Israel's Lies

[Street Juice]

Does that give them the right to dispossess everyone else, drive them into a concentration camp Gaza II, and establish an apartheid state in NY?

Finally! You come up with a good idea.

Broken clock syndrome.

Broken clock syndrome? Like every twelve hours Jews dispossess another people? Start another war? Commit another genocide? Assassinate another president? Stage another terrorist attack? Subvert another authority? Launch another revolution? Just generally make themselves insufferable?

 

[fncceo]

Does that give them the right to dispossess everyone else, drive them into a concentration camp Gaza II, and establish an apartheid state in NY?

Finally! You come up with a good idea.

Broken clock syndrome.

Broken clock syndrome? Like every twelve hours Jews dispossess another people? Start another war? Commit another genocide? Assassinate another president? Stage another terrorist attack? Subvert another authority? Launch another revolution? Just generally make themselves insufferable?

Watch how you talk to your betters. We'll raise the rent on your trailer again.

 

[rylah]

Does that give them the right to dispossess everyone else, drive them into a concentration camp Gaza II, and establish an apartheid state in NY?

Finally! You come up with a good idea.

Broken clock syndrome.

Broken clock syndrome? Like every twelve hours Jews dispossess another people? Start another war? Commit another genocide? Assassinate another president? Stage another terrorist attack? Subvert another authority? Launch another revolution? Just generally make themselves insufferable?

Give me a break, you have cities in US with higher homicide rate in one decade,
than all casualties in the Arab-Israeli wars in 70+ years combined.

Be careful with what you call 'insufferable',
might find yourself fit that category to the t.

 

[Street Juice]

Watch how you talk to your betters. We'll raise the rent on your trailer again.

Broken record. You need new material.

Maybe take a break and go slaughter-viewing. That seems to cheer you people up.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Does that give them the right to dispossess everyone else, drive them into a concentration camp Gaza II, and establish an apartheid state in NY?

Finally! You come up with a good idea.

Broken clock syndrome.

Broken clock syndrome? Like every twelve hours Jews dispossess another people? Start another war? Commit another genocide? Assassinate another president? Stage another terrorist attack? Subvert another authority? Launch another revolution? Just generally make themselves insufferable?

Show me on this doll where the Jew touched you.

 

[Andylusion]

The zionist Israeli pukes have created a gigantic lie to explain how their theft of other people's land wasn't really theft. ...

The Jews have been in the land of Israel that was promised to them by G-d, since before Israel had a king.

Further, they didn't 'steal' the land. The Arabs left when the attacking Arab armies threatened to kill them if they stayed. The Arabs that did not leave, are still in Israel with their property. The ones that left Israel when Israel needed to defend itself, lost their property.

If I was in your country, and fled to the country of an invading army, your country would take my property.

Israel is fertile ground.

It wasn't before The Jews made it bloom.

View attachment 369364

That's not true. A Palestinian friend used to describe his grandfathers olive groves.

View attachment 372636
That above... did not happen under the Arabs. The Bible says that the Jews will make the desert bloom. And it did.

Was there an isolated Olive grove somewhere? Sure. Keep in mind, that this was historic Jewish lands, stolen by Romans, exiled around the world, decimated by the Ottomans, and then returned by divine providence today.

Again, there has never been a time since King David, that Jews have not lived in the land of Israel.

Interestingly, there are a number of Sheiks that admit that Islam supports Israel. Because of course, it does.

The Qur'an and the Land of Israel

www.templemount.org

My personal favorite, direct from the Qur'an

If God had willed, He would have made you one nation; but that He may try you in what has come to you. So be you forward in good works; unto God shall you return.… (5:54)

Hmmm... seems like G-d willed it. Given it happened.

Again, there has never been a time since King David, that Jews have not lived in the land of Israel.

There has never been a time since the US became a country that Jews have not lived in New York State. Does that give them the right to dispossess everyone else, drive them into a concentration camp Gaza II, and establish an apartheid state in NY? Hmm..now that I think about it...

Hmmm... seems like G-d willed it. Given it happened.

Given the Romans conquered the Jews, seems like God willed that, too.

Were the Jews living in New York 2,000 years ago? Was New York their ancient homeland for thousands of years? Was New York promised to the Jews in the Bible?

Given the Romans conquered the Jews, seems like God willed that, too.

Um..... Yeah. He did. That is exactly what G-d said would happen in Torah. That's what the prophets said would happen. That's even what Jesus himself said would happen. *AND*.... the regathering was predicted in Isaiah 11, and other places.

So the answer is..... yes. G-d willed that the Romans conquer Israel as punishment for breaking the promise made in the Torah, the book of Deuteronomy.

Everything that has happened to the Jews, and to the land of Israel, has happened exactly as G-d said it would, as predicted in the Bible. Everything.

 

[toastman]

Here’s is how Tinmore works. After a poster, usually Rocco, completely dismantles Tinmores so called ‘argument’, Tinmore then asks some ridiculous question that cannot be answered or is irrelevant to the argument. Once you cannot answer that question, Tinmore claims he won the argument and accuses you of dancing around the question.

 

[Sunni Man]

Here’s is how Tinmore works. After a poster, usually Rocco, completely dismantles Tinmores so called ‘argument’, Tinmore then asks some ridiculous question that cannot be answered or is irrelevant to the argument. Once you cannot answer that question, Tinmore claims he won the argument and accuses you of dancing around the question.

Actually, that's your M.O., not Tinmores. ...

 

[toastman]

Here’s is how Tinmore works. After a poster, usually Rocco, completely dismantles Tinmores so called ‘argument’, Tinmore then asks some ridiculous question that cannot be answered or is irrelevant to the argument. Once you cannot answer that question, Tinmore claims he won the argument and accuses you of dancing around the question.

Actually, that's your M.O., not Tinmores. ...

Cool. Please show me an example then Sunni Troll

 

[Street Juice]

The zionist Israeli pukes have created a gigantic lie to explain how their theft of other people's land wasn't really theft. ...

The Jews have been in the land of Israel that was promised to them by G-d, since before Israel had a king.

Further, they didn't 'steal' the land. The Arabs left when the attacking Arab armies threatened to kill them if they stayed. The Arabs that did not leave, are still in Israel with their property. The ones that left Israel when Israel needed to defend itself, lost their property.

If I was in your country, and fled to the country of an invading army, your country would take my property.

Israel is fertile ground.

It wasn't before The Jews made it bloom.

View attachment 369364

That's not true. A Palestinian friend used to describe his grandfathers olive groves.

View attachment 372636
That above... did not happen under the Arabs. The Bible says that the Jews will make the desert bloom. And it did.

Was there an isolated Olive grove somewhere? Sure. Keep in mind, that this was historic Jewish lands, stolen by Romans, exiled around the world, decimated by the Ottomans, and then returned by divine providence today.

Again, there has never been a time since King David, that Jews have not lived in the land of Israel.

Interestingly, there are a number of Sheiks that admit that Islam supports Israel. Because of course, it does.

The Qur'an and the Land of Israel

www.templemount.org

My personal favorite, direct from the Qur'an

If God had willed, He would have made you one nation; but that He may try you in what has come to you. So be you forward in good works; unto God shall you return.… (5:54)

Hmmm... seems like G-d willed it. Given it happened.

Again, there has never been a time since King David, that Jews have not lived in the land of Israel.

There has never been a time since the US became a country that Jews have not lived in New York State. Does that give them the right to dispossess everyone else, drive them into a concentration camp Gaza II, and establish an apartheid state in NY? Hmm..now that I think about it...

Hmmm... seems like G-d willed it. Given it happened.

Given the Romans conquered the Jews, seems like God willed that, too.

Were the Jews living in New York 2,000 years ago? Was New York their ancient homeland for thousands of years? Was New York promised to the Jews in the Bible?

Given the Romans conquered the Jews, seems like God willed that, too.

Um..... Yeah. He did. That is exactly what G-d said would happen in Torah. That's what the prophets said would happen. That's even what Jesus himself said would happen. *AND*.... the regathering was predicted in Isaiah 11, and other places.

So the answer is..... yes. G-d willed that the Romans conquer Israel as punishment for breaking the promise made in the Torah, the book of Deuteronomy.

Everything that has happened to the Jews, and to the land of Israel, has happened exactly as G-d said it would, as predicted in the Bible. Everything.

Since you like Deuteronomy:

World's Only Fun!damentalator!

 

[Street Juice]

Does that give them the right to dispossess everyone else, drive them into a concentration camp Gaza II, and establish an apartheid state in NY?

Finally! You come up with a good idea.

Broken clock syndrome.

Broken clock syndrome? Like every twelve hours Jews dispossess another people? Start another war? Commit another genocide? Assassinate another president? Stage another terrorist attack? Subvert another authority? Launch another revolution? Just generally make themselves insufferable?

Give me a break, you have cities in US with higher homicide rate in one decade,
than all casualties in the Arab-Israeli wars in 70+ years combined.

Be careful with what you call 'insufferable',
might find yourself fit that category to the t.

Your little chart missed the Jewish-Bolshevik genocidal war against Russian Christians. 66 million dead. I fixed it for by adding the blue line, to scale.

 

[Picaro]

The zionist Israeli pukes have created a gigantic lie to explain how their theft of other people's land wasn't really theft. ...

The Jews have been in the land of Israel that was promised to them by G-d, since before Israel had a king.

Further, they didn't 'steal' the land. The Arabs left when the attacking Arab armies threatened to kill them if they stayed. The Arabs that did not leave, are still in Israel with their property. The ones that left Israel when Israel needed to defend itself, lost their property.

If I was in your country, and fled to the country of an invading army, your country would take my property.

Israel is fertile ground.

It wasn't before The Jews made it bloom.

View attachment 369364

That's not true. A Palestinian friend used to describe his grandfathers olive groves.

View attachment 372636
That above... did not happen under the Arabs. The Bible says that the Jews will make the desert bloom. And it did.

Was there an isolated Olive grove somewhere? Sure. Keep in mind, that this was historic Jewish lands, stolen by Romans, exiled around the world, decimated by the Ottomans, and then returned by divine providence today.

Again, there has never been a time since King David, that Jews have not lived in the land of Israel.

Interestingly, there are a number of Sheiks that admit that Islam supports Israel. Because of course, it does.

The Qur'an and the Land of Israel

www.templemount.org

My personal favorite, direct from the Qur'an

If God had willed, He would have made you one nation; but that He may try you in what has come to you. So be you forward in good works; unto God shall you return.… (5:54)

Hmmm... seems like G-d willed it. Given it happened.

Again, there has never been a time since King David, that Jews have not lived in the land of Israel.

There has never been a time since the US became a country that Jews have not lived in New York State. Does that give them the right to dispossess everyone else, drive them into a concentration camp Gaza II, and establish an apartheid state in NY? Hmm..now that I think about it...

Hmmm... seems like G-d willed it. Given it happened.

Given the Romans conquered the Jews, seems like God willed that, too.

Nobody would mind if they took over Queens or the Bronx.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Another one.

Five Arab armies attacked Israel in 1948.

Too disorganized to be called armies?

Indeed it was not much of a war but Israel used it as an excuse to steal land.

5 disorganized mobs lose to Israel.
Not the last time disorganized Muslims will lose, eh?

Which leads us to another Israeli lie.

The five Arab armies lost to Israel.

What's the opposite of defeated Israel?

Duck!

Darn ducks, beating the disorganized Muslim rabble.....over and over and over.

So how big is the country of Palestine going to be?

Lichtenstein? Smaller?

The lie is that the Arab armies lost to Israel in 1948.

The fighting ended by the UN Security Council calling for an armistice. Nobody lost that war.

The fighting ended by the UN Security Council calling for an armistice.

We agree, the Arabs didn't win and Israel didn't lose.

The point is that the 5 Arab countries did not lose.

What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Iraq lose?
What did Egypt lose?

What?

Let's get back to Israel's two handed whopper. The Arab armies did not lose the 1948 war.

Are you going to believe legal UN documents or Israel's worldwide bullshit machine?

 

[Hollie]

Another one.

Five Arab armies attacked Israel in 1948.

Too disorganized to be called armies?

Indeed it was not much of a war but Israel used it as an excuse to steal land.

5 disorganized mobs lose to Israel.
Not the last time disorganized Muslims will lose, eh?

Which leads us to another Israeli lie.

The five Arab armies lost to Israel.

What's the opposite of defeated Israel?

Duck!

Darn ducks, beating the disorganized Muslim rabble.....over and over and over.

So how big is the country of Palestine going to be?

Lichtenstein? Smaller?

The lie is that the Arab armies lost to Israel in 1948.

The fighting ended by the UN Security Council calling for an armistice. Nobody lost that war.

The fighting ended by the UN Security Council calling for an armistice.

We agree, the Arabs didn't win and Israel didn't lose.

The point is that the 5 Arab countries did not lose.

What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Iraq lose?
What did Egypt lose?

What?

Let's get back to Israel's two handed whopper. The Arab armies did not lose the 1948 war.

Are you going to believe legal UN documents or Israel's worldwide bullshit machine?

We can believe the results of the Arab-Moslem failure.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Another one.

Five Arab armies attacked Israel in 1948.

Too disorganized to be called armies?

Indeed it was not much of a war but Israel used it as an excuse to steal land.

5 disorganized mobs lose to Israel.
Not the last time disorganized Muslims will lose, eh?

Which leads us to another Israeli lie.

The five Arab armies lost to Israel.

What's the opposite of defeated Israel?

Duck!

Darn ducks, beating the disorganized Muslim rabble.....over and over and over.

So how big is the country of Palestine going to be?

Lichtenstein? Smaller?

The lie is that the Arab armies lost to Israel in 1948.

The fighting ended by the UN Security Council calling for an armistice. Nobody lost that war.

The fighting ended by the UN Security Council calling for an armistice.

We agree, the Arabs didn't win and Israel didn't lose.

The point is that the 5 Arab countries did not lose.

What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Iraq lose?
What did Egypt lose?

What?

Let's get back to Israel's two handed whopper. The Arab armies did not lose the 1948 war.

Are you going to believe legal UN documents or Israel's worldwide bullshit machine?

We can believe the results of the Arab-Moslem failure.

Is deflection all you got?

Sad.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israel's Lies
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: Well, from a myopic perspective, you have a small point made here. But in terms of the 1948 War of Independence, it was not over until an international agreement was (or will be) concluded (between Israel and the Arab League States) in written form and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instrument or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation;

The point is that the 5 Arab countries did not lose.

What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Iraq lose?
What did Egypt lose?

What?

(COMMENT)

As I've said before, in the post WWII era, the terms "win" or "lose" are usually not applicable. But,

◈ IF you want to look at it in those terms,

(Ω) THEN the Arab League Forces gained not Territory and lost ≈10,000 Killed in Action.​

(Ω) THEN: Israeli Forces successfully defended their territory and the Arab League Forces actually lost ground.​

✦ By 1967, the Egyptians had lost control of the entire Sinai and the Egyptian Army surrendered.​

◇ Largely - through diplomatic efforts, the Sinai and the Egyptian 3d Army were released back to Egyptian control.​

✦ By 1979, the Egyptian Treaty with Israel made permanent the international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine as the permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel. (Without Prejudice to the Palestinians.)​

✦ By 1988, the Jordanian sovereignty over the West Bank and Jerusalem had been abandon into the hands of the Isreal, which already had effective control over the territory.​

✦ By 1994, the Jordanian Treaty with Israel the international boundary between Jordan and Israel was established to the boundary definition under the former Mandate. (Without Prejudice to the Palestinians.) ​

✦ By 2000, Lebanon reaffirmed the international boundary between Israel and Lebanon was the same as the 1923 boundary - was meticulously retraced in 1949.​

(Ω) The governments of Syria and Iraq are not the same government as in the 1948 War. ​

​

◈ In 1948, in a Cable from King Abdullah, HM explained that Jordan was compelled to enter Palestine to protect unarmed Arabs against massacres similar to those of Deir Yasin. However, the actions of the Jordanian Forces and the Egyptian Forces suggest that the primary purpose of the entry was to secure land for sovereign territorial expansion.

◈ Whatever reason you want to ascribe to, by the outcomes observed today, the entry of Arab League Forces accomplished nothing except to suffer casualties (civilian and military).

◈ So your argument on this point is damn weak.

​

Let's get back to Israel's two handed whopper. The Arab armies did not lose the 1948 war.

Are you going to believe legal UN documents or Israel's worldwide bullshit machine?

(COMMENT)

Like so many other worldwide bullshit machines of today, the pro-Arab Palestinians have their complement. But let's invert the question: Between the outbreak of hostilities in 1948 and the end of the conflict with the adjacent forces in the shadow of the post-1973 Yom Kipper War, "what did Israel lose?" If Israel successfully defends and drives out hostile Arab League Forces, and ends-up with control of the territory (West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Jerusalem) how is that a loss? And if, in your myopic view of "win-lose" yardstick, who wins?

Our friend Hollie actually makes a sarcastic point - yet valid.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israel's Lies
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: Well, from a myopic perspective, you have a small point made here. But in terms of the 1948 War of Independence, it was not over until an international agreement was (or will be) concluded (between Israel and the Arab League States) in written form and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instrument or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation;

The point is that the 5 Arab countries did not lose.

What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Iraq lose?
What did Egypt lose?

What?

(COMMENT)

As I've said before, in the post WWII era, the terms "win" or "lose" are usually not applicable. But,

◈ IF you want to look at it in those terms,

(Ω) THEN the Arab League Forces gained not Territory and lost ≈10,000 Killed in Action.​

(Ω) THEN: Israeli Forces successfully defended their territory and the Arab League Forces actually lost ground.​

✦ By 1967, the Egyptians had lost control of the entire Sinai and the Egyptian Army surrendered.​

◇ Largely - through diplomatic efforts, the Sinai and the Egyptian 3d Army were released back to Egyptian control.​

✦ By 1979, the Egyptian Treaty with Israel made permanent the international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine as the permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel. (Without Prejudice to the Palestinians.)​

✦ By 1988, the Jordanian sovereignty over the West Bank and Jerusalem had been abandon into the hands of the Isreal, which already had effective control over the territory.​

✦ By 1994, the Jordanian Treaty with Israel the international boundary between Jordan and Israel was established to the boundary definition under the former Mandate. (Without Prejudice to the Palestinians.) ​

✦ By 2000, Lebanon reaffirmed the international boundary between Israel and Lebanon was the same as the 1923 boundary - was meticulously retraced in 1949.​

(Ω) The governments of Syria and Iraq are not the same government as in the 1948 War. ​

​

◈ In 1948, in a Cable from King Abdullah, HM explained that Jordan was compelled to enter Palestine to protect unarmed Arabs against massacres similar to those of Deir Yasin. However, the actions of the Jordanian Forces and the Egyptian Forces suggest that the primary purpose of the entry was to secure land for sovereign territorial expansion.

◈ Whatever reason you want to ascribe to, by the outcomes observed today, the entry of Arab League Forces accomplished nothing except to suffer casualties (civilian and military).

◈ So your argument on this point is damn weak.

​

Let's get back to Israel's two handed whopper. The Arab armies did not lose the 1948 war.

Are you going to believe legal UN documents or Israel's worldwide bullshit machine?

(COMMENT)

Like so many other worldwide bullshit machines of today, the pro-Arab Palestinians have their complement. But let's invert the question: Between the outbreak of hostilities in 1948 and the end of the conflict with the adjacent forces in the shadow of the post-1973 Yom Kipper War, "what did Israel lose?" If Israel successfully defends and drives out hostile Arab League Forces, and ends-up with control of the territory (West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Jerusalem) how is that a loss? And if, in your myopic view of "win-lose" yardstick, who wins?

Our friend Hollie actually makes a sarcastic point - yet valid.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Another one.

Five Arab armies attacked Israel in 1948.

Too disorganized to be called armies?

Indeed it was not much of a war but Israel used it as an excuse to steal land.

5 disorganized mobs lose to Israel.
Not the last time disorganized Muslims will lose, eh?

Which leads us to another Israeli lie.

The five Arab armies lost to Israel.

What's the opposite of defeated Israel?

Duck!

Darn ducks, beating the disorganized Muslim rabble.....over and over and over.

So how big is the country of Palestine going to be?

Lichtenstein? Smaller?

The lie is that the Arab armies lost to Israel in 1948.

The fighting ended by the UN Security Council calling for an armistice. Nobody lost that war.

The fighting ended by the UN Security Council calling for an armistice.

We agree, the Arabs didn't win and Israel didn't lose.

The point is that the 5 Arab countries did not lose.

What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Iraq lose?
What did Egypt lose?

What?

Let's get back to Israel's two handed whopper. The Arab armies did not lose the 1948 war.

Are you going to believe legal UN documents or Israel's worldwide bullshit machine?

The Arab armies did not lose the 1948 war.

Looking at how much bigger Israel was after the 1948 war, compared to before, it's clear Israel won.

Are you going to believe legal UN documents

The ones signed by Israelis? Sure. And I'm going to believe maps. "Palestine" keeps getting smaller.

Tick-tock.

 

[Hollie]

Another one.

Five Arab armies attacked Israel in 1948.

Too disorganized to be called armies?

Indeed it was not much of a war but Israel used it as an excuse to steal land.

5 disorganized mobs lose to Israel.
Not the last time disorganized Muslims will lose, eh?

Which leads us to another Israeli lie.

The five Arab armies lost to Israel.

What's the opposite of defeated Israel?

Duck!

Darn ducks, beating the disorganized Muslim rabble.....over and over and over.

So how big is the country of Palestine going to be?

Lichtenstein? Smaller?

The lie is that the Arab armies lost to Israel in 1948.

The fighting ended by the UN Security Council calling for an armistice. Nobody lost that war.

The fighting ended by the UN Security Council calling for an armistice.

We agree, the Arabs didn't win and Israel didn't lose.

The point is that the 5 Arab countries did not lose.

What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Iraq lose?
What did Egypt lose?

What?

Let's get back to Israel's two handed whopper. The Arab armies did not lose the 1948 war.

Are you going to believe legal UN documents or Israel's worldwide bullshit machine?

We can believe the results of the Arab-Moslem failure.

Is deflection all you got?

Sad.

Denial as a tactic won't help you.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Another one.

Five Arab armies attacked Israel in 1948.

Too disorganized to be called armies?

Indeed it was not much of a war but Israel used it as an excuse to steal land.

5 disorganized mobs lose to Israel.
Not the last time disorganized Muslims will lose, eh?

Which leads us to another Israeli lie.

The five Arab armies lost to Israel.

What's the opposite of defeated Israel?

Duck!

Darn ducks, beating the disorganized Muslim rabble.....over and over and over.

So how big is the country of Palestine going to be?

Lichtenstein? Smaller?

The lie is that the Arab armies lost to Israel in 1948.

The fighting ended by the UN Security Council calling for an armistice. Nobody lost that war.

The fighting ended by the UN Security Council calling for an armistice.

We agree, the Arabs didn't win and Israel didn't lose.

The point is that the 5 Arab countries did not lose.

What did Lebanon lose?
What did Syria lose?
What did Jordan lose?
What did Iraq lose?
What did Egypt lose?

What?

Let's get back to Israel's two handed whopper. The Arab armies did not lose the 1948 war.

Are you going to believe legal UN documents or Israel's worldwide bullshit machine?

The Arab armies did not lose the 1948 war.

Looking at how much bigger Israel was after the 1948 war, compared to before, it's clear Israel won.

Are you going to believe legal UN documents

The ones signed by Israelis? Sure. And I'm going to believe maps. "Palestine" keeps getting smaller.

Tick-tock.

We should change the title of this thread to deflection.