Israel should be kicked out of the UN

[Sherlock Holmes]

this is an important point. For people who think it isn't accurate, take a look at the Hamas emblem:

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this isn't about Gaza. This is about Hamas' wish to get rid of Israel completely.

Nothing controversial here, victims of European colonization often seek to banish the colonizers from their land, just look at India, Pakistan, Algeria, The Belgian Congo and so on.

 

[rosends]

Nothing controversial here, victims of European colonization often seek to banish the colonizers from their land, just look at India, Pakistan, Algeria, The Belgian Congo and so on.

You you accept that Hamas' position is the eradication of Israel. Got it.

 

[Kondor3]

Israel should be kicked out of the UN

Right after Russia is kicked out of the UN for doing similar things in Ukraine.

 

[Lisa558]

I could see that discussion after Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, CHina, Vietnam, North Korea, Sudan, Pakistan, Syria, Myanmar, Cuba and some Stans were kicked out. Maybe Egypt and Zimbabwe also.

At various times this list would have included Cambodia, Chile, Argentina, the US, South Korea, most of Central and South African nations.

So why is it that the OP has singled out Israel, or in fact has ever complained about any of the other countries you mentioned? Why does he think Israel is more worthy of rage than North Korea? Iran? Sudan? Myanmar?

Hint: the answer starts with “J.”

 

[Lisa558]

Right after Russia is kicked out of the UN for doing similar things in Ukraine.

Or what about kicking out Ukraine for RESPONDING to Russia’s aggression?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

So why is it that the OP has singled out Israel, or in fact has ever complained about any of the other countries you mentioned? Why does he think Israel is more worthy of rage than North Korea? Iran? Sudan? Myanmar?

Hint: the answer starts with “J.”

Because people are free to discuss any subject and topic that want, that's why.

 

[Lisa558]

Because people are free to discuss any subject and topic that want, that's why.

The question was WHY single out Israel. Saying that people can smear Israel with lies and peopoganda while they ignore the horrific actions by terrible countries - like North Korea, Somalia, Iran, China, Russia, Pakistan, Cuba, etc. - doesn’t explain WHY they are focused solely on Israel.

And we all know why. Those other countries aren’t mostly Jewish.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The question was WHY single out Israel.

Because she has the right to define the scope of debate as she sees fit just as you do.

Saying that people can smear Israel with lies and peopoganda while they ignore the horrific actions by terrible countries - like North Korea, Somalia, Iran, China, Russia, Pakistan, Cuba, etc. - doesn’t explain WHY they are focused solely on Israel.

Nothing stops you from starting such threads if you want, there are many areas here where you could do that.

And we all know why. Those other countries aren’t mostly Jewish.

So can I ask why are you always singling out Jews? It's all you ever talk about so far as I can see.

 

[Lisa558]

Because she has the right to define the scope of debate as she sees fit just as you do.

Nothing stops you from starting such threads if you want, there are many areas here where you could do that.

So can I ask why are you always singling out Jews? It's all you ever talk about so far as I can see.

Still doesn’t explain why she condemns Israel while ignoring the actions of actual bad countries like North Korea and Iran and Cuba and Somalia and Sudan and, and, and.

I speak on many topics, but I do focus a lot on defending Jews from antisemites like yourself. Once Trump takes over from the Party of Antisemites, things will be better.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Still doesn’t explain why she condemns Israel while ignoring the actions of actual bad countries like North Korea and Iran and Cuba and Somalia and Sudan and, and, and.

You don't know what "ignore" means then. Not speaking about something is not to ignore that thing nor is it the same as approving of that thing anymore than disapproving of that thing.

I speak on many topics, but I do focus a lot on defending Jews from antisemites like yourself. Once Trump takes over from the Party of Antisemites, things will be better.

Get better? you mean you'll stop your incessant nagging and complaining?

Go and start a topic "Why do people here only condemn Israel and not other racist apartheid states?" see what happens, if you actually cared you'd do this...

 

[BackAgain]

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A fallacious appeal to authority.

It’s a fallacy because it’s not rooted in fact or logic.

Hamas started this. Hamas could end it. Instead, Hamas hides its fighters and weaponry behind Palestinian civilians. And they do so mostly because it serves to provide them with some protection. But if and when they or their weapons get hit, the consequences to those civilians is of no concern to the Hamas scumbags. In fact, they use it as unpersuasive propaganda.

Still not a genocide.

People, including innocent children and other civilians, do tragically die in wars.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

A fallacious appeal to authority.

That wasn't why I mentioned him, I did it to show that there are knowledgeable Jews who don't toe the line like you do.

It’s a fallacy because it’s not rooted in fact or logic.

That's the very same thing Saddam Hussein said when he was on trial.

Hamas started this.

Hamas didn't exist in 1948.

Hamas could end it. Instead, Hamas hides its fighters and weaponry behind Palestinian civilians.

They could return all the hostages you mean? Yes, they could and what do you think would happen next in Gaza after they did that? can you explain to us all what you think would happen and why?

And they do so mostly because it serves to provide them with some protection. But if and when they or their weapons get hit, the consequences to those civilians is of no concern to the Hamas scumbags. In fact, they use it as unpersuasive propaganda.

Like Israel didn't care when Israeli tanks fired at Jewish homes on Oct 7th killing several civilians just to get one terrorist? are you saying you don't approve this tactic? (go and fact check this)

Still not a genocide.

Yes, I know you're a genocide denier.

People, including innocent children and other civilians, do tragically die in wars.

Yes, that's what people said about Oct 7th too, no argument from me.

 

[BackAgain]

That wasn't why I mentioned him, I did it to show that there are knowledgeable Jews who don't toe the line like you do.

Wrong. You quoted him because he says what you happen to believe and want to believe.

And it absolutely was a fallacious appeal to “authority.”

But he is wrong. Like you are.

 

[Billo_Really]

There was relative peace for quite some time between Israel and Gaza until Hamas decided to try and kill as many innocents as they could in the dead of night. Did you forget that? Gazans were able to come into Israel to work and rub elbows with Israelis. Then Hamas decided to try and kill as many innocents as they could in the dead of night.

That is absolute bullshit!

Israel maintained an illegal and immoral blockade of Gaza fie 16 years. That's what caused Oct 7th. In fact, all the violence in the area is a result of the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land.

 

[Kondor3]

That is absolute bullshit!

Israel maintained an illegal and immoral blockade of Gaza fie 16 years. That's what caused Oct 7th. In fact, all the violence in the area is a result of the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land.

Phukk them, and phukk you for making excuses for them... go back to sniffing Muzzie ar$e... it's what you're best at...

And while we're at it... phukk the goddamned so-called Palesinians... they can go live on the east side of the Jordan...

Play time's over... Israel is makin'-it-real now... good for them... and they have a champion taking office soon in the US...

 

[hadit]

That is absolute bullshit!

Israel maintained an illegal and immoral blockade of Gaza fie 16 years. That's what caused Oct 7th. In fact, all the violence in the area is a result of the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land.

Gaza has a border with Egypt that is closed. Israel did not close it and is not keeping it closed. Why don't you ever whine about the way Egypt is treating the Gazans?

 

[Billo_Really]

Gaza has a border with Egypt that is closed. Israel did not close it and is not keeping it closed. Why don't you ever whine about the way Egypt is treating the Gazans?

What about the sea? Why can't Gazan's fish 12 miles out?

 

[Unkotare]

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Zionists don't deserve a country and they should be banned from the UN.
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YOU don't deserve a platform, and YOU should be banned from this site.

 

[Unkotare]

Kicked out the UN? Israel should be dismantled.

YOU should be dismantled.

 

[hadit]

What about the sea? Why can't Gazan's fish 12 miles out?

And you dodge. Not an attractive look. Basically, you're admitting you're only going to blame Israel for everything that Hamas is doing, and for which are reaping the consequences. Note that there was relative peace between the two until Hamas attacked. Had they not attacked we would still have that situation.