It Seems that Schumer and Jefferies got their Meeting with Trump about the Shutdown

[rightwinger]

They arent, they just want to. They are willing to filibuster a continuing resolution in order to defund the country over it. But, they will lose in spectacular fashion.

Oh….its imaginary
So you want to cancel health insurance for millions of Americans because you imagine immigrants will get it

 

[Seymour Flops]

Oh….its imaginary
So you want to cancel health insurance for millions of Americans because you imagine immigrants will get it

Not at all imaginary.

Show me millions of Americans health care insurance cancelled.

Show me Schumer or Jeffries, or any big Dem denying the want to give health care to people who entered the country illegally.

 

[Augustine_]

Pretty sure that Joe Biden had the list

You MAGA people just cannot stop defending the pedophiles on the Epstein list for even a second

 

[Blisterfinger]

You MAGA people just cannot stop defending the pedophiles on the Epstein list for even a second

You shitLibs just cannot stop from looking past Biden's malfeasance as a president defending pedophiles including himself. Remove the plank from your own eye.

 

[Augustine_]

You shitLibs just cannot stop from looking past Biden's malfeasance as a president defending pedophiles including himself. Remove the plank from your own eye.

^ MAGA desperate to protect pedophiles with "but Biden." Release the list, pedophile apologist.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Actually,
A guy I know is trying to get his rightfully deserved Medicare without using SS retirement benefits. For that he wants to wait until he can get his full draw in a few years.

He just wants to use Medicare.

And he is having a very difficult time even talking with people due to cuts in Government services.

We needed a scalpel to make Government cuts and instead we are getting chainsaw cuts everywhere.

Democrats are largely to blame. The non-stop fighting everything at every turn is causing this. There just aren't enough resources to fight them and make needed cuts at the same time. So its chainsaw a prayer.

That makes no sense, as my full retirement age (67) is two years after I was eligible for Medicare (65). I am on Medicare now because I retired early at 62 and have disability.

If he is 65, he can use Medicare before he draws his SS retirement. Before 65, he needs to be disabled. maybe you could clarify the issue a little more.

 

[playtime]

I thought Trump was all about the Art of the Deal?

He can’t deal with Democrats
He can’t deal with Putin
Can’t make a deal with Gaza

 

[WorldWatcher]

That makes no sense, as my full retirement age (67) is two years after I was eligible for Medicare (65). I am on Medicare now because I retired early at 62 and have disability.

If he is 65, he can use Medicare before he draws his SS retirement. Before 65, he needs to be disabled. maybe you could clarify the issue a little more.

Agreed, enrolling in Medicare prior to drawing SS benefits is not a problem. We had to drop employer insurance at age 65 to go on MediCare which was a requirement to maintain TRICARE.

It made no sense to pay employer premiums and MediCare premiums to remain qualified. Especially since Employer Insurance would be primary, MediCare secondary, and that would make TRICARE tertiary and medical providers wouldn't process a 3rd claim.

I think his point though wasn't that it can't be done, but that cutbacks in services are causing delays in (a) customer service being accessed, the (b) skill level of those that are being talked to, and (c) delays in processing initial applications.

WW

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Agreed, enrolling in Medicare prior to drawing SS benefits is not a problem. We had to drop employer insurance at age 65 to go on MediCare which was a requirement to maintain TRICARE.

It made no sense to pay employer premiums and MediCare premiums to remain qualified. Especially since Employer Insurance would be primary, MediCare secondary, and that would make TRICARE tertiary and medical providers wouldn't process a 3rd claim.

I think his point though wasn't that it can't be done, but that cutbacks in services are causing delays in (a) customer service being accessed, the (b) skill level of those that are being talked to, and (c) delays in processing initial applications.

WW

He could delay Medicare, but he would have to pay a penalty. As long as his employers continues his coverage, he can maintain it, and not enroll in Medicare. Most corporate plans require you to enroll in Medicare. Having Tricare is whole different ball of wax.

The VA recommended I enroll in Medicare when I became eligible, but they have no relation to Medicare as they are my primary on everything, even my drugs. They recommend it for whatever reason I should lose VA coverage, I would already be enrolled in Medicare, but that is not likely to happen. I do not have a Medicare prescription drug plan because I would never use it.

The application process is all online and very easy to complete. There should be no delays associated with it. Mine was actually completed months in advance.

 

[Seymour Flops]

What is the Democrats' end game here,

They have added to their demands. They want to permanently repeal parts of the big beautiful bill including the part that denies healthcare to illegal aliens. Now they want all that in exchange for not filibustering a four week continuing resolution, instead of the seven week CR that passed the House.

The shutdowns are pretty easy for the sitting president of either to withstand. Trump endured a 35 day shutdown in 2018, that went over Christmas and New Year. That was about him wanting more border wall. Why would he cave now when all he wants is a clean CR?

Not even Dems on here buy the claim that it is a GOP shutdown.

Republicans need to stop addressing Democrats except publicly on the Senate floor. No closed door negotiations.

Once Dems get desperate, they may claim that someone in Repub leadership promised a consession, and end the filibuster.Then they will cry that Republicans lied.

 

[WorldWatcher]

He could delay Medicare, but he would have to pay a penalty. As long as his employers continues his coverage, he can maintain it, and not enroll in Medicare. Most corporate plans require you to enroll in Medicare. Having Tricare is whole different ball of wax.

Not that you said anything wrong, but just to clarify for others reading.

The penalty mention applies ONLY if you gap Medicare upon eligibility at 65 with a period of none insurance and then apply later. If you maintain employer coverage after age 65, individuals don't have to take MediCare at 65. But once you leave employer qualifying insurance, THEN you need to apply for MediCare to not incur a penalty.

What is the penalty? For Medicare Part B it's and additional 10% of your monthly base premium for each year delay. This is a permeant increase that will never go away. There is also a 1% per month penalty added to MediCare Part D (prescription coverage) premiums.

The VA recommended I enroll in Medicare when I became eligible, but they have no relation to Medicare as they are my primary on everything, even my drugs. They recommend it for whatever reason I should lose VA coverage, I would already be enrolled in Medicare, but that is not likely to happen. I do not have a Medicare prescription drug plan because I would never use it.

The application process is all online and very easy to complete. There should be no delays associated with it. Mine was actually completed months in advance.

Agreed, but we did our MediCare enrollment prior to the current Administration and it was very easy along with my wife's application for SS benefits. But with the current upheval during this administration with DOGE and the DRP (Deferred Resignation Program) and the impact on staffing it will be interesting to see what happens with customer service, SS benefit payments enrollments, and MediCare claims processing.

WW

 

[22lcidw]

^ MAGA desperate to protect pedophiles with "but Biden." Release the list, pedophile apologist.

When you come to power again, we know you will release it. As well as tax the rich and corporations at 90%.

 

[playtime]

When you come to power again, we know you will release it. As well as tax the rich and corporations at 90%.

 

[Blisterfinger]

^ MAGA desperate to protect pedophiles with "but Biden." Release the list, pedophile apologist.

Ask Biden dumbass he has it!

 

[Augustine_]

Ask Biden dumbass he has it!

Wow you can't stop protecting your beloved pedophiles for even the slightest moment

 

[Blisterfinger]

Wow you can't stop protecting your beloved pedophiles for even the slightest moment

You are the party of pedophiles and groomers LOL that's a fact.

 

[Augustine_]

You are the party of pedophiles and groomers LOL that's a fact.

Not according to current circumstances. Release the files

 

[Blisterfinger]

Not according to current circumstances. Release the files

Democrats are the party of pedophiles groomers and porn in schools.

 

[debbiedowner]

He could delay Medicare, but he would have to pay a penalty. As long as his employers continues his coverage, he can maintain it, and not enroll in Medicare. Most corporate plans require you to enroll in Medicare. Having Tricare is whole different ball of wax.

The VA recommended I enroll in Medicare when I became eligible, but they have no relation to Medicare as they are my primary on everything, even my drugs. They recommend it for whatever reason I should lose VA coverage, I would already be enrolled in Medicare, but that is not likely to happen. I do not have a Medicare prescription drug plan because I would never use it.

The application process is all online and very easy to complete. There should be no delays associated with it. Mine was actually completed months in advance.

If his employer was over 20 man group he would not have to pay a penalty if he stayed on the group plan until he got kicked off. You only pay the penalty for taking Part B if you did not have the group insurance and you waited.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If his employer was over 20 man group he would not have to pay a penalty if he stayed on the group plan until he got kicked off. You only pay the penalty for taking Part B if you did not have the group insurance and you waited.

Whoopee! Since that does not necessarily apply, thanks for muddying the waters.