Israeli Settlers Teach Their Children To Kill Early

[pbel]

1948 Mandate Palestine contained approximately 650,000 Jews and twice that many Arabs.
Do you agree?

So?[IMG]http://www.pic4ever.com/images/mornincoffee.gif[/IMG]

And so it is with your Religious right wing Israeli mindset: Acts of aggression can be used to conquer land from your perceived enemies...

With that logic and action then the Arabs may in the future invade Israel through a coordinated attack by the masses to regain the land and be justified by the rules of war. Or any act to regain land by acts of War.

The only problem in Palestine is that the Palestinians did not have an Army and there they were a civilian population now occupied under the UN.

People have the right to resist occupation or make a Real peace.

 

[MHunterB]

"With that logic and action then the Arabs may in the future invade Israel through a coordinated attack by the masses to regain the land and be justified by the rules of war. Or any act to regain land by acts of War."

They've tried that about five times already, starting in '48 - it hasn't been a notable success.

 

[pbel]

"With that logic and action then the Arabs may in the future invade Israel through a coordinated attack by the masses to regain the land and be justified by the rules of war. Or any act to regain land by acts of War."

They've tried that about five times already, starting in '48 - it hasn't been a notable success.

You are only looking at the short term...Israel is definately a Super War Power especially with American made weaponry. Israel was an American outpost after WWII to protect our strategic interests in the area, namely oil.

Our reliance on ME oil is only 18% in this area. By arming Israel to protect them from the Islamic Horde Our "made in the USA bombs" make Muslims our enemies...

Its time for America to serve its own Interests and let the Europeans, the Israelis, and Arabs to pay for their strategic interests and end war and spend that money here.

That's Our National Interest.

 

[toastman]

"With that logic and action then the Arabs may in the future invade Israel through a coordinated attack by the masses to regain the land and be justified by the rules of war. Or any act to regain land by acts of War."

They've tried that about five times already, starting in '48 - it hasn't been a notable success.

You are only looking at the short term...Israel is definately a Super War Power especially with American made weaponry. Israel was an American outpost after WWII to protect our strategic interests in the area, namely oil.

Our reliance on ME oil is only 18% in this area. By arming Israel to protect them from the Islamic Horde Our "made in the USA bombs" make Muslims our enemies...

Its time for America to serve its own Interests and let the Europeans, the Israelis, and Arabs to pay for their strategic interests and end war and spend that money here.

That's Our National Interest.

Israel and the U.S will ALWAYS be allies, you people need to understand that.
The only way Israel will cease to exist is if you nuke her ! But any country that does that will cease to exist as well....

 

[toastman]

1948 Mandate Palestine contained approximately 650,000 Jews and twice that many Arabs.
Do you agree?

So?[IMG]http://www.pic4ever.com/images/mornincoffee.gif[/IMG]

And so it is with your Religious right wing Israeli mindset: Acts of aggression can be used to conquer land from your perceived enemies...

With that logic and action then the Arabs may in the future invade Israel through a coordinated attack by the masses to regain the land and be justified by the rules of war. Or any act to regain land by acts of War.

The only problem in Palestine is that the Palestinians did not have an Army and there they were a civilian population now occupied under the UN.

People have the right to resist occupation or make a Real peace.

Israel didn't have an army in 1948, what's your point ???

Israel conquered the land when they were being attacked, you Islamic pig

 

[irosie91]

Toast you do not understand SHARIAH LAW (which was invented by a "god") According to Shariah law ---jews are not permitted to defend themselves from muslim aggression. In Shariah shit holes----jews are denied the right to own or use any weapons at all ----even in places where wild animals live Jews who travel can do so in such places only by hiring muslims to accompany them In order to understand how horrified are muslims over the fact that jews actually fought them and actually won-----you have to know some of the details of the "HOLY LAW" created by their "god" which they truly believe is utterly DIVINE and cannot be breached. A jew holding a gun simply does not register in their minds------but they decorate their own bodies with ARSENALS In the land of my husband's birth----muslims walk around PROUDLY with handgrenades hanging off of themselves as ORNAMENTS it is their way of PROUDLY declaring their religious piety

 

[georgephillip]

"With that logic and action then the Arabs may in the future invade Israel through a coordinated attack by the masses to regain the land and be justified by the rules of war. Or any act to regain land by acts of War."

They've tried that about five times already, starting in '48 - it hasn't been a notable success.

You are only looking at the short term...Israel is definately a Super War Power especially with American made weaponry. Israel was an American outpost after WWII to protect our strategic interests in the area, namely oil.

Our reliance on ME oil is only 18% in this area. By arming Israel to protect them from the Islamic Horde Our "made in the USA bombs" make Muslims our enemies...

Its time for America to serve its own Interests and let the Europeans, the Israelis, and Arabs to pay for their strategic interests and end war and spend that money here.

That's Our National Interest.

Israel and the U.S will ALWAYS be allies, you people need to understand that.
The only way Israel will cease to exist is if you nuke her ! But any country that does that will cease to exist as well....

Nation States NEVER have permanent friends or enemies, only permanent Interests.
When US elites no longer need the Jewish State it will vanish as quickly as White South Africa or South Vietnam.

Nuclear weapon are NOT the likely option:

"SWIFT links 8,740 financial institutions in 209 countries. Without access to SWIFT and its interbank payment network, countries are unable either to pay for imports or to receive payment for exports. In short, no payment — no trade.

"Should it come to a point where trade sanctions are imposed on Israel, it may be able to evade them.

"Instead of chasing trade sanctions-busters and plugging loopholes, it is both faster and much more effective to suspend the payment system."

Terry Crawford-Browne: To end the occupation, cripple Israeli banks | Israeli Occupation Archive

 

[Hossfly]

1948 Mandate Palestine contained approximately 650,000 Jews and twice that many Arabs.
Do you agree?

So?[IMG]http://www.pic4ever.com/images/mornincoffee.gif[/IMG]

And so it is with your Religious right wing Israeli mindset: Acts of aggression can be used to conquer land from your perceived enemies...

With that logic and action then the Arabs may in the future invade Israel through a coordinated attack by the masses to regain the land and be justified by the rules of war. Or any act to regain land by acts of War.

The only problem in Palestine is that the Palestinians did not have an Army and there they were a civilian population now occupied under the UN.

People have the right to resist occupation or make a Real peace.

Pbel, have you ever considered how the Muslims have gotten all that land in the Middle East when most of these countries were basically inhabited by Christians before the Muslims left the Saudi Peninsula and forced people to convert, killing many who refused. Pbel seems like the perfect Dhimwit and wouldn't care if the Muslims develop a worldwide caliphate, which many Muslims would like to do.
Egyptian Islamic Jihad

 

[toomuchtime_]

You are only looking at the short term...Israel is definately a Super War Power especially with American made weaponry. Israel was an American outpost after WWII to protect our strategic interests in the area, namely oil.

Our reliance on ME oil is only 18% in this area. By arming Israel to protect them from the Islamic Horde Our "made in the USA bombs" make Muslims our enemies...

Its time for America to serve its own Interests and let the Europeans, the Israelis, and Arabs to pay for their strategic interests and end war and spend that money here.

That's Our National Interest.

Israel and the U.S will ALWAYS be allies, you people need to understand that.
The only way Israel will cease to exist is if you nuke her ! But any country that does that will cease to exist as well....

Nation States NEVER have permanent friends or enemies, only permanent Interests.
When US elites no longer need the Jewish State it will vanish as quickly as White South Africa or South Vietnam.

Nuclear weapon are NOT the likely option:

"SWIFT links 8,740 financial institutions in 209 countries. Without access to SWIFT and its interbank payment network, countries are unable either to pay for imports or to receive payment for exports. In short, no payment — no trade.

"Should it come to a point where trade sanctions are imposed on Israel, it may be able to evade them.

"Instead of chasing trade sanctions-busters and plugging loopholes, it is both faster and much more effective to suspend the payment system."

Terry Crawford-Browne: To end the occupation, cripple Israeli banks | Israeli Occupation Archive

Silly stuff. Although SWIFT is Belgian company that provides secure messaging between financial institutions that facilitates transactions, it is under the effective control of the US Treasury so saying SWIFT might be used to punish Israel is equivalent to saying the US would turn against Israel, and there are no indications that will happen anytime in the foreseeable future.

 

[irosie91]

hope springs eternal in the islamo nazi pig heart

 

[SAYIT]

1948 Mandate Palestine contained approximately 650,000 Jews and twice that many Arabs.
Do you agree?

So?

So the future of Mandate Palestine should have been decided by ballots, not bullets in 1948.

Mandate Palestine was not a country nor was there a mechanism for elections and the Brits were not in the business of establishing democracies.
There was a non-binding UN resolution which suggested a peaceful resolution to the conflicting nationalist aspirations of the people. The soon-to-be Israelis thought a peaceful resolution was the way to go and went about the work of establishing a country. The Arabs took a somewhat different route.
The result?
Israel - 23,000 days of STATEHOOD and still winning!
"Palestine" - 0 days of statehood and still WHINING!

 

[SAYIT]

Israel's version of democracy is only allowing the people they like the opportunity to vote.

Liar.
All of Israel's citizens have the right to vote in Israeli elections, including her 1.2 million Arab citizens, just as all American citizens can vote in our elections.

When do the millions of Arabs living under Israeli military law in Area C, for example, get a vote in Israeli elections?

If they were to apply for and gain Israeli citizenship - as Jerusalem's "Palestinians" have been doing in increasing numbers - they would be eligible to vote. Area C is not part of Israel.

 

[georgephillip]

Where do the universal rights of popular sovereignty and self-determination fit into your fable?
Elections in Mandate Palestine would not have been hard to organize.
Free elections that resulted in a Jewish State would have been impossible.

That non-binding resolution you mentioned gave those who owned 16% of Mandate Palestine 55% of the land. Where's the mechanism for that?

 

[georgephillip]

Liar.
All of Israel's citizens have the right to vote in Israeli elections, including her 1.2 million Arab citizens, just as all American citizens can vote in our elections.

When do the millions of Arabs living under Israeli military law in Area C, for example, get a vote in Israeli elections?

If they were to apply for and gain Israeli citizenship - as Jerusalem's "Palestinians" have been doing in increasing numbers - they would be eligible to vote. Area C is not part of Israel.

Non-Jewish residents of Area C are subject to Israeli laws and pay Israeli taxes.
Since Israel confers different levels of popular sovereignty based on citizenship and nationality those Jerusalem Palestinians will still be second class citizens, at best.

 

[SAYIT]

Israel's version of democracy is only allowing the people they like the opportunity to vote.

Liar.
All of Israel's citizens have the right to vote in Israeli elections, including her 1.2 million Arab citizens, just as all American citizens can vote in our elections.

Not a lie at all. When the foreigners wanted to create a state in Palestine they did not have popular support so they drove 750,000 potential "no votes" off the polls at the point of a gun. These people still cannot vote for their government in their homeland.

You are trying to change the subject, Princess, and your claim that "Israel's version of democracy is only allowing the people they like the opportunity to vote" remains a blatant lie.
All Israeli citizens, including her 1.2 million Arab citizens, have the right to vote in Israeli elections.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Israel's version of democracy is only allowing the people they like the opportunity to vote.

Liar.
All of Israel's citizens have the right to vote in Israeli elections, including her 1.2 million Arab citizens, just as all American citizens can vote in our elections.

When do the millions of Arabs living under Israeli military law in Area C, for example, get a vote in Israeli elections?

Only about 50,000 Palestinian Arabs live in Area C along with nearly 600,000 Israelis. These Arabs are technically under the PA; they are taxed by the PA and have the right to vote in PA elections. They are Palestinian expatriates living in an Area governed by the Israeli Civil Administration, just as there are about 150,000 American expatriates living in Israel.

 

[Lipush]

Liar.
All of Israel's citizens have the right to vote in Israeli elections, including her 1.2 million Arab citizens, just as all American citizens can vote in our elections.

Not a lie at all. When the foreigners wanted to create a state in Palestine they did not have popular support so they drove 750,000 potential "no votes" off the polls at the point of a gun. These people still cannot vote for their government in their homeland.

You are trying to change the subject, Princess, and your claim that "Israel's version of democracy is only allowing the people they like the opportunity to vote" remains a blatant lie.
All Israeli citizens, including her 1.2 million Arab citizens, have the right to vote in Israeli elections.

Yes indeedie.

 

[toomuchtime_]

When do the millions of Arabs living under Israeli military law in Area C, for example, get a vote in Israeli elections?

If they were to apply for and gain Israeli citizenship - as Jerusalem's "Palestinians" have been doing in increasing numbers - they would be eligible to vote. Area C is not part of Israel.

Non-Jewish residents of Area C are subject to Israeli laws and pay Israeli taxes.
Since Israel confers different levels of popular sovereignty based on citizenship and nationality those Jerusalem Palestinians will still be second class citizens, at best.

Wrong on all counts. Palestinian Arabs living in Area C are considered citizens of the PA and are required to pay PA taxes, not Israeli taxes. All Israeli citizens are equal under the law.

 

[georgephillip]

Israel and the U.S will ALWAYS be allies, you people need to understand that.
The only way Israel will cease to exist is if you nuke her ! But any country that does that will cease to exist as well....

Nation States NEVER have permanent friends or enemies, only permanent Interests.
When US elites no longer need the Jewish State it will vanish as quickly as White South Africa or South Vietnam.

Nuclear weapon are NOT the likely option:

"SWIFT links 8,740 financial institutions in 209 countries. Without access to SWIFT and its interbank payment network, countries are unable either to pay for imports or to receive payment for exports. In short, no payment — no trade.

"Should it come to a point where trade sanctions are imposed on Israel, it may be able to evade them.

"Instead of chasing trade sanctions-busters and plugging loopholes, it is both faster and much more effective to suspend the payment system."

Terry Crawford-Browne: To end the occupation, cripple Israeli banks | Israeli Occupation Archive

Silly stuff. Although SWIFT is Belgian company that provides secure messaging between financial institutions that facilitates transactions, it is under the effective control of the US Treasury so saying SWIFT might be used to punish Israel is equivalent to saying the US would turn against Israel, and there are no indications that will happen anytime in the foreseeable future.

Another instance of "silly stuff" like Israel's assault on the USS Liberty will result in the US taxpayer turning on Israel.

"The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy torpedo boats, on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War.[2] The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and one civilian), wounded 170 crew members, and severely damaged the ship.[3] At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai .."

USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[pbel]

So?[IMG]http://www.pic4ever.com/images/mornincoffee.gif[/IMG]

And so it is with your Religious right wing Israeli mindset: Acts of aggression can be used to conquer land from your perceived enemies...

With that logic and action then the Arabs may in the future invade Israel through a coordinated attack by the masses to regain the land and be justified by the rules of war. Or any act to regain land by acts of War.

The only problem in Palestine is that the Palestinians did not have an Army and there they were a civilian population now occupied under the UN.

People have the right to resist occupation or make a Real peace.

Pbel, have you ever considered how the Muslims have gotten all that land in the Middle East when most of these countries were basically inhabited by Christians before the Muslims left the Saudi Peninsula and forced people to convert, killing many who refused. Pbel seems like the perfect Dhimwit and wouldn't care if the Muslims develop a worldwide caliphate, which many Muslims would like to do.
Egyptian Islamic Jihad

Hoss the Religious war between Israel and Islam is not of our concern. This religious war was started when the occupation of Arab Muslim Lands when Israel went beyond its 67 borders...It has always been the aggressor since its inception was forced on the indiginous residents as occupied.