Israel races to head off UN settlement 'blacklist'

[Indeependent]

Indeed, it was the Arabs-Moslems who rejected the plan. That was yet another failure on the part of the Arabs. as admitted by Abbas.

(A) He is a known psychopath and (B) how would any people react if you went up to them and asked them to give you half of their land?

Abbas is a known psychopath...I presume you have that point of Arabphart.
So tell us who is a sane Arab leader?
Perhaps someone from Hamas?

 

[P F Tinmore]

That is why we need a 1948 map of Israel.

This is the map of how it should look based on the mandate:

Indeed, that is a 1947 map of Palestine with proposed borders that never happened because Resolution 181 was never implemented.

Indeed, it was the Arabs-Moslems who rejected the plan. That was yet another failure on the part of the Arabs. as admitted by Abbas.

Abbas faults Arab refusal of 1947 U.N. Palestine plan

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Arabs made a “mistake” by rejecting a 1947 U.N. proposal that would have created a Palestinian state alongside the nascent Israel, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said in an interview aired on Friday.


Your conspiracy theory designed to blame others starts here { } <-------

Abbas does not speak for anybody.

 

[Hollie]

Indeed, it was the Arabs-Moslems who rejected the plan. That was yet another failure on the part of the Arabs. as admitted by Abbas.

(A) He is a known psychopath and (B) how would any people react if you went up to them and asked them to give you half of their land?

(A) that has nothing to do with the Arabs-Moslems rejecting the plan.
(B) The Arab-Moslem squatters were not giving up half their land. The geographic area called "Pal'istan" was formerly controlled by the Turkish invaders / colonists. The Turks relinquished all rights and title to the Mandatory.

 

[Hollie]

That is why we need a 1948 map of Israel.

This is the map of how it should look based on the mandate:

Indeed, that is a 1947 map of Palestine with proposed borders that never happened because Resolution 181 was never implemented.

Indeed, it was the Arabs-Moslems who rejected the plan. That was yet another failure on the part of the Arabs. as admitted by Abbas.

Abbas faults Arab refusal of 1947 U.N. Palestine plan

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Arabs made a “mistake” by rejecting a 1947 U.N. proposal that would have created a Palestinian state alongside the nascent Israel, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said in an interview aired on Friday.


Your conspiracy theory designed to blame others starts here { } <-------

Abbas does not speak for anybody.

Except for the people he speaks for. You have heard of the Islamic Terrorist Syndicate called the "P.A.", right?

 

[abi]

Abbas is a known psychopath...I presume you have that point of Arabphart.
So tell us who is a sane Arab leader?
Perhaps someone from Hamas?

Has there been a sane Israeli leader for that matter?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Abbas is a known psychopath...I presume you have that point of Arabphart.
So tell us who is a sane Arab leader?
Perhaps someone from Hamas?

Has there been a sane Israeli leader for that matter?

For sure. Everybody complains about the Palestinians electing Hamas, but look at the assholes the the Israeli elect.

 

[abi]

(A) that has nothing to do with the Arabs-Moslems rejecting the plan.

Fair enough, but the "because Abbas said so" is still odd.

(B) The Arab-Moslem squatters were not giving up half their land. The geographic area called "Pal'istan" was formerly controlled by the Turkish invaders / colonists. The Turks relinquished all rights and title to the Mandatory.

Again, the mandate was never implemented. So, we are back to the real question. If the zionists were to ask any other people on earth for half of their land "because the UN voted," would any of them go for that?

It really is what all this boils down to.

 

[Indeependent]

Abbas is a known psychopath...I presume you have that point of Arabphart.
So tell us who is a sane Arab leader?
Perhaps someone from Hamas?

Has there been a sane Israeli leader for that matter?

For sure. Everybody complains about the Palestinians electing Hamas, but look at the assholes the the Israeli elect.

Because Israeli leaders always put their children in the line of fire.
Feeling stupid yet, Mr. Resolution?

 

[Hollie]

Abbas is a known psychopath...I presume you have that point of Arabphart.
So tell us who is a sane Arab leader?
Perhaps someone from Hamas?

Has there been a sane Israeli leader for that matter?

Israeli leaders have been sane enough to lead Israel from nascent State to world class economy in mere decades. It requires a dedicated UN welfare fraud to maintain the farce of Arabs-Moslems masquerading as "Pal'istanians".

 

[P F Tinmore]

Abbas is a known psychopath...I presume you have that point of Arabphart.
So tell us who is a sane Arab leader?
Perhaps someone from Hamas?

Has there been a sane Israeli leader for that matter?

For sure. Everybody complains about the Palestinians electing Hamas, but look at the assholes the the Israeli elect.

Because Israeli leaders always put their children in the line of fire.
Feeling stupid yet, Mr. Resolution?

In front of you? Pffft.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Abbas is a known psychopath...I presume you have that point of Arabphart.
So tell us who is a sane Arab leader?
Perhaps someone from Hamas?

Has there been a sane Israeli leader for that matter?

Israeli leaders have been sane enough to lead Israel from nascent State to world class economy in mere decades. It requires a dedicated UN welfare fraud to maintain the farce of Arabs-Moslems masquerading as "Pal'istanians".

Indeed, Israel is the mooch capital of the world. It could not exist without OPM.

 

[Indeependent]

Abbas is a known psychopath...I presume you have that point of Arabphart.
So tell us who is a sane Arab leader?
Perhaps someone from Hamas?

Has there been a sane Israeli leader for that matter?

For sure. Everybody complains about the Palestinians electing Hamas, but look at the assholes the the Israeli elect.

Because Israeli leaders always put their children in the line of fire.
Feeling stupid yet, Mr. Resolution?

In front of you? Pffft.

Feeling stupid yet, Mr. Resolution?
Seriously, how stupid are you that you think a UN memo means anything?
You are an imbecile...but you are entertaining.

 

[Indeependent]

Abbas is a known psychopath...I presume you have that point of Arabphart.
So tell us who is a sane Arab leader?
Perhaps someone from Hamas?

Has there been a sane Israeli leader for that matter?

Israeli leaders have been sane enough to lead Israel from nascent State to world class economy in mere decades. It requires a dedicated UN welfare fraud to maintain the farce of Arabs-Moslems masquerading as "Pal'istanians".

Indeed, Israel is the mooch capital of the world. It could not exist without OPM.

Unlike the Arab and African world.

 

[Hollie]

(A) that has nothing to do with the Arabs-Moslems rejecting the plan.

Fair enough, but the "because Abbas said so" is still odd.

(B) The Arab-Moslem squatters were not giving up half their land. The geographic area called "Pal'istan" was formerly controlled by the Turkish invaders / colonists. The Turks relinquished all rights and title to the Mandatory.

Again, the mandate was never implemented. So, we are back to the real question. If the zionists were to ask any other people on earth for half of their land "because the UN voted," would any of them go for that?

It really is what all this boils down to.

It's not a matter of "because Abbas said so". The fact is: The Arabs-Moslems rejected the UN recommendation that was Resolution 181.

You can spend all the time and energy you wish agonizing about the historical events surrounding the Mandate. Again, the Turks relinquished all rights and title to the Mandatory. There was no requirement for the Arab-Moslem squatters to give up half their land. It was not their land to "give up". You're just making up nonsense claims as you go along. That may calm an emotional requirement to further your insensate Joooooo hatreds but it conflicts with the facts of the historical (as opposed to your "hysterical"), record

 

[P F Tinmore]

(A) that has nothing to do with the Arabs-Moslems rejecting the plan.

Fair enough, but the "because Abbas said so" is still odd.

(B) The Arab-Moslem squatters were not giving up half their land. The geographic area called "Pal'istan" was formerly controlled by the Turkish invaders / colonists. The Turks relinquished all rights and title to the Mandatory.

Again, the mandate was never implemented. So, we are back to the real question. If the zionists were to ask any other people on earth for half of their land "because the UN voted," would any of them go for that?

It really is what all this boils down to.

It's not a matter of "because Abbas said so". The fact is: The Arabs-Moslems rejected the UN recommendation that was Resolution 181.

You can spend all the time and energy you wish agonizing about the historical events surrounding the Mandate. Again, the Turks relinquished all rights and title to the Mandatory. There was no requirement for the Arab-Moslem squatters to give up half their land. It was not their land to "give up". You're just making up nonsense claims as you go along. That may calm an emotional requirement to further your insensate Joooooo hatreds but it conflicts with the facts of the historical (as opposed to your "hysterical"), record

Again, the Turks relinquished all rights and title to the Mandatory.

Not true. The territories were ceded to the respective new states. None of it went to the Mandates.

 

[abi]

It's not a matter of "because Abbas said so". The fact is: The Arabs-Moslems rejected the UN recommendation that was Resolution 181.

Again, the mandate was never implemented. So, we are back to the real question. If the zionists were to ask any other people on earth for half of their land "because the UN voted," would any of them go for that?

Again, the Turks relinquished all rights and title to the Mandatory. There was no requirement for the Arab-Moslem squatters to give up half their land. It was not their land to "give up".

'Squatters' for centuries or am I missing something?

You're just making up nonsense claims as you go along. That may calm an emotional requirement to further your insensate Joooooo hatreds but it conflicts with the facts of the historical (as opposed to your "hysterical"), record

Was this directed at me?

Not true. The territories were ceded to the respective new states. None of it went to the Mandates.

Can you post evidence of this, please.

 

[Hollie]

Abbas is a known psychopath...I presume you have that point of Arabphart.
So tell us who is a sane Arab leader?
Perhaps someone from Hamas?

Has there been a sane Israeli leader for that matter?

Israeli leaders have been sane enough to lead Israel from nascent State to world class economy in mere decades. It requires a dedicated UN welfare fraud to maintain the farce of Arabs-Moslems masquerading as "Pal'istanians".

Indeed, Israel is the mooch capital of the world. It could not exist without OPM.

Indeed, you are incorrect.

Israel Economy Facts & Stats

Care to compare stats with Gaza'istan?

 

[Hollie]

It's not a matter of "because Abbas said so". The fact is: The Arabs-Moslems rejected the UN recommendation that was Resolution 181.

Again, the mandate was never implemented. So, we are back to the real question. If the zionists were to ask any other people on earth for half of their land "because the UN voted," would any of them go for that?

Again, the Turks relinquished all rights and title to the Mandatory. There was no requirement for the Arab-Moslem squatters to give up half their land. It was not their land to "give up".

'Squatters' for centuries or am I missing something?

You're just making up nonsense claims as you go along. That may calm an emotional requirement to further your insensate Joooooo hatreds but it conflicts with the facts of the historical (as opposed to your "hysterical"), record

Was this directed at me?

Not true. The territories were ceded to the respective new states. None of it went to the Mandates.

Can you post evidence of this, please.

I'm not convinced you understand terms and definitions by claiming the Mandate was never implemented. Again, you're hoping to re-write the historical record because events took a path that conflicts with your biases. You seem stuck on some false notion that the Arab-Moslem squatters must have had some requirement to give up half their land. Another unsupported and false claim. Let's remember that the Ottoman Turks relinquished all rights and title to the land area they had conquered earlier. The Mandatory was then the entity which had control of the land.

 

[Kondor3]

The solution is simple.

The Israelis scoop-up all Muslim-Arab West Bank Palestinians and ship them, in proportion, to the countries supporting BDS; clearing the way for full Israeli annexation.

The Israelis can sell tickets, and juice, and little cakes, and...

 

[RoccoR]

RE Israel races to head off UN settlement 'blacklist'
※→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, Shusha, et al,

The Map means nothing unless it is supported by evidence of substance and the reality. The Arab Palestinians must present some kind of evidence to sovereignty — apart from there declaration. —The establishes that someone actually exercises the power of government, not just say they have a right to establish such.. The reality is that there is territory. The Israelis have it, and the Arab Palestinians want to take control; but they cannot.

So....you don't know what territory is Israel, but you are sure that the 'settlements' are not in Israel. Hmmmmm. How does that work?

Because, as we already know, they are flagrant violations of international law.

But how can that be? We don't know where Israel is in keeping with international law and we don't know where Israel is in violation of international law because you don't know where Israel is. If you can't define where Israel is then you can not define where Israel is not. Therefore, you can't say she is violating international law where she is not. Because you don't know where that is.

So, just post a 1948 map of Israel and everything outside those borders is Palestine.

Indeed, another "..... because I say so", commandment.

Indeed, this is where you are expected to cut and paste a couple of snippets from the Treaty of Luasanne to bolster your claim to the "Country of Pal'istan" notwithstanding the fact that the Treaty makes no mention of such an imaginary place.

I knew you would duck that one.

(COMMENT)

For several hundred years prior to the defeat of the Ottoman Empire --- the Arab Palestinian did not exercise sovereign control. At the end of the Mandate, the successor government was passed from the British to the UN Palestine Commission.

The Israelis were able to establish a sovereign state under their full authority; and successfully defend it against the Arab League aggressors.

✪ Where and when did the Arab Palestinians establish sovereign control of any territory?
✪ When and where did the Arab Palestinians establish a government able to stand lone?
✪ Where and when did the Israelis take full control over any Arab Palestinian Sovereignty?​

There was no Arab Palestinian Sovereignty for the Israelis to take away...
There was no stand alone Arab Palestinian government for the for the Israelis to deal with.
There was no stand-alone, autonomous and self-supporting government for the Israelis to replace.

Where and when did the Israelis usurp anything from the Arab Palestinians?

I hear this argument quite frequently claiming that the Arab Palestinian has the right to defend their country. They try to use the Nationality clause in the Treaty of Lausanne. But that only establishes that the Arab Palestinians have the right to Mandate Authority Citizenship. It does not make mention of any territory or political subdivision called "Palestine;" or the distribution of such a territory.

Most Respectfully,
R