It is Not Over

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The problem is that most of Trump's lies were of little consequence, mere exaggerations, his style of speaking from selling a product as a CEO. Just one of Obama's lies equaled 10,000 Trump lies. Right in line with Hillary and I see now how Biden is shaping up.
Trump’s lie about the election being stolen resulted in a riot at the Capitol and the deaths of 5 people.
 

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  • There are 81 court cases to date based on the 2020 election
  • In 45 cases President Trump was the plaintiff
  • In 34 cases President Trump is not the plaintiff
  • In 2 cases President Trump is the defendant
  • In 72 cases illegal voting is alleged
  • In ZERO of the 72 cases where illegal voting is alleged has evidence been allowed to be presented
  • 30 cases remain active
Saying there was no fraud is not doing any good. People are going to fight until the evidence is heard.


And now we know the courts didn’t allow a single instance of evidence of fraud to be presented to date.
Americans are livid with the actions that took place in the 2020 election and believe the election was stolen. There are numerous reasons for this.
You didn't review each case on the gateway pundits list....

Click on the case, it brings you to the actual complaint and the reason by the judge it was rejected and dismissed.

And not only dismissed or rejected the Trump claims in one state court, but the exact same claim in around 10 state courts, and each of those judges in all of those states, independently, rejected the accusations for lack of actual evidence e or standing or basically, because they offered only speculation that absentee voting illegally diluted the votes of in person voters....

A stupid stupid stupid claim, in the first place.

So far, for the 15 or so cases I went through

NONE ZERO ZIP ZILCH
are about any voter fraud.

Not by a Biden or by Democratic voters or by any form of illegality.... Basically They just claim they don't like absentee voting, because it dilutes the way their voters have chosen to vote, in person....
Just utterly ridiculous shit.
 
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  • There are 81 court cases to date based on the 2020 election
  • In 45 cases President Trump was the plaintiff
  • In 34 cases President Trump is not the plaintiff
  • In 2 cases President Trump is the defendant
  • In 72 cases illegal voting is alleged
  • In ZERO of the 72 cases where illegal voting is alleged has evidence been allowed to be presented
  • 30 cases remain active
Saying there was no fraud is not doing any good. People are going to fight until the evidence is heard.


And now we know the courts didn’t allow a single instance of evidence of fraud to be presented to date.
Americans are livid with the actions that took place in the 2020 election and believe the election was stolen. There are numerous reasons for this.
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There was massive fraud. Trolling will not change that fact. I do realize that is all you got. I recognize just how limited you are. When are you going to?
Sit here and laugh at you.
 

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  • There are 81 court cases to date based on the 2020 election
  • In 45 cases President Trump was the plaintiff
  • In 34 cases President Trump is not the plaintiff
  • In 2 cases President Trump is the defendant
  • In 72 cases illegal voting is alleged
  • In ZERO of the 72 cases where illegal voting is alleged has evidence been allowed to be presented
  • 30 cases remain active
Saying there was no fraud is not doing any good. People are going to fight until the evidence is heard.
Look . . . I am just as pissed off about the 2020 presidential election as any patriotic American. That being said, what is over is the Trump presidency. No court decision is going to put Trump back in the Oval Office. No judge anywhere, at any level is going to get involved in that kind of business, the business of potentially cracking the foundation of our civilization. So what good then can come out of these cases? The time for Trump to act was when he still wielded the full power of the POTUS. He to act, not to hold the election again and now he's out and corpse Biden is in.

But no one should miss how deeply they fear Trump and his resonance in America, as it can be seen in their attempts to smear and imprison him.
Sure Jumbo.

I fear your fellow blob in the same way you fear your third cupcake. He's never gotten more votes than any democrat he's gone against. Please bring him back in 2024 and waddle to his rallies. Nothing is better for the democrats than having your malignant blob ripping the GOP apart.
 

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The problem is that most of Trump's lies were of little consequence, mere exaggerations, his style of speaking from selling a product as a CEO. Just one of Obama's lies equaled 10,000 Trump lies. Right in line with Hillary and I see now how Biden is shaping up.
Huh? Little consequences? Go drink a bottle of draino to cure yourself of COVID and see how it works.
And you know what, even if they were 'exaggerations' (and plenty weren't), maybe he should have acted like an adult and worked on his delivery. Just like first impressions, delivery matters.
 

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What truth? Where is it? Lay it on the table! I'm a logician, a rational man. Show me this truth and the evidence to back it up and I'll follow you anywhere.
Erm...accusation 101: The person making the accusation has to prove their assertion.

It's such a basic concept that when it comes to court proceedings those doing the prosecuting have to prove the guilt of the other party. The other party doesn't have to prove their innocence.

You Deplorables are the ones making the accusation. Off you go, now prove them.
 

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  • There are 81 court cases to date based on the 2020 election
  • In 45 cases President Trump was the plaintiff
  • In 34 cases President Trump is not the plaintiff
  • In 2 cases President Trump is the defendant
  • In 72 cases illegal voting is alleged
  • In ZERO of the 72 cases where illegal voting is alleged has evidence been allowed to be presented
  • 30 cases remain active
Saying there was no fraud is not doing any good. People are going to fight until the evidence is heard.


And now we know the courts didn’t allow a single instance of evidence of fraud to be presented to date.
Americans are livid with the actions that took place in the 2020 election and believe the election was stolen. There are numerous reasons for this.
Gateway Pundit?????
Do you expect CNN or ABC or NPR or CBS or NBC to report this?
 

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  • There are 81 court cases to date based on the 2020 election
  • In 45 cases President Trump was the plaintiff
  • In 34 cases President Trump is not the plaintiff
  • In 2 cases President Trump is the defendant
  • In 72 cases illegal voting is alleged
  • In ZERO of the 72 cases where illegal voting is alleged has evidence been allowed to be presented
  • 30 cases remain active
Saying there was no fraud is not doing any good. People are going to fight until the evidence is heard.


And now we know the courts didn’t allow a single instance of evidence of fraud to be presented to date.
Americans are livid with the actions that took place in the 2020 election and believe the election was stolen. There are numerous reasons for this.

The gateway pundit?

LOL.

Keep deluding yourself.
 

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  • There are 81 court cases to date based on the 2020 election
  • In 45 cases President Trump was the plaintiff
  • In 34 cases President Trump is not the plaintiff
  • In 2 cases President Trump is the defendant
  • In 72 cases illegal voting is alleged
  • In ZERO of the 72 cases where illegal voting is alleged has evidence been allowed to be presented
  • 30 cases remain active
Saying there was no fraud is not doing any good. People are going to fight until the evidence is heard.


And now we know the courts didn’t allow a single instance of evidence of fraud to be presented to date.
Americans are livid with the actions that took place in the 2020 election and believe the election was stolen. There are numerous reasons for this.
Dude, it's over.

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  • There are 81 court cases to date based on the 2020 election
  • In 45 cases President Trump was the plaintiff
  • In 34 cases President Trump is not the plaintiff
  • In 2 cases President Trump is the defendant
  • In 72 cases illegal voting is alleged
  • In ZERO of the 72 cases where illegal voting is alleged has evidence been allowed to be presented
  • 30 cases remain active
Saying there was no fraud is not doing any good. People are going to fight until the evidence is heard.


And now we know the courts didn’t allow a single instance of evidence of fraud to be presented to date.
Americans are livid with the actions that took place in the 2020 election and believe the election was stolen. There are numerous reasons for this.
Dude, it's over.

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Is that Hunter's? It will never be over. There was massive fraud.
 

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It couldn't be MORE over. There will be no over turning. There is nothing left to do. It's done.

Tell us...besides a lot of whining...what do you expect to happen. Be specific.
 

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  • There are 81 court cases to date based on the 2020 election
  • In 45 cases President Trump was the plaintiff
  • In 34 cases President Trump is not the plaintiff
  • In 2 cases President Trump is the defendant
  • In 72 cases illegal voting is alleged
  • In ZERO of the 72 cases where illegal voting is alleged has evidence been allowed to be presented
  • 30 cases remain active
Saying there was no fraud is not doing any good. People are going to fight until the evidence is heard.


And now we know the courts didn’t allow a single instance of evidence of fraud to be presented to date.
Americans are livid with the actions that took place in the 2020 election and believe the election was stolen. There are numerous reasons for this.
Dude, it's over.

View attachment 448158
Is that Hunter's? It will never be over. There was massive fraud.
No, it's yours. It's over.
 
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  • There are 81 court cases to date based on the 2020 election
  • In 45 cases President Trump was the plaintiff
  • In 34 cases President Trump is not the plaintiff
  • In 2 cases President Trump is the defendant
  • In 72 cases illegal voting is alleged
  • In ZERO of the 72 cases where illegal voting is alleged has evidence been allowed to be presented
  • 30 cases remain active
Saying there was no fraud is not doing any good. People are going to fight until the evidence is heard.


And now we know the courts didn’t allow a single instance of evidence of fraud to be presented to date.
Americans are livid with the actions that took place in the 2020 election and believe the election was stolen. There are numerous reasons for this.
Dude, it's over.

View attachment 448158
Is that Hunter's? It will never be over. There was massive fraud.
No, it's yours. It's over.
It is over, and there was massive fraud. Both are true. Deal with it.
 

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Since I had enough brains not to vote for either candidate well if it's not over or if it is....k Suh rah Suh rah whatever will be will be. It makes zero difference in the end. But you keep fighting that fight because it really matters. (Trying hard to contain my laughter).
Oh, please! You didn't even try! The term is "que sera sera".
 

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  • There are 81 court cases to date based on the 2020 election
  • In 45 cases President Trump was the plaintiff
  • In 34 cases President Trump is not the plaintiff
  • In 2 cases President Trump is the defendant
  • In 72 cases illegal voting is alleged
  • In ZERO of the 72 cases where illegal voting is alleged has evidence been allowed to be presented
  • 30 cases remain active
Saying there was no fraud is not doing any good. People are going to fight until the evidence is heard.


And now we know the courts didn’t allow a single instance of evidence of fraud to be presented to date.
Americans are livid with the actions that took place in the 2020 election and believe the election was stolen. There are numerous reasons for this.
Well it is important how but it is important on how you frame fraud. Is it a matter of a few cases or major fraud in the thousands. It also which side of the political spectrum who committed fraud. Trump lawyers did not even claim voter fraud in most of the cases. They were more of a challenge to procedures at the state level.

Voter fraud happens and the heritage foundation keep good records. Still it is to small for it to matter in a national election. It also happens on both sides. Yet they get caught.

Vote fraud still has to be proven in a court of law. As more than half the cases have been thrown out.

So if people want to hang their hat on voter fraud based on two digit numbers and happening in local or state elections then get excited about it.

If people want to claim massive voter fraud that caused Trump the election then take it court and prove it.

Repeating it over and over amongst others is just delusional. Take it to court and accept the verdict.

Opinions only matter in a court of law when it required deliberations and hearing both sides of the story. A final judgment is made and then it is time to go home or appeal it to the next level.
Which court case heard evidence? Not a damned one!
 

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Saying there was no fraud is not doing any good. People are going to fight until the evidence is heard.
So what good then can come out of these cases?
What good? For GOD'S SAKE, man, your government has been seized by an illegal coup, and your answer is that the election is over so just let them stay in power even if it proven they don't belong? Do you think they've done all of this for altruistic reasons??? :banghead:
You are missing my point by a mile, which is to say what remedies remain for changing or reversing the outcome? Do you believe any court in our land can remove Biden and reinstall Donald Trump? What good guys remain to prove anything to? I am certainly not saying "let them stay in power", however, I am saying, "What the hell can we do about it?" No one I'm aware of has organized patriots under a centralized command. No minutemen exist. No good guys remain. I just hate to see good Americans stuck in some fantasy loop believing Trump is going to magically reappear in the White House and make everything fine and dandy again.

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What remedies do we really have? In the practical world as it stands today, I'd say virtual zero. For now. That there could be serious, credible questions about an election brought by the highest levels of government, the executive office itself and be told over and over that it did not have standing, that media giants like Twitter could claim the executive office was spreading "disinformation" as if they KNEW BETTER than the POTUS, then to block and ban the PRESIDENT from speaking to the country goes beyond THE FUCKING PALE that our media have gotten far too corrupt and powerful that they can no longer be trusted with the power of the "press" and must be brought down, that this country has a lurking cancer under the surface that the American people have somehow grown blind and numb to, that the democrats have succeeded in painting both him and the millions who vote for him as somehow damaged, evil, dangerous, now being perpetuated by the man who replaced him ON THE DAY PUT IN OFFICE UNDER THE GUISE OF "UNITY" is perhaps the most twisted, dangerous thing this country has ever faced. The most dangerous thing this world has seen since the days of the German Nazi movement.

The real movement of concern here isn't Trump, a man who built his election and administration on returning the power to the people and making America work for them, it is the movement to OPPOSE HIM: to try to paint him and that as a dangerous movement.

What can be done in the theoretical world?
  1. Efforts remain to press forward with getting the evidence out there. How many years did it take just to prosecute OJ Simpson? It is insanity to think an election could be so corrupted on so wide a scale and be exposed and prosecuted in just the few short weeks given by "our system." That our system, faced with such questions, would even impose such brief limits rather than stop everything to ensure this was all sorted out before a presidency changed hands speaks volumes. What could be more important than to get a national election right, rather than saying, "Oh well, times up, we have to move on!" Especially when it was the courts themselves who were dragging their feet! What if a year from now it is PROVEN that Biden cheated to win. Constitutionally, that must invalidate his office and remove him and undo everything he has done. Trump must be put back in office and a new election with a new opponent must be held. The election itself must be scrutinized and fixed. But there is far too much corruption to actually expect that. But that revelation might at least force SOMETHING, and might at least force a revamping of our election laws.
  2. Short of that, I see no other option than at some point the 90 million gun owners holding 300 million guns and a trillion rounds of ammunition finally get fed up and rise up with the military and police and take back their country---- a civil revolution. Put another way, the federal government is really 435 people! C'mon! Is this crazy talk? Is such a thing possible? Time will tell. Things have actually gotten that bad. It was all brought about by having so ridiculous an election with so many GLARING questions that democrats would NEVER accept if done to them by the GOP or Trump, then to have it all swept under the rug and told that there "is nothing to see here, just move on." All I can say is that such uprisings and revolutions HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE, the people HAVE THAT POWER and we just witnessed something like that on a small scale just a few weeks ago.
It's in the hands of the people now whether to live under benign socialist tyranny or to face the pain of all out civil war to take back their country, their press, their schools, and restore the representative republic the Founders intended. Will this be the age that America finally falls to abject servitude and apathy, or will it be the age of the American Reformation? My guess is that the Tytler Cycle will be followed, and once things get bad enough, things will finally get better again.
 

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The problem is that most of Trump's lies were of little consequence, mere exaggerations, his style of speaking from selling a product as a CEO. Just one of Obama's lies equaled 10,000 Trump lies. Right in line with Hillary and I see now how Biden is shaping up.
Huh? Little consequences? Go drink a bottle of draino to cure yourself of COVID and see how it works.
And you know what, even if they were 'exaggerations' (and plenty weren't), maybe he should have acted like an adult and worked on his delivery. Just like first impressions, delivery matters.

Little consequence. Trump claiming he had the biggest inauguration (he almost did!) pales in comparison to lying to the nation that they could keep their insurance and doctor and even save $2500--- just TRUST US. Or that Biden has ANY intention to actually unifying and representing all of America.
 

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  • There are 81 court cases to date based on the 2020 election
  • In 45 cases President Trump was the plaintiff
  • In 34 cases President Trump is not the plaintiff
  • In 2 cases President Trump is the defendant
  • In 72 cases illegal voting is alleged
  • In ZERO of the 72 cases where illegal voting is alleged has evidence been allowed to be presented
  • 30 cases remain active
Saying there was no fraud is not doing any good. People are going to fight until the evidence is heard.


And now we know the courts didn’t allow a single instance of evidence of fraud to be presented to date.
Americans are livid with the actions that took place in the 2020 election and believe the election was stolen. There are numerous reasons for this.
No evidence of fraud was presented. This is really simple.
 

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