It would seem to me the residual fallout of the 12 Day War in Iran is a message that "U.S technology is better than Russian/Iranian technology"

[AZrailwhale]

Wrong.
We do not know the full size of the Russian nuclear arsenal, but the estimates are it is twice the size of ours.

They do have EMP protection because they do not put delicate cpus in everything like we do.
For example, their vehicles often still have breaker point in a distributer instead of an ECU.
They do not connect everything with the Internet, and use shielding on all computers.
The older the technology, the larger the scale, so the less vulnerable to EMP pulses.
And there is no doubt at all Russia uses olde and therefore more resilient technology than we do.

Wrong. From Global Military.net, here is a comparsion of the aresenals of all countries that have nuclear weapons:
"

Nuclear Arsenals by Country​

Russia

United States

China

France

United Kingdom

India

Pakistan

Israel

North Korea

[th]Country[/th]

[th]
Warheads

[/th][th]
Deployed

[/th][th]
Stored

[/th][th]
Retired

[/th]
[td]
5449

[/td][td]
1710

[/td][td]
2589

[/td][td]
1150

[/td]
[td]
5277

[/td][td]
1770

[/td][td]
1930

[/td][td]
1577

[/td]
[td]
600

[/td][td]
24

[/td][td]
576

[/td][td]
0

[/td]
[td]
290

[/td][td]
280

[/td][td]
10

[/td][td]
0

[/td]
[td]
225

[/td][td]
120

[/td][td]
105

[/td][td]
0

[/td]
[td]
180

[/td][td]
0

[/td][td]
180

[/td][td]
0

[/td]
[td]
170

[/td][td]
0

[/td][td]
170

[/td][td]
0

[/td]
[td]
90

[/td][td]
0

[/td][td]
90

[/td][td]
0

[/td]
[td]
50

[/td][td]
0

[/td][td]
50

[/td][td]
0

[/td]​

What I meant by “doomed to failure” was about destroying that underground facility.

The Israeli attack was directed at the entire program and to a lesser extent the Iranian government's power to repress its citizens.

 

[BackAgain]

That was a capability they simply do not have. Therefore that claim does not apply, as that was never their mission.

Which would imply what? That would imply that this was preplanned and coordinated.

I’m fine with that.

 

[Mushroom]

That would imply that this was preplanned and coordinated.

I actually already addressed that, so no need to do it again.

But one thing I constantly shake my head at, is how little most people actually understand how things work. They are so consumed with attacking anything they do not like that they are consumed with failure to see the actual mission.

 

[BackAgain]

I actually already addressed that, so no need to do it again.

Making sure that what I said is still being interpreted accurately is a need I can post about. It almost looked like you were disagreeing with what I had said. And the fact that you may have already said something doesn’t mean it can’t be stated again.

But one thing I constantly shake my head at, is how little most people actually understand how things work. They are so consumed with attacking anything they do not like that they are consumed with failure to see the actual mission.

That I completely agree with. But my speculation isn’t exactly how our government has represented these matters.

 

[Mushroom]

And the fact that you may have already said something doesn’t mean it can’t be stated again.

I actually also believe that. And it makes a hell of a lot of sense when you look at the timeline.

Operation Rising Lion started on 13 June, and concentrated a hell of a lot on destroying Iranian air defenses. They went after a hell of a lot of other infrastructure, but what was lesser reported was that they almost wiped out the air defense systems.

Then on 15 June reports started surfacing that a huge number of US air tanker aircraft were leaving their bases and heading towards Europe. Now this was widely reported on, much more so because it was not really needed. We have air tankers already in the region, from England and Germany to Quatar and Diego Garcia and Japan. So why send around 30 additional tankers?

I think that was two messages being sent. For one, it was a warning to Iran. And it was an additional warning to Russia. Because those tankers would most likely be used for only one mission, refueling B-2 bombers.

And if somebody is not thinking of Russia, consider this. The US almost casually sent 30 tankers to Europe. The entire Russian Air Tanker fleet is only 19 tankers. The US just sent over 150% of the entire Russian tanker fleet almost casually, and did not even try to hide it.

Then of course the US strike on 22 June.

The timing and the selection of the Israeli targeting is to precise for this to not have been planned ahead of time.

And there is yet another message here, one aimed at Russia and China. With an export version of the F-35A, Israel almost completely destroyed all air defenses in most of Iran. Without taking any losses. The US then followed it up with an even more powerful strike, once again with no losses.

And Iran was using some of the most modern air defenses that China and Russia export. And both Israel and the US swept clean through them without losses.

I bet both nations have a lot of people in their versions of the Pentagon quietly crapping their pants right about now. This was both a powerful as well as subtle display of force. Very much in the vein of Teddy Roosevelt's "Big Stick Diplomacy". The US and Israel showed three of the largest bullies on the planet what they are capable of, and it is something the US can repeat globally at will even without Israel.

And defense planners in many countries are now likely examining their own policies, and wondering what else the US might have that it has not shown anybody yet.

And at least for the remainder of the Trump Presidency, I think this would likely be the warning that the US is about to strike. Sending out a large number of air tankers, as a warning "That's all I can stands - I can't stands no more!"