Israel versus Palestine

[toomuchtime_]

Crushing Iran is America's issue that must be dealt with. Iran was a stepping stone in the PNAC agenda of destroying Russia. Now Iran has become much more than a step. They are a conventional weapons superpower, and perhaps the world's second most powerful, behind Russia.

We need to confine the discussion to conventional weapons superiority because America created the situation in which nuclear weapons is not an option. In that respect, America isn't a key player until it catches up.

Popular opinion is that America can't in the foreseeable future. And Trump just simply doesn't understand!

And now you emphasize how urgent the destruction of Iran is.

Personally, I disagree with your conclusion that it is urgent to destroy Iran. With its severe and increasing water and electricity shortages and the Iranian government's apparent inability to deal with either beyond telling the people to use less, I think the country may implode before too long.

 

[Donald H]

And now you emphasize how urgent the destruction of Iran is.

Personally, I disagree with your conclusion that it is urgent to destroy Iran. With its severe and increasing water and electricity shortages and the Iranian government's apparent inability to deal with either beyond telling the people to use less, I think the country may implode before too long.

Only as much as any of the PNAC's admitted steps are urgent, before Russia.

Iran is now at the top of the ME pecking order. I would say that's urgent!

If America becomes involved in a war against Iran, are its navy and military bases safe?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Only as much as any of the PNAC's admitted steps are urgent, before Russia.

Iran is now at the top of the ME pecking order. I would say that's urgent!

If America becomes involved in a war against Iran, are its navy and military bases safe?

Considering that Iran has no effective air force and no effective air defense system, is any place in Iran safe?

If anyone believed your fanciful assessments of Iran's capabilities, the destruction of Iran would be imminent.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Iran's proxies didn't abandon Iran. What are you trying to imagine? Iran itself took the driver's seat and came too close to the total destruction of Tel Aviv and then maybe Haifa. That's the reason why the world's media is kept out!

Iran's proxies are all alive, well, and energized by the turn of the ME pecking order to favour Iran.

Iran has many more proxies other than the 3 that are usually named..

The only reason Tehran and the other Iranian cities still exist without being in ruins is that Israel chose not to target civilians. Look at Israel's strikes on Iranian leaders; one small hole in the room they were in killing only the target instead of the building being leveled like the recipients of Iranian strikes. Israel could easily have used unguided munitions killing thousands of Iranian civilians but chose not to.

 

[Donald H]

Considering that Iran has no effective air force and no effective air defense system, is any place in Iran safe?

You're onto something! Iran's power is in deterring the US and the evil Zionist regime by immediately starting the rain of missiles on their enemies. It worked on the Zionists and they were forced to cry uncle to the US for negotiating a cease in hostilities.

If there is a next time, will it work on US assets in the region. America (Trump) might be gambling with a carrier or two?

If anyone believed your fanciful assessments of Iran's capabilities, the destruction of Iran would be imminent.

I welcome all opinions as long as they are rational. Yours are not, without some further explanation. You're just barking at the moon so far.

I advise you to not 'go off' and ruin your opportunity to discuss the situation that's developed.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You're onto something! Iran's power is in deterring the US and the evil Zionist regime by immediately starting the rain of missiles on their enemies. It worked on the Zionists and they were forced to cry uncle to the US for negotiating a cease in hostilities.

If there is a next time, will it work on US assets in the region. America (Trump) might be gambling with a carrier or two?

I welcome all opinions as long as they are rational. Yours are not, without some further explanation. You're just barking at the moon so far.

I advise you to not 'go off' and ruin your opportunity to discuss the situation that's developed.

You are only discussing our fantasies about the war and its aftermath. The ayatollahs can talk as tough as they like, but everyone, even their former proxies, knows that if they don't behave themselves, they will be gone.

 

[Donald H]

You are only discussing our fantasies about the war and its aftermath. The ayatollahs can talk as tough as they like, but everyone, even their former proxies, knows that if they don't behave themselves, they will be gone.

Iran is something like 90+ times larger than the Zionists' postage stamp country. If they start a war on Iran, they face the consequences.
There's nothing America can do to save them, that doesn't place risk on America that makes it not worth it anymore.

Can you think of a plan for the Zionists that can work? If not then there's nothing in it but to wait.

Russia is now the greatest world military power and it's widely suggested that America can't catch up in time to make any difference.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Iran is something like 90+ times larger than the Zionists' postage stamp country. If they start a war on Iran, they face the consequences.
There's nothing America can do to save them, that doesn't place risk on America that makes it not worth it anymore.

Can you think of a plan for the Zionists that can work? If not then there's nothing in it but to wait.

Russia is now the greatest world military power and it's widely suggested that America can't catch up in time to make any difference.

You continue discussing nothing but your bizarre fantasies about the conflict and now about Russia also. about the conflict.

 

[Stryder50]

lol. Not a liberal asshole. Never been one.

You’re so ignorant you think only liberals oppose your genocide.

Only hatred here is you Zionists racists hating everyone.

She knows your mental illness so well.

Caitlin Johnstone (@caitlinjohnstone)

So what's the plan here? We just sit and watch Israel starve Gaza to death with the support of our own governments? And then what? We just go along with our lives, knowing that that happened? That this is what we are as a society? That our civilization is comfortable allowing something like...

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Dumbshit!

What part of "Leftist" & "pseudo-liberal" did you fail to understand ???
If I had a dollar for every lying Leftist like you who claimed they aren't ....

Your posts are no where near objective let alone Right of Center, so you clearly are Leftwing Looney tunes, etc.

You fail to oppose the genocide by Muslims and your fellow neo-Nazis who want to finish the extermination of Jews, so makes you a fascist in my book.

Quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck, looks like a duck, must be a ....

Your mental ill chick is as clueless as you.
BTW, your mental illness is clear for many to see.

 

[gipper]

Dumbshit!

What part of "Leftist" & "pseudo-liberal" did you fail to understand ???
If I had a dollar for every lying Leftist like you who claimed they aren't ....

Your posts are no where near objective let alone Right of Center, so you clearly are Leftwing Looney tunes, etc.

You fail to oppose the genocide by Muslims and your fellow neo-Nazis who want to finish the extermination of Jews, so makes you a fascist in my book.

Quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck, looks like a duck, must be a ....

Your mental ill chick is as clueless as you.
BTW, your mental illness is clear for many to see.

Wow! You’re really out there. Are you considered nuts by others?

Please tell me about this genocide by Muslims? When did it occur? Who was targeted? How many killed?

 

[Stryder50]

Wow! You’re really out there. Are you considered nuts by others?

Please tell me about this genocide by Muslims? When did it occur? Who was targeted? How many killed?

Most recent started Oct. 7, 2023 and continues when ever Islamic Jihadists have an opportunity.
Hundreds of others over the past 1400 years starting with Muhammad and his sword leading his warring minions in conquest and conversion.

Being so ignorant of history will put you really out there, in one of many ways.
Islamic Jihad thanks you for your efforts, Komrade.

 

[gipper]

Most recent started Oct. 7, 2023 and continues when ever Islamic Jihadists have an opportunity.
Hundreds of others over the past 1400 years starting with Muhammad and his sword leading his warring minions in conquest and conversion.

Being so ignorant of history will put you really out there, in one of many ways.
Islamic Jihad thanks you for your efforts, Komrade.

You bemoan the Muslim conquest of over a thousand years ago, while supporting Israel’s conquest today of Palestine and its numerous attacks on its neighbors.

Your hypocrisy and ignorance is enormous. Is it due to your hatred of Muslims?

 

[Roudy]

Not true the only people who are against Jews living in Jew York are you. When all the Jews are finally resettle in the US it will be on you to sort it out with your blacks and Latinos, and Indians, and Jews. YOUR PROBLEM. But ain't it funny that Americans are the most racist people on earth.

Nobody beats Muslims in racism, hatred, intolerance, chauvinism, violence, persecution and animalistic subhuman bevehavior. Just take a quick look around the Middle East and see how Muslims treat non Muslims, women, gays, minorities etc. it’s basically a cesspool of medieval barbarism. Oct. 7 was not an anomaly but what has been occurring for the last 1400 years.

Besides if you think that about the American people, why don’t you just go back to the Islamic shithole you came from?

 

[Roudy]

You bemoan the Muslim conquest of over a thousand years ago, while supporting Israel’s conquest today of Palestine and its numerous attacks on its neighbors.

Your hypocrisy and ignorance is enormous. Is it due to your hatred of Muslims?

Israel’s conquest of Palestine…except there was no Palestine ever, dipshit.

Israel has been the ancestral and religious homeland of the Jews for over 3000 years, it’s even in your Zionist Koran, Achmed.

 

[Roudy]

Muslims only love Muslims. Similar to how Jews and Christians feel.

Yeah, but you don’t see Jews and Christian’s throwing gays off rooftops, treating women like cattle and murdering non Muslims all over the globe, do you.

 

[Roudy]

That's not what I call a win. I need to explain again.

If the Zionist regime strikes Iran from now on, the Zionist regime is guaranteed to get it back in spades.

The Zionists are forced to having to deal with Iran's proxies and those proxies will continue to make the Zionist settlers uncomfortable (or dead) enough to move back to where they crawled from.

That is, until the Zionists just find it not worth it anymore.

(or until the Zionists nuke Iran, and that begins a whole different discussion) Let's not bother for now.

you realize that the term “Zionist regime” is used only by Irans Mullahs, Islamist terrorist animals like Hamas, and brainwashed ignorant morons like you.

Once again, dufus, “Zionists” weren’t forced to do anything. They took care Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran in brilliant fashion. The whole world was surprised by their level of efficiency and performance. Islamist animals will remember the humiliation they received at the hands of Israel for a few generations.

 

[Roudy]

Wow! You’re really out there. Are you considered nuts by others?

Please tell me about this genocide by Muslims? When did it occur? Who was targeted? How many killed?

They killed 100 million Hindus on the Indian peninsula, for the crime of being non Muslim and refusing to convert to it. Last I checked Hinduism came BEFORE Islam, so just like in Israel and everywhere pre else, Muslims are the invaders.

• Some estimates claim figures as high as 100 million or more during the period from 1000 CE to 1500 CE, attributed to Islamic invasions and rule in India. These estimations often include deaths resulting from various factors like warfare, enslavement, forced conversions, and famine.
• During the partition of India in 1947, estimates for the total death toll, including both Hindus and Muslims, range from hundreds of thousands to around 2 million.
• The 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War also saw significant violence, with estimates of 1 to 3 million people killed, a majority of whom were Hindu, according to the International Raoul Wallenberg Foundation.

The Biggest Holocaust in World History

This article is about the worst religious bigotry and persecution ever against Hindus and the large number of Hindus killed in medieval India by Muslim Rulers

www.hinduwebsite.com

According to Prof. K.S. Lal, the author of the Growth of Muslim population in India, the Hindu population decreased by 80 million between 1000 AD, the year Mahmud Ghazni invaded India and 1525 AD, a year before the battle of Panipat.

 

[sealybobo]

Yeah, but you don’t see Jews and Christian’s throwing gays off rooftops, treating women like cattle and murdering non Muslims all over the globe, do you.

OMG, what I saw yesterday tells me Jews are evil as ****. Even Jews are speaking out. And other Jews are attacking them for not going along. Do you see the starving babies? YOu're monsters.

 

[Donald H]

you realize that the term “Zionist regime” is used only by Irans Mullahs, Islamist terrorist animals like Hamas, and brainwashed ignorant morons like you.

Once again, dufus, “Zionists” weren’t forced to do anything. They took care Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran in brilliant fashion. The whole world was surprised by their level of efficiency and performance. Islamist animals will remember the humiliation they received at the hands of Israel for a few generations.

Instead of you hating just Zionists, you're acting like a Nazi who hates all Jews. Or a fascist American who hate all people.

Are you Klan?

 

[Roudy]

OMG, what I saw yesterday tells me Jews are evil as ****. Even Jews are speaking out. And other Jews are attacking them for not going along. Do you see the starving babies? YOu're monsters.

Oh so you fell for the made up images just like you fell for the fake genocide claim. Turns out the baby had a disease it and was used by Hamas as a prop for the consumption of fools like you. The proof? In one of the fake images the baby’s brother was standing right next to his brother and the mother, and looked completely well fed and fine! This who you people are; haters, liars and mentally ill fakers, always consuming Hamas’ bowel movements. Bon apetite!

New York Times stunningly rolls back claims about viral photo of starving Gaza boy

“This additional detail gives readers a greater understanding of his situation.”

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One of Hamas’ affiliates in Africa just butchered over 40 Christians in a church, for the crime of practicing their faith in a church. It was completely inprovoked and an act of barbarity pure savagery, you know, similar to what Palestinian Islamists did on Oct. 7, but on a much smaller scale. Tell us, is there also a “Palestine” in Africa that is causing these subhuman Islamists to go butcher innocent non Muslims like this?

Islamist terrorists kill 49 Christians in African church massacre; eyewitness reveals horrific details​

I’m assuming you IslamoNazi worshippers won’t hitting the streets braying like wild donkeys about all these genocidal attacks by Muslims on non Muslims anytime soon.