It is better to have dead victims than to fail women who can't pass firefighter test...

[Ravi]

Link to prove males aren't allowed to retake the test.

You ever been through a police or fire academy? Most don't give retests. ....especially on critical topics. But for diversity hires....it's becoming common practice.

I could tell you stories. You wouldn't believe them because you don't want to admit it.

Example- My former agency had a shooting qualification test consisting of 60 rounds with a pistol, various stages. You took it at the academy after 2 weeks of firearms training. You were allowed ONE retest. Fail 2x and you pack your crap and go home.

Well....a particular day there we tested a special recruit. She checked off 3 very desirable diversity boxes.

She failed. Twice. Class was released for the day. But not her. She stayed. We went through maybe 1500 rounds of ammo at least. She repeated the course at least 20 times....failed miserably. But by God....they were getting this recruit through. We "needed" more Iike her.

Finally....I saw the range master having to make the range "cold" for a Captain who had a pencil and wanted to walk down range to her target. Saw him poking some holes in it. Brought her target back and said "You passed." And she left the range and continued through the academy. Head range master was irate afterwards and refused to sign her qual sheet. Captain left with it. Someone signed it or forged it I'm sure.

Shit Iike that happens countless times a day all over America's police and fire deportments.

And guess what!!?? Coming soon to the military!!!!!!

I don't care about your stupid bullshit. Give me a link that says that males don't get to retry the running test.

 

[Searcher44]

And here we have the left and their inability to understand truth, facts and reality, and their willingness to get people killed in order to satisfy their illness, which I have called "Reality Dyslexia."

New York Fire Department Gives Woman Seventh Chance On Running Test

The Fire Academy allowed Tapia to graduate in 2013 even though she muffed the relatively modest requirement to run 1.5 miles in 12 minutes. Prospective firefighters unlucky enough to have a phallus normally flunk out if they fail that test.

After clocking in most recently at just over 12 minutes, Tapia was assigned to light duty at FDNY headquarters and then to a Queens firehouse. She never actually worked a shift and seems to have spent most of her time trying to pass the test. But she failed again and again and again and again and again.

How far are they willing to drop standards in order to impose their screwed up view of reality on the world.....this far.....

Nigro has loosened the standards to allow prospective firefighters to graduate from the academy even if they failed a rigorous “functional skills test,” which required them to run an obstacle course while wearing an oxygen tank and completing job-related tasks. Now, good grades can compensate for failing to demonstrate basic firefighting abilities, like running up six flights of stairs and raising a latter.

Gee, that is reassuring. The woman firefighter who arrives at your burning building might not be able to climb up the stairs to rescue you. But she can have an intelligent conversation with residents who managed to escape outside.


Wow....can't wait to see what they have to do to gedescisiont women into the infantry in the Army and Marines......

Why Why Why do you try to pin this NYFD decision on the "left"? I don't know one left-of-center friend or acquaintance who would want a fire department's physical qualifications ignored or weakened or turned a blind eye to just so a female could be "passed". And that goes for PD's or infantry or any security position where superior physical strength and stamina is obviously a job requirement. We don't have a death wish. Sure, most of us support affirmative action in one form or another but most of us are smart enough not to want it applied in a life and death situation. From your link it's obvious it was mistakes from the right that are driving this nonsense. Start with the fact that the NY Fire Department Chief is controlling these policy decisions not some far out lefty bureaucrat. I have to go out right now, I'll finish my thoughts off when I get back if I'm still motivated. If you re-read your link you could probably figure out where I'm going with this.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Basically......physical fitness requirements for st responder and military occupations ought to be met before a person is permitted to serve.

That idea is not opposed by liberals. The nutbags who are outraged by this "news" story can't go a minute without trying to tag their superiors with some label.

Are there women who can and do make excellent firefighters? Yes. Is it wise to evaluate testing procedures to ensure that they are not designed to exclude women? Sure. Are there male firefighters who are currently employed but could not pass the running test described in the article? Yes. Should these men be fired? Not necessarily.

Earmuffs.

 

[martybegan]

Link to prove males aren't allowed to retake the test.

You ever been through a police or fire academy? Most don't give retests. ....especially on critical topics. But for diversity hires....it's becoming common practice.

I could tell you stories. You wouldn't believe them because you don't want to admit it.

Example- My former agency had a shooting qualification test consisting of 60 rounds with a pistol, various stages. You took it at the academy after 2 weeks of firearms training. You were allowed ONE retest. Fail 2x and you pack your crap and go home.

Well....a particular day there we tested a special recruit. She checked off 3 very desirable diversity boxes.

She failed. Twice. Class was released for the day. But not her. She stayed. We went through maybe 1500 rounds of ammo at least. She repeated the course at least 20 times....failed miserably. But by God....they were getting this recruit through. We "needed" more Iike her.

Finally....I saw the range master having to make the range "cold" for a Captain who had a pencil and wanted to walk down range to her target. Saw him poking some holes in it. Brought her target back and said "You passed." And she left the range and continued through the academy. Head range master was irate afterwards and refused to sign her qual sheet. Captain left with it. Someone signed it or forged it I'm sure.

Shit Iike that happens countless times a day all over America's police and fire deportments.

And guess what!!?? Coming soon to the military!!!!!!

I don't care about your stupid bullshit. Give me a link that says that males don't get to retry the running test.

A more accurate question would be if a man would get 7 re-tries on a given test part.

 

[Ravi]

Link to prove males aren't allowed to retake the test.

You ever been through a police or fire academy? Most don't give retests. ....especially on critical topics. But for diversity hires....it's becoming common practice.

I could tell you stories. You wouldn't believe them because you don't want to admit it.

Example- My former agency had a shooting qualification test consisting of 60 rounds with a pistol, various stages. You took it at the academy after 2 weeks of firearms training. You were allowed ONE retest. Fail 2x and you pack your crap and go home.

Well....a particular day there we tested a special recruit. She checked off 3 very desirable diversity boxes.

She failed. Twice. Class was released for the day. But not her. She stayed. We went through maybe 1500 rounds of ammo at least. She repeated the course at least 20 times....failed miserably. But by God....they were getting this recruit through. We "needed" more Iike her.

Finally....I saw the range master having to make the range "cold" for a Captain who had a pencil and wanted to walk down range to her target. Saw him poking some holes in it. Brought her target back and said "You passed." And she left the range and continued through the academy. Head range master was irate afterwards and refused to sign her qual sheet. Captain left with it. Someone signed it or forged it I'm sure.

Shit Iike that happens countless times a day all over America's police and fire deportments.

And guess what!!?? Coming soon to the military!!!!!!

I don't care about your stupid bullshit. Give me a link that says that males don't get to retry the running test.

A more accurate question would be if a man would get 7 re-tries on a given test part.

I bet he would.

 

[TNHarley]

We must be "fair"(Marxist definition. Not the actual one). Even if it means the literal death of us.
Dumbfuck limp wrists

 

[martybegan]

Link to prove males aren't allowed to retake the test.

You ever been through a police or fire academy? Most don't give retests. ....especially on critical topics. But for diversity hires....it's becoming common practice.

I could tell you stories. You wouldn't believe them because you don't want to admit it.

Example- My former agency had a shooting qualification test consisting of 60 rounds with a pistol, various stages. You took it at the academy after 2 weeks of firearms training. You were allowed ONE retest. Fail 2x and you pack your crap and go home.

Well....a particular day there we tested a special recruit. She checked off 3 very desirable diversity boxes.

She failed. Twice. Class was released for the day. But not her. She stayed. We went through maybe 1500 rounds of ammo at least. She repeated the course at least 20 times....failed miserably. But by God....they were getting this recruit through. We "needed" more Iike her.

Finally....I saw the range master having to make the range "cold" for a Captain who had a pencil and wanted to walk down range to her target. Saw him poking some holes in it. Brought her target back and said "You passed." And she left the range and continued through the academy. Head range master was irate afterwards and refused to sign her qual sheet. Captain left with it. Someone signed it or forged it I'm sure.

Shit Iike that happens countless times a day all over America's police and fire deportments.

And guess what!!?? Coming soon to the military!!!!!!

I don't care about your stupid bullshit. Give me a link that says that males don't get to retry the running test.

A more accurate question would be if a man would get 7 re-tries on a given test part.

I bet he would.

NOW who's assuming things without any backup?

Hypocrite much?

 

[Unkotare]

Women are so stupid. They belong in the kitchen. Right cons?

They don't belong in a construction site or a battlefield, and they don't belong anywhere where physical strength is required to save a life.

You probably don't either, in that case.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Women are so stupid. They belong in the kitchen. Right cons?

No, women belong anywhere THEY CAN MEET THE JOB REQUIREMENTS.

My vagina is not a disability or a birth defect, and I am sick and tired of being told need "special consideration" because it makes me too defective to compete on a level playing field. If I can't do it, then I fucking don't do it, and I don't like being pitied as a victim, thank you so very much.

 

[Ravi]

Link to prove males aren't allowed to retake the test.

You ever been through a police or fire academy? Most don't give retests. ....especially on critical topics. But for diversity hires....it's becoming common practice.

I could tell you stories. You wouldn't believe them because you don't want to admit it.

Example- My former agency had a shooting qualification test consisting of 60 rounds with a pistol, various stages. You took it at the academy after 2 weeks of firearms training. You were allowed ONE retest. Fail 2x and you pack your crap and go home.

Well....a particular day there we tested a special recruit. She checked off 3 very desirable diversity boxes.

She failed. Twice. Class was released for the day. But not her. She stayed. We went through maybe 1500 rounds of ammo at least. She repeated the course at least 20 times....failed miserably. But by God....they were getting this recruit through. We "needed" more Iike her.

Finally....I saw the range master having to make the range "cold" for a Captain who had a pencil and wanted to walk down range to her target. Saw him poking some holes in it. Brought her target back and said "You passed." And she left the range and continued through the academy. Head range master was irate afterwards and refused to sign her qual sheet. Captain left with it. Someone signed it or forged it I'm sure.

Shit Iike that happens countless times a day all over America's police and fire deportments.

And guess what!!?? Coming soon to the military!!!!!!

I don't care about your stupid bullshit. Give me a link that says that males don't get to retry the running test.

A more accurate question would be if a man would get 7 re-tries on a given test part.

I bet he would.

NOW who's assuming things without any backup?

Hypocrite much?

Have a tissue Marty, and may your new year be less stressful than 2015.

 

[Cecilie1200]

If men can't pass the test, standards should not be lower for women

If you change standards then there should be limits of what jobs women can have. Driving the truck, putting equipment in and out. Public education. Duties in the station. Office/radio calls and communication. If they can't carry the hose, use and ax to break a wall or carry a man down stairs, she has no business in the heat of the fire.

The fire won't lessen it's severity because the one fighting it is a female.

My house catches fire and I end up with a fractured skull and concussion because some dimwitted skirt HAD to be a firefighter and had to drag me down the stairs because she couldn't put me in a fireman's carry like a man could have, I'm suing.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Link to prove males aren't allowed to retake the test.

You ever been through a police or fire academy? Most don't give retests. ....especially on critical topics. But for diversity hires....it's becoming common practice.

I could tell you stories. You wouldn't believe them because you don't want to admit it.

Example- My former agency had a shooting qualification test consisting of 60 rounds with a pistol, various stages. You took it at the academy after 2 weeks of firearms training. You were allowed ONE retest. Fail 2x and you pack your crap and go home.

Well....a particular day there we tested a special recruit. She checked off 3 very desirable diversity boxes.

She failed. Twice. Class was released for the day. But not her. She stayed. We went through maybe 1500 rounds of ammo at least. She repeated the course at least 20 times....failed miserably. But by God....they were getting this recruit through. We "needed" more Iike her.

Finally....I saw the range master having to make the range "cold" for a Captain who had a pencil and wanted to walk down range to her target. Saw him poking some holes in it. Brought her target back and said "You passed." And she left the range and continued through the academy. Head range master was irate afterwards and refused to sign her qual sheet. Captain left with it. Someone signed it or forged it I'm sure.

Shit Iike that happens countless times a day all over America's police and fire deportments.

And guess what!!?? Coming soon to the military!!!!!!

I don't care about your stupid bullshit. Give me a link that says that males don't get to retry the running test.

A more accurate question would be if a man would get 7 re-tries on a given test part.

Generally, these organizations don't give re-tries at all . . . except to affirmative action, diversity hires.

 

[Unkotare]

If men can't pass the test, standards should not be lower for women

If you change standards then there should be limits of what jobs women can have. Driving the truck, putting equipment in and out. Public education. Duties in the station. Office/radio calls and communication. If they can't carry the hose, use and ax to break a wall or carry a man down stairs, she has no business in the heat of the fire.

The fire won't lessen it's severity because the one fighting it is a female.

My house catches fire and I end up with a fractured skull and concussion because some dimwitted skirt HAD to be a firefighter and had to drag me down the stairs because she couldn't put me in a fireman's carry like a man could have, I'm suing.

Are you from NYC?

 

[martybegan]

You ever been through a police or fire academy? Most don't give retests. ....especially on critical topics. But for diversity hires....it's becoming common practice.

I could tell you stories. You wouldn't believe them because you don't want to admit it.

Example- My former agency had a shooting qualification test consisting of 60 rounds with a pistol, various stages. You took it at the academy after 2 weeks of firearms training. You were allowed ONE retest. Fail 2x and you pack your crap and go home.

Well....a particular day there we tested a special recruit. She checked off 3 very desirable diversity boxes.

She failed. Twice. Class was released for the day. But not her. She stayed. We went through maybe 1500 rounds of ammo at least. She repeated the course at least 20 times....failed miserably. But by God....they were getting this recruit through. We "needed" more Iike her.

Finally....I saw the range master having to make the range "cold" for a Captain who had a pencil and wanted to walk down range to her target. Saw him poking some holes in it. Brought her target back and said "You passed." And she left the range and continued through the academy. Head range master was irate afterwards and refused to sign her qual sheet. Captain left with it. Someone signed it or forged it I'm sure.

Shit Iike that happens countless times a day all over America's police and fire deportments.

And guess what!!?? Coming soon to the military!!!!!!

I don't care about your stupid bullshit. Give me a link that says that males don't get to retry the running test.

A more accurate question would be if a man would get 7 re-tries on a given test part.

I bet he would.

NOW who's assuming things without any backup?

Hypocrite much?

Have a tissue Marty, and may your new year be less stressful than 2015.

Sorry you don't like being called out for your hackery, u mad bro?

 

[Conservative65]

If men can't pass the test, standards should not be lower for women

If you change standards then there should be limits of what jobs women can have. Driving the truck, putting equipment in and out. Public education. Duties in the station. Office/radio calls and communication. If they can't carry the hose, use and ax to break a wall or carry a man down stairs, she has no business in the heat of the fire.

The fire won't lessen it's severity because the one fighting it is a female.

My house catches fire and I end up with a fractured skull and concussion because some dimwitted skirt HAD to be a firefighter and had to drag me down the stairs because she couldn't put me in a fireman's carry like a man could have, I'm suing.

Are you from NYC?

Are you saying only NYC hires female firefighters?

 

[Unkotare]

If men can't pass the test, standards should not be lower for women

If you change standards then there should be limits of what jobs women can have. Driving the truck, putting equipment in and out. Public education. Duties in the station. Office/radio calls and communication. If they can't carry the hose, use and ax to break a wall or carry a man down stairs, she has no business in the heat of the fire.

The fire won't lessen it's severity because the one fighting it is a female.

My house catches fire and I end up with a fractured skull and concussion because some dimwitted skirt HAD to be a firefighter and had to drag me down the stairs because she couldn't put me in a fireman's carry like a man could have, I'm suing.

Are you from NYC?

Are you saying only NYC hires female firefighters?

Did you get hit in the head with a large object recently?

 

[Conservative65]

If men can't pass the test, standards should not be lower for women

If you change standards then there should be limits of what jobs women can have. Driving the truck, putting equipment in and out. Public education. Duties in the station. Office/radio calls and communication. If they can't carry the hose, use and ax to break a wall or carry a man down stairs, she has no business in the heat of the fire.

The fire won't lessen it's severity because the one fighting it is a female.

My house catches fire and I end up with a fractured skull and concussion because some dimwitted skirt HAD to be a firefighter and had to drag me down the stairs because she couldn't put me in a fireman's carry like a man could have, I'm suing.

Are you from NYC?

Are you saying only NYC hires female firefighters?

Did you get hit in the head with a large object recently?

Still refuse to answer questions I see.

 

[S.J.]

Women are so stupid. They belong in the kitchen. Right cons?

They don't belong in a construction site or a battlefield, and they don't belong anywhere where physical strength is required to save a life.

They belong there as long as they can pass the same test, and meet the same qualifications as the men taking the test.

Which they can't.

 

[martybegan]

Women are so stupid. They belong in the kitchen. Right cons?

They don't belong in a construction site or a battlefield, and they don't belong anywhere where physical strength is required to save a life.

They belong there as long as they can pass the same test, and meet the same qualifications as the men taking the test.

Which they can't.

Some of them probably can, but to pump up the numbers, the powers that be love to fudge the results to get more "appropriate" results.

 

[mudwhistle]

I think all standards should be based on a diversity test.

Every sports team now needs to have a set number of blacks, whites, Hispanics, Orientals, etc, to fill their rosters. Hang performance standards. They just get in the way of fairness and are damaging to the self-esteem of specific sheltered groups in the Democrat party.