It is time to end our relationship with Israel

Anti Semites use the excuse that Jews are crying ANTI SEMITISM when it’s only about how Israel ‘s actions. We all know that’s a lie. How many sworn that Israel was involved in 9-11🇮🇱

Fair point. I normally just skip over such comments, becasue those people are clearly completely mad.
 
Fair point. I normally just skip over such comments, becasue those people are clearly completely mad.
I’ve placed a number of them on ignore. They are being paid by antisemitic groups to spread lies and propaganda, and the mod team is very lenient in allowing it. Thus, word has got out that this board is a good venue by which to advance antisemitism.
 
The war needs to end and it will at some point, the sooner the better. Bloody Hamas ruined a peaceful region and did immense damage to their own population in the process while hiding behind citizens.
Who told you who ruined a peaceful region? Palestine was a peaceful region until the emergence of neo-Zionism after WW1, a nationalist and extremist ideology rejected by most Jews at the time.
There are elements within the current Israeli government who many Israelis believe have isolated their nation. They have almost certainly cost Trump a great deal of political capital as he chose to attack Iran, for better or worse. The fact he hit and ran is far better than a full blown war which would have been disasterous to the world. I never thought for a moment that Trump would be interested in such a war so if he in fact decimated Irans nuclear ambitions this was a huge success. The fewer nukes anywhere the better.

All of that said, we need Israel to succeed in the Middle East.
We need Israel to adhere to international law, the same law we expected Iraq to adhere to whom we bombed when it didn't.
True Judaism is important for the world, it is the light and critical to progress within civilization. Some of us may wish to retire in Israel one day, at the very least visit and stay there for awhile.
But Israel is not governed by Judaism as it was in times gone past. It is governed by a political ideology called neo-Zionism, that's why huge numbers of theological Jews are staunchly opposed to it.
The danger is the expansion of those who disregard the principles of Judaism. Either ignorant of the importance of acting as a person of Faith or just dispensing of Faith altogether.
The principles of Judaism in Palestine, prior to the British creating a Jewish colony there after WW1, was to live peacefully with the other cultures that lived there, not force them off their land, burn down their farms and try to expel the from the region.

I suggest you read some history, here's a few recommended starting points:




If you've never actually studied these subjects then it is impossible to understand what we see today. Most of the public who express views here on Palestine are unaware of the history. It is like asking people to sit down and watch the last five minutes of some epic dramatic movie and try to understand the two hours that they missed.

So get yourself a coffee, open your mind so you can be receptive to new knowledge, shut off the jabbering TV news and read.
 
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I’ve placed a number of them on ignore. They are being paid by antisemitic groups to spread lies and propaganda, and the mod team is very lenient in allowing it. Thus, word has got out that this board is a good venue by which to advance antisemitism.
I'm sure the moderators strive to maintain order and ensure the rules are being followed. You seem to think there's a rule somewhere

"Under no circumstances discuss the situation in Palestine/Israel or it's history unless you embrace Zionism".

But there is no such rule, it's clear to many too that there are some here who want to prevent the subject being discussed, they don't often try to defend their position because it's silly to even try in the face of all the historic data.

So instead they try to discredit anyone who disagrees with them, they seek to prevent the free exchange of opinions, they want to suppress opinions they dislike, they want to censor other forum members.

This kind of thing happened in the mid 1930s, where Jews were declared dangerous to the Third Reich, and included the demonization of Jews like:

Karl Marx and Karl Kautsky, but came to include other authors, including Albert Einstein, Helen Keller, Magnus Hirschfeld and the public burning of their books.


This was an organized operation carried out by students with huge support from the Nazi leadership.

The objective is to silence criticism nothing more, that's all the pro-Zionists here seek to do, silence the critics and that's why you even stoop so low as to accuse the moderators of wrong doing while all the time demanding you be granted the right to say whatever you like.
 
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I'm sure the moderators strive to maintain order and ensure the rules are being followed. You seem to think there's a rule somewhere



But there is no such rule, it's clear to many too that there are some here who want to prevent the subject being discussed, they don't often try to defend their position because it's silly to even try in the face of all the historic data.

So instead they try to discredit anyone who disagrees with them, they seek to prevent the free exchange of opinions, they want to suppress opinions they dislike, they want to censor other forum members.

This kind of thing happened in the mid 1930s, where Jews were declared dangerous to the Third Reich, and included the demonization of Jews like:




This was an organized operation carried out by students with huge support from the Nazi leadership.

The objective is to silence criticism nothing more, that's all the pro-Zionists here seek to do, silence the critics and that's why you even stoop so low as to accuse the moderators of wrong doing while all the time demanding you be granted the right to say whatever you like.
I wonder if Israel will kill these people attempting to stop the genocide, then say ops we’re sorry or hey they were all Hamas?
 
I wonder if Israel will kill these people attempting to stop the genocide, then say ops we’re sorry or hey they were all Hamas?

Terrifying thought, I suspect that if they did, there'd be a loud of applause from some in this forum.
 
I wonder if Israel will kill these people attempting to stop the genocide, then say ops we’re sorry or hey they were all Hamas?


Idiots playing games in a war zone?

I don't care what happens to them.
 
I suspect that there are some in Israel who openly talk of "just blow up these terrorist supporting boats", the Israelis tried to sink the USS Liberty in 1967, killed quite a few patriotic American servicemen and nothing was done, it was just pushed aside and described as a "tragic mistake" so if any boats in the flotilla were sunk I'd expect nothing would really happen, I mean if you can bomb and try to sink a US Navy warship and be allowed to walk away from the most powerful military nation in the world, sinking a few civilian boats is nothing.
 
I suspect that there are some in Israel who openly talk of "just blow up these terrorist supporting boats", the Israelis tried to sink the USS Liberty in 1967, killed quite a few patriotic American servicemen and nothing was done, it was just pushed aside and described as a "tragic mistake" so if any boats in the flotilla were sunk I'd expect nothing would really happen, I mean if you can bomb and try to sink a US Navy warship and be allowed to walk away from the most powerful military nation in the world, sinking a few civilian boats is nothing.

Wow. 1967? You really are holding on to every straw you can, to justify your support of HAMAS and all the other anti-Americans in the world.
 
Wow. 1967? You really are holding on to every straw you can, to justify your support of HAMAS and all the other anti-Americans in the world.
Why am I not surprised that in the face of facts ad-hominem and strawmen are your tools of choice.
 
Why am I not surprised that in the face of facts ad-hominem and strawmen are your tools of choice.

The fact is that you are reaching all the way back to 1967, to justify your siding with a group of cowardly, vile mass murderers.
 
The fact is that you are reaching all the way back to 1967, to justify your siding with a group of cowardly, vile mass murderers.
On the contrary it is the neo-Zionists who like to "reach all the way back" to 1000 BC to justify their greater Israel project and the accompanying ethnic cleansing and theft of land and destruction of Arab farms.
 
On the contrary it is the neo-Zionists who like to "reach all the way back" to 1000 BC to justify their greater Israel project and the accompanying ethnic cleansing and theft of land and destruction of Arab farms.

In your mind, which is a bigger factor in deciding the right and wrong of a war,

who held land first, or a single attack?
 
Neither, it is international law as defined by the United Nations.


1. So, why did you cite an attack from nearly 60 years ago? You know that everyone in charge at the time of that attack, are dead from old age?

2. Wow. You respect the moral authority of the UN? Incredible. Absolutely incredible. If you could, please explain your...reasoning for that.
 
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1. So, why did you cite an attack from nearly 60 years ago? You know that everyone in charge at the time of that attack, are dead from old age?
I was discussing the civilian flotilla with gipper and how the attack on USS Liberty serves as an example of how Israel often acts with impunity, so if it did shoot at or sink one of the civilian vessels I'd not be shocked and no action would be taken against them.
2. Wow. You respect the moral authority of the UN? Incredible. Absolutely incredible. If you could, please explain your...reasoning for that.
Yes, almost every nation is a UN member and has ratified the charter including Israel. Therefore they have voluntarily agreed to comply with said charter. It is those members that give the UN any authority and that's the basis for my position.
 
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I’ve placed a number of them on ignore. They are being paid by antisemitic groups to spread lies and propaganda, and the mod team is very lenient in allowing it. Thus, word has got out that this board is a good venue by which to advance antisemitism.

They’re also incapable of critical thinking.

It’s like a script they’re all reading from. The same mantra repeated over and over……
 
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