Israeli doctors accused of collusion in torture

[P F Tinmore]

When you consider what Hamas does to it's own people, Israeli prisons are like Club Med.

Hideous torture inflicted by HAMAS members on a suspected "collaborator in Gaza - YouTube

Collaborators kill.

They are not very popular in Gaza.

 

[pbel]

Pbel and Sherri, do research on Israeli Dr. Raz Somech.

That's what being an Israeli doctor IS all about.

unless you wish to stay ignorant.

The thing is, when religious and Nationalists take over a country, humanity leaves the room, viz...WWll Germany...This unbelievable 70 year hatred and continuos friction and wars made good people Mad...

Justice and humanity are the second and third victims of war, the truth being the first.

 

[Lipush]

Your point being....

 

[irosie91]

When you consider what Hamas does to it's own people, Israeli prisons are like Club Med.

Hideous torture inflicted by HAMAS members on a suspected "collaborator in Gaza - YouTube

Collaborators kill.

They are not very popular in Gaza.

Islamic terrorists like piece of shit SAMER----also kill Persons accused
or sentenced are supposed to ALL have rights-----a concept that islamo-nazi
dogs simply do not comprehend -----but what can be expected from people
who like the shit off the asses of jihadists who slit the throats of infants
in the name of allah, isa, and the rapist dog

 

[Roudy]

When you consider what Hamas does to it's own people, Israeli prisons are like Club Med.

Hideous torture inflicted by HAMAS members on a suspected "collaborator in Gaza - YouTube

Collaborators kill.

They are not very popular in Gaza.

Oh so you're okay with this public savagery and barbarism against a person who might disagree with a bunch of IslamoNazi terrorists named Hamas. Get lost you immoral fuckwad.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1fnmVpVtoQ]Palestinians torturing Palestinians while the world turns a blind eye - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

When you consider what Hamas does to it's own people, Israeli prisons are like Club Med.

Hideous torture inflicted by HAMAS members on a suspected "collaborator in Gaza - YouTube

Collaborators kill.

They are not very popular in Gaza.

Oh so you're okay with this public savagery and barbarism against a person who might disagree with a bunch of IslamoNazi terrorists named Hamas. Get lost you immoral fuckwad.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1fnmVpVtoQ]Palestinians torturing Palestinians while the world turns a blind eye - YouTube[/ame]

Collaborators kill.

That is not just a disagreement.

 

[irosie91]

Collaborators kill.

They are not very popular in Gaza.

Oh so you're okay with this public savagery and barbarism against a person who might disagree with a bunch of IslamoNazi terrorists named Hamas. Get lost you immoral fuckwad.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1fnmVpVtoQ]Palestinians torturing Palestinians while the world turns a blind eye - YouTube[/ame]

Collaborators kill.

That is not just a disagreement.

Roudy try to understand tinny supports pali-pig barbarity and savagery
and sees no reason why his fellow islamo nazi slobs should adhere to even
minmal standards of human conduct why are you so surprised?

 

[Roudy]

Collaborators kill.

They are not very popular in Gaza.

Oh so you're okay with this public savagery and barbarism against a person who might disagree with a bunch of IslamoNazi terrorists named Hamas. Get lost you immoral fuckwad.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1fnmVpVtoQ]Palestinians torturing Palestinians while the world turns a blind eye - YouTube[/ame]

Collaborators kill.

That is not just a disagreement.

Eh? Hamas does this shit to anybody that goes against them. Including collaborators.

So let's get this straight, you agree with this barbaric system of "justice"? How do we know if this man is "guilty"? Is this how far you terrorist ass lickers will go to justify Hamas Islamic savagery?

Then you shouldn't be complaining about an animal that throws firebombs for a living. Those things kill too. He got what was coming to him.

 

[Roudy]

Oh so you're okay with this public savagery and barbarism against a person who might disagree with a bunch of IslamoNazi terrorists named Hamas. Get lost you immoral fuckwad.

Palestinians torturing Palestinians while the world turns a blind eye - YouTube

Collaborators kill.

That is not just a disagreement.

Roudy try to understand tinny supports pali-pig barbarity and savagery
and sees no reason why his fellow islamo nazi slobs should adhere to even
minmal standards of human conduct why are you so surprised?

Yeah why should we expect them to act anything better than animals. It's too high standard. But Israelis should treat these same animals with kid gloves. Ha ha ha.

 

[Coyote]

Collaborators kill.

That is not just a disagreement.

Roudy try to understand tinny supports pali-pig barbarity and savagery
and sees no reason why his fellow islamo nazi slobs should adhere to even
minmal standards of human conduct why are you so surprised?

Yeah why should we expect them to act anything better than animals. It's too high standard. But Israelis should treat these same animals with kid gloves. Ha ha ha.

They treat these animals with kid gloves, so why not? Irosie, what about these barbaric savages?


9-year old Palestinian child injured in Israeli settler attack
CPT: Settlers Injure Palestinian with Stones

 

[High_Gravity]

Collaborators kill.

They are not very popular in Gaza.

Oh so you're okay with this public savagery and barbarism against a person who might disagree with a bunch of IslamoNazi terrorists named Hamas. Get lost you immoral fuckwad.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1fnmVpVtoQ]Palestinians torturing Palestinians while the world turns a blind eye - YouTube[/ame]

Collaborators kill.

That is not just a disagreement.

So these are the people who are going to build this wonderful democracy you keep telling us about tinmore?

 

[Roudy]

Roudy try to understand tinny supports pali-pig barbarity and savagery
and sees no reason why his fellow islamo nazi slobs should adhere to even
minmal standards of human conduct why are you so surprised?

Yeah why should we expect them to act anything better than animals. It's too high standard. But Israelis should treat these same animals with kid gloves. Ha ha ha.

They treat these animals with kid gloves, so why not? Irosie, what about these barbaric savages?


9-year old Palestinian child injured in Israeli settler attack
CPT: Settlers Injure Palestinian with Stones

Unlike Palestinian society, these acts are forbidden and they will be prosecuted. And the people that commit those crimes aren't put on "pedestals" and heralded and freedom fighting heroes.

I hope you understand the difference.

 

[Roudy]

Oh so you're okay with this public savagery and barbarism against a person who might disagree with a bunch of IslamoNazi terrorists named Hamas. Get lost you immoral fuckwad.

Palestinians torturing Palestinians while the world turns a blind eye - YouTube

Collaborators kill.

That is not just a disagreement.

So these are the people who are going to build this wonderful democracy you keep telling us about tinmore?

Tinmore doesn't want a "democracy" he wants Israel destroyed, just like Hamas.

 

[Coyote]

Yeah why should we expect them to act anything better than animals. It's too high standard. But Israelis should treat these same animals with kid gloves. Ha ha ha.

They treat these animals with kid gloves, so why not? Irosie, what about these barbaric savages?


9-year old Palestinian child injured in Israeli settler attack
CPT: Settlers Injure Palestinian with Stones

Unlike Palestinian society, these acts are forbidden and they will be prosecuted. And the people that commit those crimes aren't put on "pedestals" and heralded and freedom fighting heroes.

I hope you understand the difference.

They usually aren't. I hope you understand reality.

 

[Roudy]

They treat these animals with kid gloves, so why not? Irosie, what about these barbaric savages?


9-year old Palestinian child injured in Israeli settler attack
CPT: Settlers Injure Palestinian with Stones

Unlike Palestinian society, these acts are forbidden and they will be prosecuted. And the people that commit those crimes aren't put on "pedestals" and heralded and freedom fighting heroes.

I hope you understand the difference.

They usually aren't. I hope you understand reality.

Really? Where do you get your info? Israel is a Western Style Democracy and a country of laws.

Israel arrests settlers suspected of W.Bank attacks | Reuters

Dec 3 (Reuters) - Israeli police arrested three Jewish settlers on Monday whom they suspect of arson and other attacks on Palestinian property in the occupied West Bank.

At a time of heightened diplomatic tension over claims to the land, the men were found carrying fuel and spikes shortly after a car was torched in a Palestinian village near Hebron. A police spokesman said they had appeared to be about to conduct a second attack in another village nearby when they were detained.

3 Israeli settlers arrested over attack on police car - CNN

Then, on June 7, there was an attempt to set fire to the mosque in the West Bank village of Al-Mughayyir, near the Alei Ayin outpost.

The words "Price Tag" and "Alei Ayin" were sprayed in Hebrew on the outer walls of the mosque.

"Price tag" attack is a term used by radical Israeli settlers to denote reprisal attacks against Palestinians in response to moves by the Israeli government to evacuate illegal West Bank outposts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/world/middleeast/03mideast.html?_r=0

Israel Arrests Settlers Fighting Freeze

EFRAT, West Bank — The Israeli police made their first arrests on Wednesday as part of the state’s effort to enforce a temporary construction freeze in Jewish settlements in the West Bank, briefly detaining the mayor of a settler council and at least two Jewish protesters. Both sides are trying hard to show how determined they are — the state in enforcing the moratorium, and the settlers in thwarting the state’s plans.

Now, show me again when Hamas did anything other than plan acts of terror and violence against Israelis.

 

[Coyote]

Unlike Palestinian society, these acts are forbidden and they will be prosecuted. And the people that commit those crimes aren't put on "pedestals" and heralded and freedom fighting heroes.

I hope you understand the difference.

They usually aren't. I hope you understand reality.

Really? Where do you get your info? Israel is a Western Style Democracy and a country of laws.

Israel arrests settlers suspected of W.Bank attacks | Reuters

Dec 3 (Reuters) - Israeli police arrested three Jewish settlers on Monday whom they suspect of arson and other attacks on Palestinian property in the occupied West Bank.

At a time of heightened diplomatic tension over claims to the land, the men were found carrying fuel and spikes shortly after a car was torched in a Palestinian village near Hebron. A police spokesman said they had appeared to be about to conduct a second attack in another village nearby when they were detained.

3 Israeli settlers arrested over attack on police car - CNN

Then, on June 7, there was an attempt to set fire to the mosque in the West Bank village of Al-Mughayyir, near the Alei Ayin outpost.

The words "Price Tag" and "Alei Ayin" were sprayed in Hebrew on the outer walls of the mosque.

"Price tag" attack is a term used by radical Israeli settlers to denote reprisal attacks against Palestinians in response to moves by the Israeli government to evacuate illegal West Bank outposts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/world/middleeast/03mideast.html?_r=0

Israel Arrests Settlers Fighting Freeze

EFRAT, West Bank — The Israeli police made their first arrests on Wednesday as part of the state’s effort to enforce a temporary construction freeze in Jewish settlements in the West Bank, briefly detaining the mayor of a settler council and at least two Jewish protesters. Both sides are trying hard to show how determined they are — the state in enforcing the moratorium, and the settlers in thwarting the state’s plans.

Now, show me again when Hamas did anything other than plan acts of terror and violence against Israelis.

We are not talking about Hamas. Typical deflection though.

I'm sure you can find examples where Israeli's have prosecuted Jewish attacks against Palestinians - but that doesn't change the over all picture: such attacks are seldom prosecuted, particularly without pressure from human rights groups. The system of justice is far from equal here..

Thanks to B'tselem more of them are but no where near the degree that Palestinian attacks against Israeli settlers are:

B’Tselem’s work in documenting and exposing human rights violations in the occupied territories has been so extensive that mere mention of B'Tselem vexes Israeli settlers and soldiers alike. Its consistent success in bringing hundreds of cases against settlers and soldiers to the Supreme Court has earned it Israeli ire and Palestinian praise.

Israeli Center Keeps Focus On Human Rights - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

 

[Roudy]

They usually aren't. I hope you understand reality.

Really? Where do you get your info? Israel is a Western Style Democracy and a country of laws.

Israel arrests settlers suspected of W.Bank attacks | Reuters

Dec 3 (Reuters) - Israeli police arrested three Jewish settlers on Monday whom they suspect of arson and other attacks on Palestinian property in the occupied West Bank.

At a time of heightened diplomatic tension over claims to the land, the men were found carrying fuel and spikes shortly after a car was torched in a Palestinian village near Hebron. A police spokesman said they had appeared to be about to conduct a second attack in another village nearby when they were detained.

3 Israeli settlers arrested over attack on police car - CNN

Then, on June 7, there was an attempt to set fire to the mosque in the West Bank village of Al-Mughayyir, near the Alei Ayin outpost.

The words "Price Tag" and "Alei Ayin" were sprayed in Hebrew on the outer walls of the mosque.

"Price tag" attack is a term used by radical Israeli settlers to denote reprisal attacks against Palestinians in response to moves by the Israeli government to evacuate illegal West Bank outposts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/world/middleeast/03mideast.html?_r=0

Israel Arrests Settlers Fighting Freeze

EFRAT, West Bank — The Israeli police made their first arrests on Wednesday as part of the state’s effort to enforce a temporary construction freeze in Jewish settlements in the West Bank, briefly detaining the mayor of a settler council and at least two Jewish protesters. Both sides are trying hard to show how determined they are — the state in enforcing the moratorium, and the settlers in thwarting the state’s plans.

Now, show me again when Hamas did anything other than plan acts of terror and violence against Israelis.

We are not talking about Hamas. Typical deflection though.

I'm sure you can find examples where Israeli's have prosecuted Jewish attacks against Palestinians - but that doesn't change the over all picture: such attacks are seldom prosecuted, particularly without pressure from human rights groups. The system of justice is far from equal here..

Thanks to B'tselem more of them are but no where near the degree that Palestinian attacks against Israeli settlers are:

B’Tselem’s work in documenting and exposing human rights violations in the occupied territories has been so extensive that mere mention of B'Tselem vexes Israeli settlers and soldiers alike. Its consistent success in bringing hundreds of cases against settlers and soldiers to the Supreme Court has earned it Israeli ire and Palestinian praise.

Israeli Center Keeps Focus On Human Rights - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

True equality does not exist anywhere, even right here in the US. We are talking about there being laws against violence against Arab Muslims, and prosecuting such crimes, which exists in Israel.

On the other hand no such laws against violence upon Jews exist on the Palestinian side (in fact, terror, murder, and violence upon Jews is the leadership's stated goal) and you weren't able to give me an example of it.

Instead you posted something from an Arab propaganda site dedicated to incite hatred against Israel, named Al-Monitor, with these kinds of articles:

Israeli Court Rejects Gaza War Crime Case Mohammed Suliman
Islamic Jihad to Run In Palestinian Elections Abeer Ayyoub
Exclusive: Gaza Salafists Take Fight to Syria Asmaa al-Ghoul
Israel Arresting Children To Prevent Third Intifada

 

[Coyote]

True equality does not exist anywhere, even right here in the US. We are talking about there being laws against violence against Arab Muslims, and prosecuting such crimes, which exists in Israel.

On the other hand no such laws against violence against Jews exist on the Palestinian side (in fact it terror, murder, and violence upon Jews is the leadership's stated goal) and you weren't able to give me an example of it.

Instead you posted something from an Arab propaganda site dedicated to incite hatred against Israel, named Al-Monitor, with these kinds of articles:

Israeli Court Rejects Gaza War Crime Case Mohammed Suliman
Islamic Jihad to Run In Palestinian Elections Abeer Ayyoub
Exclusive: Gaza Salafists Take Fight to Syria Asmaa al-Ghoul
Israel Arresting Children To Prevent Third Intifada

The same information is available on the B'tselem site. Do you dispute it? Or is your only dispute the argument that Hamas is worse (which it is - but that has no bearing on this).

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Some information about the NGO Physicians For Human Rights Israel and what they do in their work for prisoners.

"

PHR-Israel handles appeals from Palestinian prisoners, their families and lawyers, regarding their need for medical attention, as well as instances of medical neglect, harsh living conditions, abuse or torture. PHR-Israel’s volunteer doctors review the prisoners’ medical files and issue opinions, while PHR-Israel staff correspond with the relevant authorities (the Minister of Public Security, the Israel Prison Service (IPS) medical services, the Israeli police, and others) to ensure the fulfillment of prisoners’ health rights. Where necessary, we take individual legal action

Physicians for Human Rights-Israel | Prisoners & Detainees Dept | About

Sherri

 

[Roudy]

True equality does not exist anywhere, even right here in the US. We are talking about there being laws against violence against Arab Muslims, and prosecuting such crimes, which exists in Israel.

On the other hand no such laws against violence against Jews exist on the Palestinian side (in fact it terror, murder, and violence upon Jews is the leadership's stated goal) and you weren't able to give me an example of it.

Instead you posted something from an Arab propaganda site dedicated to incite hatred against Israel, named Al-Monitor, with these kinds of articles:

Israeli Court Rejects Gaza War Crime Case Mohammed Suliman
Islamic Jihad to Run In Palestinian Elections Abeer Ayyoub
Exclusive: Gaza Salafists Take Fight to Syria Asmaa al-Ghoul
Israel Arresting Children To Prevent Third Intifada

The same information is available on the B'tselem site. Do you dispute it? Or is your only dispute the argument that Hamas is worse (which it is - but that has no bearing on this).

Hamas is the leadership of the Palestinians in Gaza, and the way that place works they ARE the govt. and the law of the land.

I point you to the topic of this thread: "Israeli doctors accused of collusion in torture" of which I stated, in Israel there are laws against such acts and they will be prosecuted. I pointed you to examples of such prosecutions. Whether some Israeli liberals think "it's not enough" is irrelevant. Especially the other side, the Palestinians and their leadership are doing the exact opposite.

Currently there is absolutely no law or enforcement of violence against Israelis, on the Palestinian side. Do you not see the ultimate hypocrisy when you hear cheering for violence against Israelis from one side of their mouth, while from the other they complain about "not enough is being done".