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In the grand scheme of things I suppose it always has been.

By now I should have known better than to be shocked by the Court's decision to take on the Trump immunity case. But I still was. The very fact that the court is taking up this case with absolutely, unequivocally, no merit means in no uncertain terms that the conservative majority is doing what it can to make sure that Jack Smith's prosecution of Trump for the failed insurrection will not occur before the election. They are with him. Do they really think the American public will not see this for what it is? Delay is a victory for Trump and a defeat for justice. Something the conservatives understand implicitly.

Beyond the absurdity of taking the case in the first place is the way they have laid out the schedule. Oral arguments do not begin until April 22nd. An inexplicable delay after taking two and a half weeks to decide to take the case. This, after Smith asked the Court to decide whether to take it prior to the appellate court's unanimous decision no President has such immunity after being thrown out at the district court level.

Jack Smith, the special counsel prosecuting former President Donald J. Trump on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election, urged the Supreme Court on Wednesday to reject a request from Mr. Trump to put the case on hold while he pursues appeals.

“Delay in the resolution of these charges threatens to frustrate the public interest in a speedy and fair verdict — a compelling interest in every criminal case and one that has unique national importance here, as it involves federal criminal charges against a former president for alleged criminal efforts to overturn the results of the presidential election, including through the use of official power,” Mr. Smith wrote.

Special Counsel Asks Supreme Court to Move Quickly in Trump Immunity Case

The Court's ruling on the case is all but a foregone conclusion. It is not legally possible for the Court to claim that presidents have lifetime immunity from criminal prosecution for crimes they commit while in office. Trump's contention the administration of elections falls within the scope of his official duties being laughable. So instead, their strategy is to ensure that the American people will be denied knowing what the verdict in the case is before they cast their votes. Because the trial that was set to begin just days from now in early March is now on hold. In 7 weeks oral arguments will start. Even if the Court were to make an expedited ruling (not likely since it would defeat the purpose of the conservatives) Judge Chutkan will be up against the DoJ prohibition of not engaging in actions so close to an election that it could influence the outcome. The prohibition Repub Jim Comey violated before the 2016 election. It's as though the conservatives were looking at a calendar to inform their decisions. Of course they were.

So, it's down to us. The institutions of government in the era of Trumpery are no longer aligned with the public's interest in preserving democracy. We, that is those of us who see what is happening and know what is at stake, must save ourselves now. The entity riding to the rescue is us.........or it all comes down.
 
Trump 2024: I'm too Pretty to go to Prison!


The court is giving Trump a gift by delaying this until the Summer, to be sure, when this is a slam dunk case. No one will believe that the Court will grant Presidents absolute immunity, with impeachment being the only remedy. Even this court isn't that reckless.

But by dragging its feet, they will make it harder to get a conviction on the two federal charges by summer. The trials might start before then, however, and that might be bad for Trump.

But at the end of the day, it's not up to the courts to stop Trump, it's up to the voters.
 
In the grand scheme of things I suppose it always has been.

By now I should have known better than to be shocked by the Court's decision to take on the Trump immunity case. But I still was. The very fact that the court is taking up this case with absolutely, unequivocally, no merit means in no uncertain terms that the conservative majority is doing what it can to make sure that Jack Smith's prosecution of Trump for the failed insurrection will not occur before the election. They are with him. Do they really think the American public will not see this for what it is? Delay is a victory for Trump and a defeat for justice. Something the conservatives understand implicitly.

Beyond the absurdity of taking the case in the first place is the way they have laid out the schedule. Oral arguments do not begin until April 22nd. An inexplicable delay after taking two and a half weeks to decide to take the case. This, after Smith asked the Court to decide whether to take it prior to the appellate court's unanimous decision no President has such immunity after being thrown out at the district court level.

Jack Smith, the special counsel prosecuting former President Donald J. Trump on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election, urged the Supreme Court on Wednesday to reject a request from Mr. Trump to put the case on hold while he pursues appeals.

“Delay in the resolution of these charges threatens to frustrate the public interest in a speedy and fair verdict — a compelling interest in every criminal case and one that has unique national importance here, as it involves federal criminal charges against a former president for alleged criminal efforts to overturn the results of the presidential election, including through the use of official power,” Mr. Smith wrote.

Special Counsel Asks Supreme Court to Move Quickly in Trump Immunity Case

The Court's ruling on the case is all but a foregone conclusion. It is not legally possible for the Court to claim that presidents have lifetime immunity from criminal prosecution for crimes they commit while in office. Trump's contention the administration of elections falls within the scope of his official duties being laughable. So instead, their strategy is to ensure that the American people will be denied knowing what the verdict in the case is before they cast their votes. Because the trial that was set to begin just days from now in early March is now on hold. In 7 weeks oral arguments will start. Even if the Court were to make an expedited ruling (not likely since it would defeat the purpose of the conservatives) Judge Chutkan will be up against the DoJ prohibition of not engaging in actions so close to an election that it could influence the outcome. The prohibition Repub Jim Comey violated before the 2016 election. It's as though the conservatives were looking at a calendar to inform their decisions. Of course they were.

So, it's down to us. The institutions of government in the era of Trumpery are no longer aligned with the public's interest in preserving democracy. We, that is those of us who see what is happening and know what is at stake, must save ourselves now. The entity riding to the rescue is us.........or it all comes down.
I wasn't shocked but I did think the Robert's court was trying to at least preserve some respect for the legacy of his tenure but I guess not. :lmao:
 
I wasn't shocked but I did think the Robert's court was trying to at least preserve some respect for the legacy of his tenure but I guess not. :lmao:

The problem is, this is probably an issue the court needs to rule on. It probably should have ruled on it during the Nixon years, but it never got that far.

The fact that it allows Trump another four month delay before we can drag him into a court is a problem. The voters SHOULD know what happened before the election.

That said, at the rate Trump is dementing, Republicans might have much bigger problems than these trials.
 
The problem is, this is probably an issue the court needs to rule on. It probably should have ruled on it during the Nixon years, but it never got that far.

The fact that it allows Trump another four month delay before we can drag him into a court is a problem. The voters SHOULD know what happened before the election.

That said, at the rate Trump is dementing, Republicans might have much bigger problems than these trials.
I don't have a problem with them deciding the issue but them doing it in this manner and allowing Trump to delay and refusing to decide on the matter of whether Trump is an insurrectionist in the 14th Amendment case just shows how afraid Roberts is of MAGA and how far he'll go to punt on doing his job so as not to upset them. He'll go down as a pussy who weakened the power and authority of the Court to act as equal check on the Executive. That'll be his legacy.
 
Biden needs them to back up that claim, as he will be next to face it, as will Obama; that the useful idiots on left don't get this is to be expected, since they aren't too bright.
 
In the grand scheme of things I suppose it always has been.

By now I should have known better than to be shocked by the Court's decision to take on the Trump immunity case. But I still was. The very fact that the court is taking up this case with absolutely, unequivocally, no merit means in no uncertain terms that the conservative majority is doing what it can to make sure that Jack Smith's prosecution of Trump for the failed insurrection will not occur before the election. They are with him. Do they really think the American public will not see this for what it is? Delay is a victory for Trump and a defeat for justice. Something the conservatives understand implicitly.

Beyond the absurdity of taking the case in the first place is the way they have laid out the schedule. Oral arguments do not begin until April 22nd. An inexplicable delay after taking two and a half weeks to decide to take the case. This, after Smith asked the Court to decide whether to take it prior to the appellate court's unanimous decision no President has such immunity after being thrown out at the district court level.

Jack Smith, the special counsel prosecuting former President Donald J. Trump on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election, urged the Supreme Court on Wednesday to reject a request from Mr. Trump to put the case on hold while he pursues appeals.

“Delay in the resolution of these charges threatens to frustrate the public interest in a speedy and fair verdict — a compelling interest in every criminal case and one that has unique national importance here, as it involves federal criminal charges against a former president for alleged criminal efforts to overturn the results of the presidential election, including through the use of official power,” Mr. Smith wrote.

Special Counsel Asks Supreme Court to Move Quickly in Trump Immunity Case

The Court's ruling on the case is all but a foregone conclusion. It is not legally possible for the Court to claim that presidents have lifetime immunity from criminal prosecution for crimes they commit while in office. Trump's contention the administration of elections falls within the scope of his official duties being laughable. So instead, their strategy is to ensure that the American people will be denied knowing what the verdict in the case is before they cast their votes. Because the trial that was set to begin just days from now in early March is now on hold. In 7 weeks oral arguments will start. Even if the Court were to make an expedited ruling (not likely since it would defeat the purpose of the conservatives) Judge Chutkan will be up against the DoJ prohibition of not engaging in actions so close to an election that it could influence the outcome. The prohibition Repub Jim Comey violated before the 2016 election. It's as though the conservatives were looking at a calendar to inform their decisions. Of course they were.

So, it's down to us. The institutions of government in the era of Trumpery are no longer aligned with the public's interest in preserving democracy. We, that is those of us who see what is happening and know what is at stake, must save ourselves now. The entity riding to the rescue is us.........or it all comes down.

The Supreme Court is slow walking this to allow Trump to delay till after the election. If he wins, his Justice Department will make it disappear
The SCOTUS will then vote 9-0 on immunity
 
Biden needs them to back up that claim, as he will be next to face it, as will Obama; that the useful idiots on left don't get this is to be expected, since they aren't too bright.

Not really.

Obama and Biden listen to the lawyers to make sure that what they do doesn't violate the law.

Trump's problem is that when the lawyers told him things he didn't like to hear, he fired them, as he did with Sessions and Barr.
 
Biden needs them to back up that claim, as he will be next to face it, as will Obama; that the useful idiots on left don't get this is to be expected, since they aren't too bright.
What you don't get is that no one on the left cares if you can charge any of them with crimes. If you have enough evidence of them having committed crimes that you can get an indictment, I promise you, no one here is going to cry as hard about that as you all cry for Trump.
 
The problem is, this is probably an issue the court needs to rule on. It probably should have ruled on it during the Nixon years, but it never got that far.

The fact that it allows Trump another four month delay before we can drag him into a court is a problem. The voters SHOULD know what happened before the election.

That said, at the rate Trump is dementing, Republicans might have much bigger problems than these trials.
If the Court wanted to make a point, they could fast track this and quickly tell Trump NO

But they are allowing the wheels of Justice to grind slowly.
 
The problem is, this is probably an issue the court needs to rule on. It probably should have ruled on it during the Nixon years, but it never got that far.

The fact that it allows Trump another four month delay before we can drag him into a court is a problem. The voters SHOULD know what happened before the election.

That said, at the rate Trump is dementing, Republicans might have much bigger problems than these trials.
That said, at the rate Trump is dementing, Republicans might have much bigger problems than these trials.
Problems Democrats are already facing with Biden?
 
In the grand scheme of things I suppose it always has been.

By now I should have known better than to be shocked by the Court's decision to take on the Trump immunity case. But I still was. The very fact that the court is taking up this case with absolutely, unequivocally, no merit means in no uncertain terms that the conservative majority is doing what it can to make sure that Jack Smith's prosecution of Trump for the failed insurrection will not occur before the election. They are with him. Do they really think the American public will not see this for what it is? Delay is a victory for Trump and a defeat for justice. Something the conservatives understand implicitly.

Beyond the absurdity of taking the case in the first place is the way they have laid out the schedule. Oral arguments do not begin until April 22nd. An inexplicable delay after taking two and a half weeks to decide to take the case. This, after Smith asked the Court to decide whether to take it prior to the appellate court's unanimous decision no President has such immunity after being thrown out at the district court level.

Jack Smith, the special counsel prosecuting former President Donald J. Trump on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election, urged the Supreme Court on Wednesday to reject a request from Mr. Trump to put the case on hold while he pursues appeals.

“Delay in the resolution of these charges threatens to frustrate the public interest in a speedy and fair verdict — a compelling interest in every criminal case and one that has unique national importance here, as it involves federal criminal charges against a former president for alleged criminal efforts to overturn the results of the presidential election, including through the use of official power,” Mr. Smith wrote.

Special Counsel Asks Supreme Court to Move Quickly in Trump Immunity Case

The Court's ruling on the case is all but a foregone conclusion. It is not legally possible for the Court to claim that presidents have lifetime immunity from criminal prosecution for crimes they commit while in office. Trump's contention the administration of elections falls within the scope of his official duties being laughable. So instead, their strategy is to ensure that the American people will be denied knowing what the verdict in the case is before they cast their votes. Because the trial that was set to begin just days from now in early March is now on hold. In 7 weeks oral arguments will start. Even if the Court were to make an expedited ruling (not likely since it would defeat the purpose of the conservatives) Judge Chutkan will be up against the DoJ prohibition of not engaging in actions so close to an election that it could influence the outcome. The prohibition Repub Jim Comey violated before the 2016 election. It's as though the conservatives were looking at a calendar to inform their decisions. Of course they were.

So, it's down to us. The institutions of government in the era of Trumpery are no longer aligned with the public's interest in preserving democracy. We, that is those of us who see what is happening and know what is at stake, must save ourselves now. The entity riding to the rescue is us.........or it all comes down.
Most Americans don't want Trump as their president, so you wouldn't be serving the American public if you somehow forced Trump down everyone's throat. Of course, you can't do that. You'll never achieve anything trying to force Trump into the White House, and if you're foolish enough to resort to violance you'll get ripped to pieces by the US Military and Law Enforcement.
 
If the Court wanted to make a point, they could fast track this and quickly tell Trump NO

But they are allowing the wheels of Justice to grind slowly.
Didn't you read the OP?
It's up to YOU now!
Whatchya gonna do about us "deplorables"?
Go ahead and tell, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT US "DEPLORABLES"??????????????????
 
Didn't you read the OP?
It's up to YOU now!
Whatchya gonna do about us "deplorables"?
Go ahead and tell, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT US "DEPLORABLES"??????????????????
You'll just get eaten alive by the US Army and Marines, including the LE.
 

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