It's down to us.

[Rawley]

Fanni is an American Patriot fighting an assault on our Democracy.

LOL So, TRUTH JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN WAY includes funneling $700,000 to your fuckbuddy, huh?

 

[Catsnmeters]

Actually you’re wrong. Polls have shown that a big percentage of Trump voters would NOT vote for him if he were convicted of even one crime.

I can't help but disagree with whatever polls you are referring too.

I can't imagine Trump supporters holding Trump accountable for anything...ever.

Good grief, the man stated that we should bypass the courts and take guns from crazy people and Trump supporters didn't bat an eye.

No. I believe any Trump supporter who says they wouldn't vote for him will ultimately glob onto misinformation about deep state judges, bias juries, or space lasers and still support him.

I can’t say if the SCOTUS is beholden to him or just to the Republican Party but this makes it clear that it’s one or the other.

There is almost zero possibility that the Court would rule that a President has life time immunity and they should probably have just refused to take this case and let the lower Court ruling stand.

Agreed.

The only REAL (non-political) reason to even take the case is that they think an argument could be reasonably made that a President might have lifetime immunity from prosecution. That’s absolutely absurd.

But here they can (and have set the stage to) slow walk this prosecution and pretend to have integrity by eventually ruling against an appeal that should never have reached them.

So yea folks. It’s up to us to stop this attack on Democracy.

We did it in 2020 and we MUST do it again.

You don't have to convince me.

And while we’re at it, remember what they did here and with the Dobbs/Doe ruling

I agree but even under good circumstances this will take decades. It took conservatives decades to stack the courts with judges that would over rule roe v Wade which was also made by a conservative court.

We need to get rid of all of these Republicans. From dog catcher to the White a house. Local/state elections , Both Houses of Congress

You can not trust Republicans to do the right thing

Ever

We need to get all republicans who support or capitulate like cowards to Trump...then maybe I will vote republican again.

 

[Rawley]

Still waiting for anyone to name a charge that was not a result of bad decisions made by Trump

Why can’t you?

I did. CRickets from you

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Lol!!!

 

[rightwinger]

Sadly I don't think the decision, regardless of outcome, will have much effect on voters.

Even if Smith somehow gets this case finished up before the election and a jury convicts, Trump supporters will still support him with a plethora of right wing talking points at the ready.

Sure, maybe a few independents are waiting for this decision but I doubt even many of them haven't already made up their minds.

Even if Trump is convicted before the election, Trump will just file an appeal.
Voters will still be voting based on a conviction that is under appeal

If Trump were to win the election, his Justice Department will refuse to defend the appeal.

 

[rightwinger]

I did. CRickets from you

Show me
Just name one that is not a result of Trumps bad decisions

 

[Rawley]

Show me
Just name one that is not a result of Trumps bad decisions

I repeat, I did. CRickets from you

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Out of 91 indictments, maybe 2 are somewhat legit and those relate to the classified docs but we just saw the current invalid in chief get a pass for storing them in his garage so those should get thrown out too.

 

[rightwinger]

I repeat, I did. CRickets from you

Show which post

Lying that you did is not a response

 

[Flash]

In the grand scheme of things I suppose it always has been.

By now I should have known better than to be shocked by the Court's decision to take on the Trump immunity case. But I still was. The very fact that the court is taking up this case with absolutely, unequivocally, no merit means in no uncertain terms that the conservative majority is doing what it can to make sure that Jack Smith's prosecution of Trump for the failed insurrection will not occur before the election. They are with him. Do they really think the American public will not see this for what it is? Delay is a victory for Trump and a defeat for justice. Something the conservatives understand implicitly.

Beyond the absurdity of taking the case in the first place is the way they have laid out the schedule. Oral arguments do not begin until April 22nd. An inexplicable delay after taking two and a half weeks to decide to take the case. This, after Smith asked the Court to decide whether to take it prior to the appellate court's unanimous decision no President has such immunity after being thrown out at the district court level.

Jack Smith, the special counsel prosecuting former President Donald J. Trump on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election, urged the Supreme Court on Wednesday to reject a request from Mr. Trump to put the case on hold while he pursues appeals.

“Delay in the resolution of these charges threatens to frustrate the public interest in a speedy and fair verdict — a compelling interest in every criminal case and one that has unique national importance here, as it involves federal criminal charges against a former president for alleged criminal efforts to overturn the results of the presidential election, including through the use of official power,” Mr. Smith wrote.
Special Counsel Asks Supreme Court to Move Quickly in Trump Immunity Case

The Court's ruling on the case is all but a foregone conclusion. It is not legally possible for the Court to claim that presidents have lifetime immunity from criminal prosecution for crimes they commit while in office. Trump's contention the administration of elections falls within the scope of his official duties being laughable. So instead, their strategy is to ensure that the American people will be denied knowing what the verdict in the case is before they cast their votes. Because the trial that was set to begin just days from now in early March is now on hold. In 7 weeks oral arguments will start. Even if the Court were to make an expedited ruling (not likely since it would defeat the purpose of the conservatives) Judge Chutkan will be up against the DoJ prohibition of not engaging in actions so close to an election that it could influence the outcome. The prohibition Repub Jim Comey violated before the 2016 election. It's as though the conservatives were looking at a calendar to inform their decisions. Of course they were.

So, it's down to us. The institutions of government in the era of Trumpery are no longer aligned with the public's interest in preserving democracy. We, that is those of us who see what is happening and know what is at stake, must save ourselves now. The entity riding to the rescue is us.........or it all comes down.

It is up to us to make sure that the goddamn Democrats do not steal the 2024 Presidential election like they did in 2020. We sure as hell can't depend upon the government to stop Democrat thievery of our Republic.

It is also up to us to make sure that we don't get another four years of disastrous Democrat Party control of our government.

Our Founding Fathers gave us the tools we need to stop tyrannical oppression but it is up to us to do the right thing and put an end to the thievery of our Republic.

 

[Lesh]

I can't help but disagree with whatever polls you are referring too.

I can't imagine Trump supporters holding Trump accountable for anything...ever.

Good grief, the man stated that we should bypass the courts and take guns from crazy people and Trump supporters didn't bat an eye.

No. I believe any Trump supporter who says they wouldn't vote for him will ultimately glob onto misinformation about deep state judges, bias juries, or space lasers and still support him.



Agreed.



You don't have to convince me.



I agree but even under good circumstances this will take decades. It took conservatives decades to stack the courts with judges that would over rule roe v Wade which was also made by a conservative court.


We need to get all republicans who support or capitulate like cowards to Trump...then maybe I will vote republican again.

You note that it could take time to remake the SCOTUS.

That may be true. It may not. But unless we rally and use the only tool we have (our vote) It is a given that it will get WORSE.

And events have a way of surprising us.

As far as voting Republican again, that party has some real work to do in order to wipe the extremist stain off them

 

[rightwinger]

Out of 91 indictments, maybe 2 are somewhat legit and those relate to the classified docs but we just saw the current invalid in chief get a pass for storing them in his garage so those should get thrown out too.

Name any that are not a legitimate result of Trumps poor decisions

 

[Rawley]

Show which post

Lying that you did is not a response

Wrong thread grandpa. You OK?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Funny thread

 

[Lesh]

Just as a reminder

The Court took on Bush v Gore and made their (partisan) ruling with in DAYS

They can move very quickly… when they want to

 

[bendog]

Trump 2024: I'm too Pretty to go to Prison!


The court is giving Trump a gift by delaying this until the Summer, to be sure, when this is a slam dunk case. No one will believe that the Court will grant Presidents absolute immunity, with impeachment being the only remedy. Even this court isn't that reckless.

But by dragging its feet, they will make it harder to get a conviction on the two federal charges by summer. The trials might start before then, however, and that might be bad for Trump.

But at the end of the day, it's not up to the courts to stop Trump, it's up to the voters.

And I think that's why the SC has boxed out the federal prosecutions. (Cannon aside.)

IF most voters want Trump to have a second term, and I suspect they do, then so be it.

 

[Redfish]

Do you remember roughly when it was that you lost touch with reality?

that would be you, I am totally connected to reality. you, however, believe the media lies instead of the facts. I feel sorry for you

 

[Red Front]

Not even close. I'm not denying it hasn't arrived. You can see the liberals embracing it and bowing down to communism needing to be led by the nose and held in bondage. The US is splitting but your commie love fest won't be happening everywhere.

American Democrats aren't communists. Some of my most ardent opponents on this forum are Democrats, so you're a fool identifying Democrats as communists. They're at best, social democrats, like Bernie Sanders. Bernie is "Socialism Lite", with plenty of capitalism, and a bit of socialism. Communism is the final state of socialism, when there are no markets, private property, and all mass production is centrally planned by a communist led government. Most American Democrats aren't for that. They erroneously think "private property" is personal property, due to all of the misinformation they've received about communism. My point is that American Dems aren't communists, stop claiming they are.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

American Democrats aren't communists. Some of my most ardent opponents on this forum are Democrats, so you're a fool identifying Democrats as communists. They're at best, social democrats, like Bernie Sanders. Bernie is "Socialism Lite", with plenty of capitalism, and a bit of socialism. Communism is the final state of socialism, when there are no markets, private property, and all mass production is centrally planned by a communist led government. Most American Democrats aren't for that. They erroneously think "private property" is personal property, due to all of the misinformation they've received about communism. My point is that American Dems aren't communists.

"You will own nothing and be happy"

Thats their goal. Thats communism.

 

[Red Front]

"You will own nothing and be happy"

Thats their goal. Thats communism.

On the contrary, it's own everything and be happier.