It saddens me to see the continuation of justice delayed/denied.

[BackAgain]

Georgia appeals court postpones Trump arguments​

Donald Trump’s criminal case in Georgia is now on hold — indefinitely.

The Georgia Court of Appeals announced Monday that it has canceled arguments that were set for next month in the president-elect’s bid to kick Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis off of the case in which he’s charged with conspiring to corrupt Georgia’s 2020 election results.

The one-page order, signed by the clerk of the court, doesn’t explain the decision to scuttle the scheduled Dec. 5 arguments or identify which judges signed off on it. All four of Trump’s criminal cases have now faced delays since his election to a second presidential term.

A spokesperson for Willis and an attorney for Trump did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/18/georgia-appeals-court-postpones-trump-arguments-00190286

trump supporters would have us believe Fani Willis is corrupt. Alvin Bragg is corrupt. Judge Lewis Kaplan is corrupt. Letisha James is corrupt. Jack Smith is corrupt. Judge Juan Merchan is corrupt. Judge Tanya Chutkan is corrupt. AG Merrick Garland is corrupt. Every member of every grand jury that voted to indict trump and his co-defendants is corrupt. In order for you not to be corrupt your actions must align with trump's wishes. Like Judge Aileen Cannon.

Essentially, they would have us believe anyone involved in the prosecution of trump's alleged and adjudicated crimes is inherently corrupt by virtue of the fact they are involved in the prosecution. How did they come to this conclusion? trump, the defendant, who worked with his co-conspirators to launch a scheme to hold on to power using slates of fake electors, who refused to comply with a subpoena demanding the return of classified documents in his possession, told them to believe it. And obediently, they did.

If you were facing multiple criminal indictments in multiple jurisdictions, but could make those cases go away before being adjudicated, how could you make appear as though justice was served when in fact it was not?

“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell.”

Aww. OP is saddened.

 

[berg80]

This is why I would prefer the case be delayed, not dismissed, so that it can be appealed and the voters of American can see how the Democrats came up with bogus cases that have no merit under the law in order to fool gullible voters that Trump is a convicted felon.

At the same time, the judge knows that his shenanigans designed to keep Trump out of the WH will be revealed, and he himself may face consequences, and thus he will drop it.

You understand trump doesn't want to stand trial, right? There's a reason for that which can be found in the indictments. It's called overwhelming evidence of guilt.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Is that a denial of the legitimate grand jury proceedings leading to trump's multiple indictments?

A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich. Do you have a point?

 

[BackAgain]

Is that a denial of the legitimate grand jury proceedings leading to trump's multiple indictments?

What legitimate grand jury proceedings were those?

 

[berg80]

Not all cases go to trial, and some that do, get overturned in higher courts. You can expect to see the NY cases being overturned if the judge doesn't dismiss it outright. And believe it or not that's still a strong possibility.

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Manhattan prosecutors on Tuesday rebuffed President-elect Donald J. Trump’s request to dismiss his criminal conviction in the wake of his electoral victory, signaling instead their willingness to freeze the case while he holds office.

In a letter to the judge overseeing the case, prosecutors from the Manhattan district attorney’s office emphasized that a jury had already convicted Mr. Trump of falsifying records to cover up a sex scandal. Prosecutors and judges are often loath to unravel a jury’s verdict.

But acknowledging the unprecedented nature of the case — Mr. Trump would be the first felon to serve as president — the prosecutors raised the prospect of a four-year freeze so that he will not be sentenced for his crimes until he is out of office.

Manhattan D.A. Suggests Freezing Trump’s Case While He Is President

With President-elect Donald J. Trump’s sentencing on hold, his lawyers are pushing to dismiss the case. The district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, is opposing the effort.

www.nytimes.com

"Not all cases go to trial, and some that do, get overturned in higher courts."

Of course. But trump's cases were scheduled to begin because of the enormously consequential importance to the country they represented. Interrupted by trump's Court's fabricated immunity ruling, Cannon's sycophancy, and the judges and prosecutors so excoriated for their alleged unfairness giving every consideration imaginable to the extraordinary circumstances of a felon being elected prez.

 

[berg80]

A grand jury can indict a ham sandwich. Do you have a point?

Not one you would acknowledge. You being a cult member and all.

Cuz.......you know........a ham sandwich wasn't indicted. trump was. Based on a mountain of evidence. Is there anything in Smith's indictments you take factual exception to?

 

[BackAgain]

You understand trump doesn't want to stand trial, right? There's a reason for that which can be found in the indictments. It's called overwhelming evidence of guilt.

You realize that there is no credible or meritorious evidence of any crime. Right?

And nobody (guilty or completely innocent) wants to stand trial. It would be ridiculous to want to.

 

[berg80]

Not all cases go to trial, and some that do, get overturned in higher courts. You can expect to see the NY cases being overturned if the judge doesn't dismiss it outright. And believe it or not that's still a strong possibility.

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In their letter, the prosecutors spoke out against a dismissal, urging the judge to balance the interests of the presidency with “the integrity of the criminal justice system.”

“The people deeply respect the office of the president, are mindful of the demands and obligations of the presidency, and acknowledge that defendant’s inauguration will raise unprecedented legal questions,” the prosecutors wrote. “We also deeply respect the fundamental role of the jury in our constitutional system.”

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Not one you would acknowledge. You being a cult member and all.

Cuz.......you know........a ham sandwich wasn't indicted. trump was. Based on a mountain of evidence. Is there anything in Smith's indictments you take factual exception to?

You democrat cultist aren't allowed to think for yourself. That's a fact this election is proof of that.

 

[berg80]

You democrat cultist aren't allowed to think for yourself. That's a fact this election is proof of that.

Is there anything in Smith's indictments you take factual exception to?

As the Defendant's attempts to obstruct the electoral vote through deceit of state officials met with repeated failure, beginning in early December 2020, he and co-conspirators developed a new plan: to marshal individuals who would have served as the Defendant's electors, had he won the popular vote, in seven targeted states—Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin—and cause those individuals to make and send to the Vice President and Congress false certifications that they were legitimate electors. Under the plan, the submission of these fraudulent slates would create a fake controversy at the certification proceeding and position the Vice President—presiding on January 6 as President of the Senate—to supplant legitimate electors with the Defendant's fake electors and certify the Defendant as president.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Is there anything in Smith's indictments you take factual exception to?

Smith was illegally appointed next.

 

[BackAgain]

In their letter, the prosecutors spoke out against a dismissal, urging the judge to balance the interests of the presidency with “the integrity of the criminal justice system.”

“The people deeply respect the office of the president, are mindful of the demands and obligations of the presidency, and acknowledge that defendant’s inauguration will raise unprecedented legal questions,” the prosecutors wrote. “We also deeply respect the fundamental role of the jury in our constitutional system.”

It is the height of irony and hubris and hypocrisy for those persecutors to even mention “the integrity of the criminal justice system” after they deliberately abused it and shit all over it.

 

[Rawley]

Agree or disagree?

trumples would have us believe Fani Willis is corrupt. Alvin Bragg is corrupt. Judge Lewis Kaplan is corrupt. Letisha James is corrupt. Jack Smith is corrupt. Judge Juan Merchan is corrupt. Judge Tanya Chutkan is corrupt. AG Merrick Garland is corrupt.

Yup

Every member of every grand jury that voted to indict trump and his co-defendants is corrupt.

Ham sandwich

 

[Rawley]

Please specify what you don't think is legitimate.

Any screed that starts with "As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel" is illegitimate

 

[berg80]

You democrat cultist aren't allowed to think for yourself. That's a fact this election is proof of that.

IYO, what is factually incorrect about this excerpt from Smith's indictment?

The plan capitalized on ideas presented in memoranda drafted by Co-Conspirator 5,an attorney who was assisting the Defendant's Campaign with legal efforts related to a recount in Wisconsin. The memoranda evolved over time from a legal strategy to preserve the Defendant's rights to a corrupt plan to subvert the federal government function by stopping Biden electors' votes from being counted and certified, as follows:

 

[berg80]

Yup

Ham sandwich

Do you appreciate how conspiratorial that sounds outside the right wing media ecosystem?

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

You're right, he isn't. I've accepted that he isn't. But that shouldn't stop anyone from acknowledging two things. His prosecutions were conducted for legitimate reasons. And he isn't going to prison because he was found innocent in courts of law.

He isn't going to jail because the cases were bogus.

 

[berg80]

Any screed that starts with "As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel" is illegitimate

Actually, it's not. The author goes on to explain why. But for those like you who look for any excuse not to consider the facts it's easy to stay misinformed.

 

[berg80]

He isn't going to jail because the cases were bogus.

You know that's a lie Bill. For the sake of consistency, since I have you on ignore for abject stupidity on another board, I bid you farewell.

 

[Rawley]

Do you appreciate how conspiratorial that sounds outside the right wing media ecosystem?

Nope. The majority of Americans saw your cult's bullshit lawsuits and re-elected him President.