Trump’s initial gestures toward the Maduro regime. The president sent his special missions envoy, Richard Grenell, to meet with Maduro in Caracas in late January. The two reached an agreement for Venezuela to accept deportees and release hostages. The Trump administration did not address last year’s presidential election in Venezuela — widely considered fraudulent — or Maduro’s arrests of more than 1,700 political prisoners in recent months in its communications about the meeting.

“A photo of a Trump envoy shaking hands with Maduro in the middle of the Miraflores presidential palace? All smiling? It gives legitimacy to an illegitimate government” Luzardo said, shaking his head.

The journalist said that most Venezuelans, if not all, “want to go home” but “under the right circumstances.”

 

[Dante]

. . . as are all your threads.

tit 4 tat

 

[BlackSand]

Who said they could or did?

.

I didn't suggest they could or did anything ... I said if either condition applied they couldn't vote.

The topic is their support and disappointment ... But their "support" is irrelevant because they couldn't vote anyway.
If you want to suggest their 'support' is relevant ... That would only be in regard to what the Biden Administration may have wanted ...
Because President Trump's Immigration Policy was not a secret and would definitely not be in their favor.

But alas ... I never suggested you understood how stupid it was to run with that story ...

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[j-mac]

Why did Trump campaign in the district?



read the stuff. They campaigned for him. They got others to vote for him. They provided in many places, the winning swing votes.

Please tell me you really aren’t that stupid?

 

[SeaMajor7]

I've worked with and have supported many undocumented and iffy-status immigrants. I've helped a few get Green Cards. One thing I've always been irritated with is their ignorance when it comes to democracy and our American ways (sound like Ben Franklin and his "Swarthy Germans" comments on "our British ways"). Immigrants tend to favor populists, strongmen leaders, and demagogues. Many favor popular/direct democracy, and struggle with the American concept of representative democracy. Dante is known to be a strong advocate of representative democracy, and an outspoken foe of direct democracy.

I must say that here schadenfreude rears it's head:

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.​

Venezuelans in the Miami suburb of Doral have been some of Trump’s biggest proponents.
Many feel betrayed after he revoked temporary protected status for thousands.

(should've been informed enough to know about Trump and the Kurds)

View attachment 1076654
Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.


DORAL, Fla. — Ronald Bellorin decided to flee Venezuela for the United States during President Donald Trump’s first administration, convinced the Republican leader would protect people like him who had been targeted by an autocratic regime.

Now the university professor is worried the Trump administration is going to deport him. The Department of Homeland Security has canceled the temporary protected status given to thousands of Venezuelans who have arrived in recent years. Bellorin’s permission to work in the United States is set to expire in April, and his shield from deportation in September.

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela — that they’re going to come take me somewhere I won’t be able to escape from,” Bellorin said, tearing up as he described his family’s ordeal. “It’s terrible to feel this way here in the United States.”

...

He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

Cool NARRATIVE, dumbass.