Israel's war crimes

[P F Tinmore]

The Israelis aren't barbaric?
Shooting into crowds?

The Israelis aren't genocidal?
Over 90,000 Arabs / Palestinians killed since the conflict began.

The Israelis aren't taking many people's lands?
Golan Heights is Syria, and the West Bank is partially Palestinian, and partially Jordanian.

Can we call Israel Nazi lite?

You count in this 90K Egypt military soldiers and Syrian soldier etc...
Israel does not shoot on a civilian to kill civilians.
It was a war and In war, ppl die to surprise you? new for you that in wars ppl die?
Maybe the Palestinian and stop this war and no more ppl will die?
How many ppl killed in Syria? Hundreds of thousands in 7 years and no one says anything...
while Israel killed Tens of thousands in more than 70 years for an act of defending its border...

Maybe you wish for the Israelians to go and kill themselves by drowning in the sea.
But guess what? it is not going to happen, we will fight for are life and we will win like in the past

Maybe the Palestinian and stop this war and no more ppl will die?

It is Israel's war.

Hardly. The Palestinians know that Israel isn’t going to leave all of E. Jerusalem where their sacred sites are, not be allowed to have access to those sites if they were to leave or eventually become a minority in their own Country. Let them keep knocking themselves out. This way they won’t have access to Gaza from the W. Bank either.

Nice deflection.

You’re the one who’s deflecting. Palestinians are making demands they know Israel can’t agree to inorder to maintain their identity.

Israel has one major precondition. They get to keep everything they have stolen.

 

[toobfreak]

The Zionists started the violence by going to Palestine with the stated goal of removing the Palestinians and replacing them with foreign colonial settlers.

Sorry, but that just does not ring true. AS ALREADY REPORTED, as soon as the British settled the Jews in Israel, immediately the rest of the Middle East vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors and that Islam would drive the Jews into the Sea. From the very beginning, the Arabs have never sought nor tried peace. It's just not in your DNA. Since that time, Islam has continuously tried different methods to destroy the Jews. The Jews agreed to relocate there by directive of the British and the United Nations and the Arabs took it out on the Jews. The Jews paid for much of the land, they improved the land, and the Arabs fought the Jews.

Then in 1947 both the UN and the Jews tried to reach an amiable settlement that would have established a Palestinian State with much land and ended the fighting and the Palestinians WALKED OUT. They chose more fighting instead. In the next year, 80% of all Jews moved into the area as a result. Congratulations: you've killed thousands of your own people and lost most of the land you could have had. But you keep right on fighting, throwing rocks and sticks, it has worked out so well for you so far!

 

[P F Tinmore]

You are obviously a Zionist, and of course like most Zionists you like to tout of the power, of looting, and shooting (Oh, might is right) except when Nazis, or Islamist's use the same force against Jews, then all of a sudden they're being mean to the poor Jews.

Black & White Reasoning. The Nazis were barbaric, genocidal, after global domination taking many other people's land; The Jews have had a claim to the Levant since biblical times, offered money and sought peaceful coexistence up to when the 1947 talks broke down. Funny you have a word against people willing to look openly at both sides, the whole issue, yet have no word for those who only hate Jews and blame them for everything and fault Arabs for nothing.

The Israelis aren't barbaric?
Shooting into crowds?

The Israelis aren't genocidal?
Over 90,000 Arabs / Palestinians killed since the conflict began.

The Israelis aren't taking many people's lands?
Golan Heights is Syria, and the West Bank is partially Palestinian, and partially Jordanian.

Can we call Israel Nazi lite?

You count in this 90K Egypt military soldiers and Syrian soldier etc...
Israel does not shoot on a civilian to kill civilians.
It was a war and In war, ppl die to surprise you? new for you that in wars ppl die?
Maybe the Palestinian and stop this war and no more ppl will die?
How many ppl killed in Syria? Hundreds of thousands in 7 years and no one says anything...
while Israel killed Tens of thousands in more than 70 years for an act of defending its border...

Maybe you wish for the Israelians to go and kill themselves by drowning in the sea.
But guess what? it is not going to happen, we will fight for are life and we will win like in the past

Maybe the Palestinian and stop this war and no more ppl will die?

It is Israel's war.

Its the Arabian's war

Link?

 

[Indeependent]

Black & White Reasoning. The Nazis were barbaric, genocidal, after global domination taking many other people's land; The Jews have had a claim to the Levant since biblical times, offered money and sought peaceful coexistence up to when the 1947 talks broke down. Funny you have a word against people willing to look openly at both sides, the whole issue, yet have no word for those who only hate Jews and blame them for everything and fault Arabs for nothing.

The Israelis aren't barbaric?
Shooting into crowds?

The Israelis aren't genocidal?
Over 90,000 Arabs / Palestinians killed since the conflict began.

The Israelis aren't taking many people's lands?
Golan Heights is Syria, and the West Bank is partially Palestinian, and partially Jordanian.

Can we call Israel Nazi lite?

You count in this 90K Egypt military soldiers and Syrian soldier etc...
Israel does not shoot on a civilian to kill civilians.
It was a war and In war, ppl die to surprise you? new for you that in wars ppl die?
Maybe the Palestinian and stop this war and no more ppl will die?
How many ppl killed in Syria? Hundreds of thousands in 7 years and no one says anything...
while Israel killed Tens of thousands in more than 70 years for an act of defending its border...

Maybe you wish for the Israelians to go and kill themselves by drowning in the sea.
But guess what? it is not going to happen, we will fight for are life and we will win like in the past

Maybe the Palestinian and stop this war and no more ppl will die?

It is Israel's war.

Its the Arabian's war

Link?

Link?

It must be very embarrassing for you that a bunch of starving Jews from Europe kicked the shit out of a billion Arabs.

 

[USAF 2023]

You count in this 90K Egypt military soldiers and Syrian soldier etc...
Israel does not shoot on a civilian to kill civilians.
It was a war and In war, ppl die to surprise you? new for you that in wars ppl die?
Maybe the Palestinian and stop this war and no more ppl will die?
How many ppl killed in Syria? Hundreds of thousands in 7 years and no one says anything...
while Israel killed Tens of thousands in more than 70 years for an act of defending its border...

Maybe you wish for the Israelians to go and kill themselves by drowning in the sea.
But guess what? it is not going to happen, we will fight for are life and we will win like in the past

Maybe the Palestinian and stop this war and no more ppl will die?

It is Israel's war.

Hardly. The Palestinians know that Israel isn’t going to leave all of E. Jerusalem where their sacred sites are, not be allowed to have access to those sites if they were to leave or eventually become a minority in their own Country. Let them keep knocking themselves out. This way they won’t have access to Gaza from the W. Bank either.

Nice deflection.

You’re the one who’s deflecting. Palestinians are making demands they know Israel can’t agree to inorder to maintain their identity.

Israel has one major precondition. They get to keep everything they have stolen.

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple. You still can’t tespond to the question Why are the Palestinians entitled to any land within the “ 67 Borders “ linking Gaza and The W. Bank and there is no response.
Their goal is not only to give them less then the “ 67 Borders” we hear so much about but to make the Israelis a minority in their own Country. That will not happen

 

[P F Tinmore]

Jewish & Non-Jewish Population of Israel/Palestine (1517-Present)

Why do you start at 1517? Why not in 634? Or in 132? Or in 6? Or in 586 BCE? Or in 772 BCE? Or in 1942? Or in 1968?

Why do you pick the pinnacle of the Arab Conquest as your marker stone? Why not the pinnacle of the Jewish Nation?

Your Jewish source started there, fact is Jews weren't the first inhabitants, nor the people living on the land at the time, either.

To say Jews deserve that land, is outrageous.

The Jews were not the first people there. Nor were they ever the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive state.

 

[USAF 2023]

Jewish & Non-Jewish Population of Israel/Palestine (1517-Present)

Why do you start at 1517? Why not in 634? Or in 132? Or in 6? Or in 586 BCE? Or in 772 BCE? Or in 1942? Or in 1968?

Why do you pick the pinnacle of the Arab Conquest as your marker stone? Why not the pinnacle of the Jewish Nation?

Your Jewish source started there, fact is Jews weren't the first inhabitants, nor the people living on the land at the time, either.

To say Jews deserve that land, is outrageous.

The Jews were not the first people there. Nor were they ever the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive state.

Good! Then there shouldn’t be a Palestinian State.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It is Israel's war.

Hardly. The Palestinians know that Israel isn’t going to leave all of E. Jerusalem where their sacred sites are, not be allowed to have access to those sites if they were to leave or eventually become a minority in their own Country. Let them keep knocking themselves out. This way they won’t have access to Gaza from the W. Bank either.

Nice deflection.

You’re the one who’s deflecting. Palestinians are making demands they know Israel can’t agree to inorder to maintain their identity.

Israel has one major precondition. They get to keep everything they have stolen.

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple. You still can’t tespond to the question Why are the Palestinians entitled to any land within the “ 67 Borders “ linking Gaza and The W. Bank and there is no response.
Their goal is not only to give them less then the “ 67 Borders” we hear so much about but to make the Israelis a minority in their own Country. That will not happen

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple.

So you think that Israel can win Palestinian land from Egypt and Jordan? (BTW, conquest is illegal)

That is an interesting legal concept.

BTW, there are no '67 borders.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Jewish & Non-Jewish Population of Israel/Palestine (1517-Present)

Why do you start at 1517? Why not in 634? Or in 132? Or in 6? Or in 586 BCE? Or in 772 BCE? Or in 1942? Or in 1968?

Why do you pick the pinnacle of the Arab Conquest as your marker stone? Why not the pinnacle of the Jewish Nation?

Your Jewish source started there, fact is Jews weren't the first inhabitants, nor the people living on the land at the time, either.

To say Jews deserve that land, is outrageous.

The Jews were not the first people there. Nor were they ever the only people there.

There is no historic precedent for an exclusive state.

Good! Then there shouldn’t be a Palestinian State.

Palestine is not an exclusive anything state.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Zionists started the violence by going to Palestine with the stated goal of removing the Palestinians and replacing them with foreign colonial settlers.

Sorry, but that just does not ring true. AS ALREADY REPORTED, as soon as the British settled the Jews in Israel, immediately the rest of the Middle East vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors and that Islam would drive the Jews into the Sea. From the very beginning, the Arabs have never sought nor tried peace. It's just not in your DNA. Since that time, Islam has continuously tried different methods to destroy the Jews. The Jews agreed to relocate there by directive of the British and the United Nations and the Arabs took it out on the Jews. The Jews paid for much of the land, they improved the land, and the Arabs fought the Jews.

Then in 1947 both the UN and the Jews tried to reach an amiable settlement that would have established a Palestinian State with much land and ended the fighting and the Palestinians WALKED OUT. They chose more fighting instead. In the next year, 80% of all Jews moved into the area as a result. Congratulations: you've killed thousands of your own people and lost most of the land you could have had. But you keep right on fighting, throwing rocks and sticks, it has worked out so well for you so far!

vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors

The Jews were welcomed as neighbors. They were not welcome as conquerors.

BTW, conquest is illegal.

 

[USAF 2023]

Hardly. The Palestinians know that Israel isn’t going to leave all of E. Jerusalem where their sacred sites are, not be allowed to have access to those sites if they were to leave or eventually become a minority in their own Country. Let them keep knocking themselves out. This way they won’t have access to Gaza from the W. Bank either.

Nice deflection.

You’re the one who’s deflecting. Palestinians are making demands they know Israel can’t agree to inorder to maintain their identity.

Israel has one major precondition. They get to keep everything they have stolen.

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple. You still can’t tespond to the question Why are the Palestinians entitled to any land within the “ 67 Borders “ linking Gaza and The W. Bank and there is no response.
Their goal is not only to give them less then the “ 67 Borders” we hear so much about but to make the Israelis a minority in their own Country. That will not happen

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple.

So you think that Israel can win Palestinian land from Egypt and Jordan? (BTW, conquest is illegal)

That is an interesting legal concept.

BTW, there are no '67 borders.

Maybe the Arabs shought have thought about “ International Law” and “ Illegal conquest” with the sole purpose of the destruction of Israel
before 1967. Israel already did win land from Jordan and Egypt in case you haven’t noticed. Tell us then what the “real borders” are and how they differ from the 67 Borders. Since you are a fan of “ International Law” tell us please under what theory is Israel obligated to give them any land linking Gaza and The W. Bank?
YAWN.,,, No response . How typical

 

[Shusha]

The Zionists started the violence by going to Palestine with the stated goal of removing the Palestinians and replacing them with foreign colonial settlers.

Sorry, but that just does not ring true. AS ALREADY REPORTED, as soon as the British settled the Jews in Israel, immediately the rest of the Middle East vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors and that Islam would drive the Jews into the Sea. From the very beginning, the Arabs have never sought nor tried peace. It's just not in your DNA. Since that time, Islam has continuously tried different methods to destroy the Jews. The Jews agreed to relocate there by directive of the British and the United Nations and the Arabs took it out on the Jews. The Jews paid for much of the land, they improved the land, and the Arabs fought the Jews.

Then in 1947 both the UN and the Jews tried to reach an amiable settlement that would have established a Palestinian State with much land and ended the fighting and the Palestinians WALKED OUT. They chose more fighting instead. In the next year, 80% of all Jews moved into the area as a result. Congratulations: you've killed thousands of your own people and lost most of the land you could have had. But you keep right on fighting, throwing rocks and sticks, it has worked out so well for you so far!

vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors

The Jews were welcomed as neighbors. They were not welcome as conquerors.

BTW, conquest is illegal.

The Jews were welcomed as dhimmis as long as they kept their place and did not request the rights of equals.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Nice deflection.

You’re the one who’s deflecting. Palestinians are making demands they know Israel can’t agree to inorder to maintain their identity.

Israel has one major precondition. They get to keep everything they have stolen.

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple. You still can’t tespond to the question Why are the Palestinians entitled to any land within the “ 67 Borders “ linking Gaza and The W. Bank and there is no response.
Their goal is not only to give them less then the “ 67 Borders” we hear so much about but to make the Israelis a minority in their own Country. That will not happen

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple.

So you think that Israel can win Palestinian land from Egypt and Jordan? (BTW, conquest is illegal)

That is an interesting legal concept.

BTW, there are no '67 borders.

Maybe the Arabs shought have thought about “ International Law” and “ Illegal conquest” with the sole purpose of the destruction of Israel
before 1967. Israel already did win land from Jordan and Egypt in case you haven’t noticed. Tell us then what the “real borders” are and how they differ from the 67 Borders. Since you are a fan of “ International Law” tell us please under what theory is Israel obligated to give them any land linking Gaza and The W. Bank?
YAWN.,,, No response . How typical

Israel did not win land from Egypt and Jordan. They merely took over the occupation.

There are no '67 borders. Those are armistice lines that were specifically not be political or territorial boundaries.

Since there are no borders between the West Bank and Gaza, why would a link be a problem?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Zionists started the violence by going to Palestine with the stated goal of removing the Palestinians and replacing them with foreign colonial settlers.

Sorry, but that just does not ring true. AS ALREADY REPORTED, as soon as the British settled the Jews in Israel, immediately the rest of the Middle East vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors and that Islam would drive the Jews into the Sea. From the very beginning, the Arabs have never sought nor tried peace. It's just not in your DNA. Since that time, Islam has continuously tried different methods to destroy the Jews. The Jews agreed to relocate there by directive of the British and the United Nations and the Arabs took it out on the Jews. The Jews paid for much of the land, they improved the land, and the Arabs fought the Jews.

Then in 1947 both the UN and the Jews tried to reach an amiable settlement that would have established a Palestinian State with much land and ended the fighting and the Palestinians WALKED OUT. They chose more fighting instead. In the next year, 80% of all Jews moved into the area as a result. Congratulations: you've killed thousands of your own people and lost most of the land you could have had. But you keep right on fighting, throwing rocks and sticks, it has worked out so well for you so far!

vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors

The Jews were welcomed as neighbors. They were not welcome as conquerors.

BTW, conquest is illegal.

The Jews were welcomed as dhimmis as long as they kept their place and did not request the rights of equals.

Link?

 

[USAF 2023]

You’re the one who’s deflecting. Palestinians are making demands they know Israel can’t agree to inorder to maintain their identity.

Israel has one major precondition. They get to keep everything they have stolen.

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple. You still can’t tespond to the question Why are the Palestinians entitled to any land within the “ 67 Borders “ linking Gaza and The W. Bank and there is no response.
Their goal is not only to give them less then the “ 67 Borders” we hear so much about but to make the Israelis a minority in their own Country. That will not happen

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple.

So you think that Israel can win Palestinian land from Egypt and Jordan? (BTW, conquest is illegal)

That is an interesting legal concept.

BTW, there are no '67 borders.

Maybe the Arabs shought have thought about “ International Law” and “ Illegal conquest” with the sole purpose of the destruction of Israel
before 1967. Israel already did win land from Jordan and Egypt in case you haven’t noticed. Tell us then what the “real borders” are and how they differ from the 67 Borders. Since you are a fan of “ International Law” tell us please under what theory is Israel obligated to give them any land linking Gaza and The W. Bank?
YAWN.,,, No response . How typical

Israel did not win land from Egypt and Jordan. They merely took over the occupation.

There are no '67 borders. Those are armistice lines that were specifically not be political or territorial boundaries.

Since there are no borders between the West Bank and Gaza, why would a link be a problem?

Sorry, but the Arabs initiated the War and Israel won. To the Victor belongs the Spoils. Somehow “ occupation “ was never mentioned before 1967. If there are no borders Israel isn’t under any obligation to return to them. Any connection between Gaza and the W. Bank would have to run through “ Israel Proper” Under What theory of “ International Law” is Israel obligated to do that?

 

[Shusha]

The Zionists started the violence by going to Palestine with the stated goal of removing the Palestinians and replacing them with foreign colonial settlers.

Sorry, but that just does not ring true. AS ALREADY REPORTED, as soon as the British settled the Jews in Israel, immediately the rest of the Middle East vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors and that Islam would drive the Jews into the Sea. From the very beginning, the Arabs have never sought nor tried peace. It's just not in your DNA. Since that time, Islam has continuously tried different methods to destroy the Jews. The Jews agreed to relocate there by directive of the British and the United Nations and the Arabs took it out on the Jews. The Jews paid for much of the land, they improved the land, and the Arabs fought the Jews.

Then in 1947 both the UN and the Jews tried to reach an amiable settlement that would have established a Palestinian State with much land and ended the fighting and the Palestinians WALKED OUT. They chose more fighting instead. In the next year, 80% of all Jews moved into the area as a result. Congratulations: you've killed thousands of your own people and lost most of the land you could have had. But you keep right on fighting, throwing rocks and sticks, it has worked out so well for you so far!

vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors

The Jews were welcomed as neighbors. They were not welcome as conquerors.

BTW, conquest is illegal.

The Jews were welcomed as dhimmis as long as they kept their place and did not request the rights of equals.

Link?

Link? Um. How about every post of yours which denies self-determination and sovereignty to the Jewish people? Or how about every day on the Temple Mount where Jews presence and prayer is considered "dirty"? Or how about all the "Palestinian" territory which is cleansed of Jews (not to mention the other ME States)?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel has one major precondition. They get to keep everything they have stolen.

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple. You still can’t tespond to the question Why are the Palestinians entitled to any land within the “ 67 Borders “ linking Gaza and The W. Bank and there is no response.
Their goal is not only to give them less then the “ 67 Borders” we hear so much about but to make the Israelis a minority in their own Country. That will not happen

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple.

So you think that Israel can win Palestinian land from Egypt and Jordan? (BTW, conquest is illegal)

That is an interesting legal concept.

BTW, there are no '67 borders.

Maybe the Arabs shought have thought about “ International Law” and “ Illegal conquest” with the sole purpose of the destruction of Israel
before 1967. Israel already did win land from Jordan and Egypt in case you haven’t noticed. Tell us then what the “real borders” are and how they differ from the 67 Borders. Since you are a fan of “ International Law” tell us please under what theory is Israel obligated to give them any land linking Gaza and The W. Bank?
YAWN.,,, No response . How typical

Israel did not win land from Egypt and Jordan. They merely took over the occupation.

There are no '67 borders. Those are armistice lines that were specifically not be political or territorial boundaries.

Since there are no borders between the West Bank and Gaza, why would a link be a problem?

Sorry, but the Arabs initiated the War and Israel won. To the Victor belongs the Spoils. Somehow “ occupation “ was never mentioned before 1967. If there are no borders Israel isn’t under any obligation to return to them. Any connection between Gaza and the W. Bank would have to run through “ Israel Proper” Under What theory of “ International Law” is Israel obligated to do that?

What borders define Israel proper?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Zionists started the violence by going to Palestine with the stated goal of removing the Palestinians and replacing them with foreign colonial settlers.

Sorry, but that just does not ring true. AS ALREADY REPORTED, as soon as the British settled the Jews in Israel, immediately the rest of the Middle East vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors and that Islam would drive the Jews into the Sea. From the very beginning, the Arabs have never sought nor tried peace. It's just not in your DNA. Since that time, Islam has continuously tried different methods to destroy the Jews. The Jews agreed to relocate there by directive of the British and the United Nations and the Arabs took it out on the Jews. The Jews paid for much of the land, they improved the land, and the Arabs fought the Jews.

Then in 1947 both the UN and the Jews tried to reach an amiable settlement that would have established a Palestinian State with much land and ended the fighting and the Palestinians WALKED OUT. They chose more fighting instead. In the next year, 80% of all Jews moved into the area as a result. Congratulations: you've killed thousands of your own people and lost most of the land you could have had. But you keep right on fighting, throwing rocks and sticks, it has worked out so well for you so far!

vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors

The Jews were welcomed as neighbors. They were not welcome as conquerors.

BTW, conquest is illegal.

The Jews were welcomed as dhimmis as long as they kept their place and did not request the rights of equals.

Link?

Link? Um. How about every post of yours which denies self-determination and sovereignty to the Jewish people? Or how about every day on the Temple Mount where Jews presence and prayer is considered "dirty"? Or how about all the "Palestinian" territory which is cleansed of Jews (not to mention the other ME States)?

Deflection.

 

[USAF 2023]

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple. You still can’t tespond to the question Why are the Palestinians entitled to any land within the “ 67 Borders “ linking Gaza and The W. Bank and there is no response.
Their goal is not only to give them less then the “ 67 Borders” we hear so much about but to make the Israelis a minority in their own Country. That will not happen

Israel obtained Gaza, W.Bank and E. Jerusalem from Countries who initiated War; It’s that simple.

So you think that Israel can win Palestinian land from Egypt and Jordan? (BTW, conquest is illegal)

That is an interesting legal concept.

BTW, there are no '67 borders.

Maybe the Arabs shought have thought about “ International Law” and “ Illegal conquest” with the sole purpose of the destruction of Israel
before 1967. Israel already did win land from Jordan and Egypt in case you haven’t noticed. Tell us then what the “real borders” are and how they differ from the 67 Borders. Since you are a fan of “ International Law” tell us please under what theory is Israel obligated to give them any land linking Gaza and The W. Bank?
YAWN.,,, No response . How typical

Israel did not win land from Egypt and Jordan. They merely took over the occupation.

There are no '67 borders. Those are armistice lines that were specifically not be political or territorial boundaries.

Since there are no borders between the West Bank and Gaza, why would a link be a problem?

Sorry, but the Arabs initiated the War and Israel won. To the Victor belongs the Spoils. Somehow “ occupation “ was never mentioned before 1967. If there are no borders Israel isn’t under any obligation to return to them. Any connection between Gaza and the W. Bank would have to run through “ Israel Proper” Under What theory of “ International Law” is Israel obligated to do that?

What borders define Israel proper?

You mean the Borders the Arabs talk about that were never accepted before??

 

[Shusha]

Sorry, but that just does not ring true. AS ALREADY REPORTED, as soon as the British settled the Jews in Israel, immediately the rest of the Middle East vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors and that Islam would drive the Jews into the Sea. From the very beginning, the Arabs have never sought nor tried peace. It's just not in your DNA. Since that time, Islam has continuously tried different methods to destroy the Jews. The Jews agreed to relocate there by directive of the British and the United Nations and the Arabs took it out on the Jews. The Jews paid for much of the land, they improved the land, and the Arabs fought the Jews.

Then in 1947 both the UN and the Jews tried to reach an amiable settlement that would have established a Palestinian State with much land and ended the fighting and the Palestinians WALKED OUT. They chose more fighting instead. In the next year, 80% of all Jews moved into the area as a result. Congratulations: you've killed thousands of your own people and lost most of the land you could have had. But you keep right on fighting, throwing rocks and sticks, it has worked out so well for you so far!

vowed that the Jews would not be welcome as neighbors

The Jews were welcomed as neighbors. They were not welcome as conquerors.

BTW, conquest is illegal.

The Jews were welcomed as dhimmis as long as they kept their place and did not request the rights of equals.

Link?

Link? Um. How about every post of yours which denies self-determination and sovereignty to the Jewish people? Or how about every day on the Temple Mount where Jews presence and prayer is considered "dirty"? Or how about all the "Palestinian" territory which is cleansed of Jews (not to mention the other ME States)?

Deflection.

Its not deflection. Its the core of the conflict.