It's Politics - Send Venezuelans back - Not about Immigration Policies

[Zincwarrior]

You made a blank comment -- no link to who you could be addressing

You responded that I refused to believe Trump lost in 2020...

 

[BlackSand]

Do you believe Trump v. Anderson answered whether the President and Vice President are Officers of the United States? If so, link please...

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Obviously didn't think of it the way you were ...
My mistake, thanks for the heads up ...

Of course that still doesn't change anything in regard to his status as the Chief Executive in the Executive Branch ...
That oversees all the Departments under the Executive Branch.

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[Nostra]

No one is crying.

Stop projecting.

You are.

 

[Dante]

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Is the President of the United States an elected Official ... Yes
Is he an Officer in the sense that he is the Chief Executive of the United States
and it is his job to ensure the execution of our Laws ... Yes

As an Officer that executes the law in every aspect ... I personally don't think that is his job.
He is in charge of the Departments and can simply have his subordinates do that.

Link ... I'll stick with Former Justice Scalia ...
Give or take Chief Justice Roberts ... I kind of think he is a swamp rat.


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Your comment on CJ Roberts exposes you as a Loon.

In a 2014 concurrence and a short letter elaborating on it, Scalia indicated that the president was an “officer of the United States.”

 

[BlackSand]

Your comment on CJ Roberts exposes you as a Loon.

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How about this instead ...

Saul Alinsky's - Rules for Radicals - Rule 5: Ridicule the Individual

I know the playbook ... Pick it up from time to time myself ...
It's easier to destroy the Man than the Institution.

Here's a link to that ...

Rules For Radicals, Rule 5: “Ridicule Is Man’s Most Potent Weapon” - Washington Examiner

Saul Alinksy's Rules for Radicals encourages the use of ridicule against one's enemies. Rule five: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage. Alinksy’s fifth rule is a favorite tactic employed...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

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[struth]

I've worked with and have supported many undocumented and iffy-status immigrants. I've helped a few get Green Cards. One thing I've always been irritated with is their ignorance when it comes to democracy and our American ways (sound like Ben Franklin and his "Swarthy Germans" comments on "our British ways"). Immigrants tend to favor populists, strongmen leaders, and demagogues. Many favor popular/direct democracy, and struggle with the American concept of representative democracy. Dante is known to be a strong advocate of representative democracy, and an outspoken foe of direct democracy.

I must say that here schadenfreude rears it's head:

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.​

Venezuelans in the Miami suburb of Doral have been some of Trump’s biggest proponents.
Many feel betrayed after he revoked temporary protected status for thousands.

(should've been informed enough to know about Trump and the Kurds)

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Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.


DORAL, Fla. — Ronald Bellorin decided to flee Venezuela for the United States during President Donald Trump’s first administration, convinced the Republican leader would protect people like him who had been targeted by an autocratic regime.

Now the university professor is worried the Trump administration is going to deport him. The Department of Homeland Security has canceled the temporary protected status given to thousands of Venezuelans who have arrived in recent years. Bellorin’s permission to work in the United States is set to expire in April, and his shield from deportation in September.

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela — that they’re going to come take me somewhere I won’t be able to escape from,” Bellorin said, tearing up as he described his family’s ordeal. “It’s terrible to feel this way here in the United States.”

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He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

The key word is "temporary" - this was never met to be permenant.

 

[Dante]

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How about this instead ...

Saul Alinsky's - Rules for Radicals - Rule 5:"Ridicule the Person"
I know the playbook ... Pick it up from time to time myself ...

Here's a link to that ...

Rules For Radicals, Rule 5: “Ridicule Is Man’s Most Potent Weapon” - Washington Examiner

Saul Alinksy's Rules for Radicals encourages the use of ridicule against one's enemies. Rule five: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage. Alinksy’s fifth rule is a favorite tactic employed...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

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Saul Alinsky? too funny

Most people didn't know who he was until people like Glenn Beck went on rants giving old Saul quite the credit fro things ... bs

I actually knew of Saul because a dear friend used to work with his widow in Chicago. Growing up, I heard many stories of Saul, from a seriously credible source with no agenda. People like you often read into shit. The distortions of Saul's work is bad enough, but the outsized credit given to him by the Rightwing Noise Machine?

They found a great boogyman and ran with it and like the bs about the 2020 election (FOX/Billion dollars) people like you swallowed it whole.

 

[Dante]

The key word is "temporary" - this was never met to be permenant.

Administrative status. Not illegals.
We could've had comprehension immigration policy -- but Trump killed it so he could run on it. He deserves so much blame.

 

[struth]

Administrative status. Not illegals.
We could've had comprehension immigration policy -- but Trump killed it so he could run on it. He deserves so much blame.

Nope, they came here illegally, and needed TPS to stay here...the key word being temporary.

Trump didn't kill anything...what are you talking about?

Chuck S killed immgration reform, the House passed legislation and sent it to him back in 2023....as soon as they took the majoirtry there:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2/summary/00

 

[BlackSand]

Saul Alinsky? too funny

Most people didn't know who he was until people like Glenn Beck went on rants giving old Saul quite the credit fro things ... bs

I actually knew of Saul because a dear friend used to work with his widow in Chicago. Growing up, I heard many stories of Saul, from a seriously credible source with no agenda. People like you often read into shit. The distortions of Saul's work is bad enough, but the outsized credit given to him by the Rightwing Noise Machine?

They found a great boogyman and ran with it and like the bs about the 2020 election (FOX/Billion dollars) people like you swallowed it whole.

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So ... You try to lay bear traps (figuratively speaking of course) for people to step in (equally figuratively speaking) ...
In a stupid game of one upmanship that often causes people to completely ignore you (not figuratively speaking).

Then you just pollute everything with political nonsense thinking you can hide behind it all (figuratively speaking again).
What a fucking turd (that's pretty much dead on figuratively or not) ...

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[Dante]

Nope, they came here illegally, and needed TPS to stay here...the key word being temporary.

Trump didn't kill anything...what are you talking about?

Chuck S killed immgration reform, the House passed legislation and sent it to him back in 2023....as soon as they took the majoirtry there:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2/summary/00

You're not very bright, and you do not get that the OP is laughing at the Venezuelans.

You people just post with some kneejerk emotions triggered by the mere mention on "_____________" fill n the blank.

 

[Dante]

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So ... You try to lay bear traps (figuratively speaking of course) for people to step in (equally figuratively speaking) ...
In a stupid game of one upmanship that often causes people to completely ignore you (not figuratively speaking).

Then you just pollute everything with political nonsense thinking you can hide behind it all (figuratively speaking again).
What a fucking turd (that's pretty much dead on figuratively or not) ...

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You project out what you and your imbecilic pals are doing here?

cool
love the admission

 

[struth]

You're not very bright, and you do not get that the OP is laughing at the Venezuelans.

You people just post with some kneejerk emotions triggered by the mere mention on "_____________" fill n the blank.

Huh? Not sure if the op is laughing at them or not or have to do with the facts I presented?

 

[BlackSand]

You project out what you and your imbecilic pals are doing here?

cool
love the admission

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Whatever Turd ... Don't chase this, try to stay on topic ...

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[BlackSand]

Huh? Not sure if the op is laughing at them or not or have to do with the facts I presented?

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Give him enough time for another ... He'll change his mind in a minute ...

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[Dante]

I've worked with and have supported many undocumented and iffy-status immigrants. I've helped a few get Green Cards. One thing I've always been irritated with is their ignorance when it comes to democracy and our American ways (sound like Ben Franklin and his "Swarthy Germans" comments on "our British ways"). Immigrants tend to favor populists, strongmen leaders, and demagogues. Many favor popular/direct democracy, and struggle with the American concept of representative democracy. Dante is known to be a strong advocate of representative democracy, and an outspoken foe of direct democracy.

I must say that here schadenfreude rears it's head:

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.​

Venezuelans in the Miami suburb of Doral have been some of Trump’s biggest proponents.
Many feel betrayed after he revoked temporary protected status for thousands.

(should've been informed enough to know about Trump and the Kurds)

View attachment 1076654
Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.


DORAL, Fla. — Ronald Bellorin decided to flee Venezuela for the United States during President Donald Trump’s first administration, convinced the Republican leader would protect people like him who had been targeted by an autocratic regime.

Now the university professor is worried the Trump administration is going to deport him. The Department of Homeland Security has canceled the temporary protected status given to thousands of Venezuelans who have arrived in recent years. Bellorin’s permission to work in the United States is set to expire in April, and his shield from deportation in September.

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela — that they’re going to come take me somewhere I won’t be able to escape from,” Bellorin said, tearing up as he described his family’s ordeal. “It’s terrible to feel this way here in the United States.”

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He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

Uh oh!

BlackSand is a Lame Troll

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Whatever Turd ... Don't chase this, try to stay on topic ...

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[BlackSand]

Uh oh!

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BlackSand is a Lame Troll

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Damn ... I can draw you a map and you still get lost ...
You try way too hard to fail so bad.

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[Dante]

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Damn ... I can draw you a map and you still get lost ...
You try way too hard to fail so bad.

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[BlackSand]

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Reduce them to a single emoji in response ... Score ...

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[Dante]

I've worked with and have supported many undocumented and iffy-status immigrants. I've helped a few get Green Cards. One thing I've always been irritated with is their ignorance when it comes to democracy and our American ways (sound like Ben Franklin and his "Swarthy Germans" comments on "our British ways"). Immigrants tend to favor populists, strongmen leaders, and demagogues. Many favor popular/direct democracy, and struggle with the American concept of representative democracy. Dante is known to be a strong advocate of representative democracy, and an outspoken foe of direct democracy.

I must say that here schadenfreude rears it's head:

Venezuelans backed Trump. Now some worry he’ll deport them.​

Venezuelans in the Miami suburb of Doral have been some of Trump’s biggest proponents.
Many feel betrayed after he revoked temporary protected status for thousands.

(should've been informed enough to know about Trump and the Kurds)

View attachment 1076654
Rangel Walther, a U.S. resident, said her husband, who is Venezuelan and a U.S. citizen, voted for Harris and now chides her father for his support of Trump.


DORAL, Fla. — Ronald Bellorin decided to flee Venezuela for the United States during President Donald Trump’s first administration, convinced the Republican leader would protect people like him who had been targeted by an autocratic regime.

Now the university professor is worried the Trump administration is going to deport him. The Department of Homeland Security has canceled the temporary protected status given to thousands of Venezuelans who have arrived in recent years. Bellorin’s permission to work in the United States is set to expire in April, and his shield from deportation in September.

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela — that they’re going to come take me somewhere I won’t be able to escape from,” Bellorin said, tearing up as he described his family’s ordeal. “It’s terrible to feel this way here in the United States.”

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He paused for a moment to compose himself: “I thought we would be safe here.”

So many Magadonians misread this thread.

It's all hit & run posts and ignorance being bliss as far as the content of the OP

sad

"Can people trust, fully trust a convicted felon?"