Israelis Now Bombing Rafah Designated "Safe Zone" Where Civilians Have Been Pushed

[Billo_Really]

Of course Israel has sovereign title to those territories. Where do you think the borders of sovereign Israel are?

Not that area. It is an occupied territory. You cannot transfer title in an area under occupation.

 

[Billo_Really]

And if Hamas hides behind innocent civilians? If they launch rockets from the homes of innocent civilians? If they set up military depots under schools and hospitals? Why is it the fault of the Israelis when Hamas DELIBERATELY puts innocent civilians in the line of fire?

It is illegal for Hamas to do that. But when you look at the level of destruction Israel has inflicted in that area, it goes way beyond a few human shields and weapons depots.

BTW, Israel uses far more human shields than Hamas does. Do you know what a "Johnnie" is?

 

[Billo_Really]

That my friend is a lie! And I think you know it...yet you trotted it out anyway...which says volumes about you, Billo!

The rockets didn't start until 2001. The occupation started in 1967. Do the math!

 

[Billo_Really]

By using the term "occupation," eight decades after the fact, you are explicitly declaring that there is no possibility of peace in the area. Zero. None.

That is a question for Netanfuckyou! If Israel would end the occupation and allow the Palestinians freedom of movement, there would be peace in the region. But Israel doesn't want that.

 

[Billo_Really]

I am not a troll! Trolls don't respond to specific comments. I do. Trolls don't answer direct questions. I do.

You're just accusing me of being a troll because you have no argument with which to defend Israeli atrocities.

 

[Billo_Really]

It isn’t a country. How can it be occupied?

Because it is a territory that is occupied by a foreign force that has no sovereign title to that land.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Because it is a territory that is occupied by a foreign force that has no sovereign title to that land.

Is that what Jordan did?

 

[Grau]

I believe we can agree that Adolph Hitler is one of the most barbaric, cruel leaders in the history of the world. That doesn't mean he was stupid. He knew better than to put in writing to murder six million+ Jews.


So few dead?
Over 1,200 were murdered in one horrific terrorist attack on Israel. A proportionate attack on our country of 330+ million people would have resulted in 48,000 fatalities.

Do you know anything about the author of that piece, Dr. E. R. Fields?

Fields was active in several white supremacist political organizations, joining the Columbians, an anti-black and anti-Semitic group, in high school, and joining J. B. Stoner's Christian Anti-Jewish Party in 1952; he later served as its Executive Director. He was also a member of the American Anti-Communist Society in 1950 and 1951.[1][2]

In 1958, Fields founded the National States' Rights Party, which advocated racial segregation and white supremacy; he served as its National Director while Stoner served as its National Chairman. Fields edited the party's newspaper, The Thunderbolt. During this time period, he frequently wrote to print publications detailing his beliefs, for instance in 1969 a letter by Fields was published in Playboy, alleging, "we will never have law and order in America until all Negroes are deported back to Africa and completely removed from this nation that was founded and built by the great white race."[1]

Fields and the National States' Rights Party in 1963 were enlisted by Alabama Gov. George Wallace and state public safety chief Albert Lingo to create pretexts that Wallace used to order closed public schools that were slated for integration and to deploy state troopers—over the objections of local authorities—in communities otherwise determined to comply with federal court orders to desegregate.[3]

On December 27, 1963 Fields was brought to the United States Secret Service's attention as a possible threat against protected individuals. This was divulged as part of the John Fitzgerald Kennedy's assassination file release by the National Archives and Records Administration in 2017. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) considered that Fields was "one step removed from being insane."[4]

In 1976, following Alabama Attorney General Bill Baxley's opening of prosecution against the bombers of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Fields wrote a letter to Baxley, referring to him as an "honorary ******" and threatening to assassinate him. Baxley responded with his own letter the following day, telling Fields, "My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is - kiss my ass."[5]

Following J. B. Stoner's imprisonment for his involvement in the 1958 Bethel Baptist Church bombing, Fields lost the trust of many party members, largely due to his increasing activity with the Ku Klux Klan and decreasing involvement with the group, and was expelled from the party in August 1983. He continued publishing The Thunderbolt, but changed the newspaper's name to The Truth At Last. Fields founded the white supremacist America First Party in 1993, and spoke at the Populist Party's 1994 convention.[2]

Fields attended the 2001 funeral of Klansman Byron De La Beckwith, who murdered civil rights activist Medgar Evers.[6]

Edward Reed Fields - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Even though I lived, studied and worked in Germany over 50 years ago, have known, worked and/or lived with Holocaust survivors, former SS officers, Russian, British, American and French war Veterans and studied numerous documents in the original German, I try to keep an open mind and realize that objective people never stop learning.

Re:

He knew better than to put in writing to murder six million+ Jews.

There are written orders from Eisenhower to starve nearly one million German POWs, there are written orders from Stalin for mass murder, there are written orders from Churchill to "roast" civilian German refugees and there are written orders from Pol Pot and Mao for additional mass murders.

It would have been impossible to carry out a Holocaust, as advertised, without clear and specific orders from Hitler which do not exist anywhere.

If there were really a genocidal German agenda, it would have been mentioned in at least one of the thousands of intercepted German radio transmissions but it is not.
Why?

The radio transmissions concerning the work camps report deaths by shooting, hanging and disease but nothing about herding people into fictitious homicidal Gas chambers etc.
(1)

Re:

I believe we can agree that Adolph Hitler is one of the most barbaric, cruel leaders in the history of the world.

First, please note that:
"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
George Orwell

Any objective study of Hitler must account for the fact that both sides in the European theater used atrocity propaganda only Axis propaganda shut down in 1945 while Hollywood continues churning out the same anti German Allied propaganda it began with in 1945's movie "Death Mills" by Billy Wilder. (2)

When I hear pronouncements like: "

Adolph Hitler is one of the most barbaric, cruel leaders in the history of the world.

Two things come to mind.
The first is that the speaker must not be aware of the many other individuals obscured from us by the same anti German MSM like Ginrikh Yagota, Leonid Reichman (3) and the ruthless leaders of the early Communist / Bolshevik Party.

Far more people have been butchered by Communist individuals like Yagota etc but protracted anti German bias compels MSM to churn out an unsupportable standard Holocaust narrative.

I have already written extensively on this topic and supported my assertions with credible sources.

Most responses to what I've written have been the usual snarky and insulting, fact-free "One Liners" from people incapable of refuting anything I've written and supported.

By now, I should be clear that I abhor all forms of totalitarianism (neo-Nazism etc), do not tolerate any form of racism and do not deny that the Holocaust happened.

Since it is commonly known that the victors write the history, I am not surprised at MSM's conventional anti German bias but have found it to be inconsistent with recently emerging facts.

For example "Everybody knows...." that Hitler hated Jews but no one can explain why he chose to have a Jewish doctor, Jewish driver or decided to honor Jews who had served Germany in WW 1. (4)

If Hitler really hated Jews simply for being Jewish, why were there high ranking Jews both in the National Socialist party and in Hitler's military with his full knowledge and approval. (5), (6)

Next, Hitler's scope of Jewish friends ranged from the Jewish artists and art dealers in Vienna to a young Jewish girl, Rosa Nienau, who was his "Pen Pal" (Below)

'The Fuhrer's Child': How Hitler Came To Adore A Girl With Jewish Roots

'The Fuhrer's Child': How Hitler Came To Adore A Girl With Jewish Roots

The little girl was Adolf Hitler's favorite.

www.ndtv.com

EXCERPT "The little girl was Adolf Hitler's favorite.

They shared the same birthday, April 20. She called him Uncle Hitler and was known as "the Fuhrer's child." She was so adored by the Nazi leader that his personal photographer frequently snapped pictures of the two them holding hands, exchanging kisses on the cheek, or just smiling at each other. Hitler refused to cut off contact with her even after he was told she had a Jewish grandmother." CONTINUED

Reo you know anything about the author of that piece, Dr. E. R. Fields?

The author is not the source of the numbers and dates which were provided by the American Jewish Committee.

The author is just the messenger but the facts remain the same.

Thanks,




(1). "The Enemy Is Listening!"
https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/8/1/4028

EXCERPT "Oddly, only a very few Holocaust historians were interested in the information on the concentration camps. The reason for this astonishing lack of interest is presumably due to the following remark by author Hinsley:

The messages from Auschwitz, the largest camp, with 20,000 inmates,[4] mention disease as the chief cause of death, but also include references to executions by hanging and shooting. The decoded messages contain no references to gassings.

To sum up, the following facts may be considered established: The messages deciphered at Bletchley Park undoubtedly constitute one of the most reliable sources on the course of events during the Second World War.

They provide information on undertakings of the German army, navy, and air force. They provide an insight into the events occurring behind the Russian front and the conditions in the concentration camps.

Since the reports from Auschwitz contain no information on mass killings, the question of whether the British Intelligence Service "knew about the Holocaust," can be answered with a single word: "No!. CONTINUED



(2). “The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”

The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The Director of the Holocaust - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as...

archive.org

EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe." CONTINUED



(3). "Stalin's Jews"

"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED



(4). "When Hitler Honored Jewish Soldiers"

When Hitler honored Jewish soldiers

The Nazi Regime Conferred Honors on Many of the 100,000 Jews Who Fought in the German Army in the Great War, Even on Some Who Had Already Escaped to Palestine.

www.haaretz.com

EXCERPT "The Nazi regime conferred honors on many of the 100,000 Jews who fought in the German army in the Great War, even on some who had already escaped to Palestine." CONTINUED



(5) “List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

EXCERPT “Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent. “ CONTINUED


(6). “Hitler's Jewish Army”


EXCERPTS "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's knowledge and approval.

Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including:

Two field marshals, Fifteen generals, Two full generals,

Eight lieutenant generals,

Five major generals,"commanding up to 100,000 troops."

In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross." CONTINUED



(7). “5 Jews Hitler Actually Liked”

History of Yesterday: Uncovering the Events That Shaped Our World

History of Yesterday delves into the rich tapestry of our past to uncover the people, events, and cultures that have shaped the world we know today.

historyofyesterday.com

EXCERPT “Surprisingly, during this time in his life, Hitler also had extremely good relationships with Jewish people. At his house in Vienna, almost all of his friends were Jewish, with Josef Neumann being the closest.

And when Hitler took over Germany, he spared some of his old Jewish friends, kept some in his party, and even formed new friendships.” CONTINUED

 

[ShahdagMountains]

and allow the Palestinians freedom of movement

They did have. And look what happened. Bus and restaurant bombings on a daily basis.

 

[Oldestyle]

The rockets didn't start until 2001. The occupation started in 1967. Do the math!

Gee, what was it that happened in 2001? Oh that's right...the Israelis closed the border after repeated terror attacks from Palestinians crossing over into Israel!

So when your "peace loving" Palestinians couldn't get into Israel to conduct terror attacks...what did they do next? They started using mortar and rocket attacks instead. Do you want to know how MANY rockets they've launched into Israel since then?

Rocket & Mortar Attacks Against Israel by Date

Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks against Israel.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

 

[Billo_Really]

Is that what Jordan did?

It doesn't matter what Jordan did. They are not occupying that land.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Even though I lived, studied and worked in Germany over 50 years ago, have known, worked and/or lived with Holocaust survivors, former SS officers, Russian, British, American and French war Veterans and studied numerous documents in the original German, I try to keep an open mind and realize that objective people never stop learning.

You go to an awful amount of trouble, to try to convince us of…..something; that seems to matter a great deal to you.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

It doesn't matter what Jordan did. They are not occupying that land.

No comment.

 

[Billo_Really]

Gee, what was it that happened in 2001? Oh that's right...the Israelis closed the border after repeated terror attacks from Palestinians crossing over into Israel!

So when your "peace loving" Palestinians couldn't get into Israel to conduct terror attacks...what did they do next? They started using mortar and rocket attacks instead. Do you want to know how MANY rockets they've launched into Israel since then?

Rocket & Mortar Attacks Against Israel by Date

Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks against Israel.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

Palestinians have every right in the world to resist the occupation of their homeland from a foreign force.

 

[Oldestyle]

Palestinians have every right in the world to resist the occupation of their homeland from a foreign force.

Firing rockets into civilian areas of Israel is their "right", Billo? That's another violation of the Geneva Convention.

 

[Billo_Really]

Firing rockets into civilian areas of Israel is their "right", Billo? That's another violation of the Geneva Convention.

You're right! They have a right to resist, but the way they are doing it is a war crime.

 

[Oldestyle]

You're right! They have a right to resist, but the way they are doing it is a war crime.

So basically they've been committing "war crimes" on practically a daily basis since 2001?

 

[Billo_Really]

So basically they've been committing "war crimes" on practically a daily basis since 2001?

Yes, that is correct!

 

[Shusha]

Not that area. It is an occupied territory. You cannot transfer title in an area under occupation.

Title was transferred to Israel in 1948. There was no other state in 1948 who had sovereign title to any of that territory, only Israel. There were no borders dividing the Mandate of Palestine when the title transferred to Israel. You can't time travel, you know. You can't pretend that the 1967 "borders" existed in 1948.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Just what I said. Israel has no title to that land. And they will never have title to it. That area is considered an occupied territory according to international law.

Israel has no title to that land. And they will never have title to it.

Palestine has no title to that land. And they will never have title to it.
Palestine doesn't exist. Palestine never existed.