Israel races to head off UN settlement 'blacklist'

[Shusha]

The underlying Palestinian mentality is that there is no such thing as Jewish land. (Can be no such thing as Jewish land). Thus a business operating in Tel Aviv is just as illegal a 'settlement' as a a business in the Negev, as a business in Ramallah, as a business in Gaza City.

Now that's what I call Hasbara.

In what way? What land do you think is Jewish land and what land do you think is Arab land?

 

[abi]

In what way? What land do you think is Jewish land and what land do you think is Arab land?

You never stop. What land was Germany's and what land was Europe?

 

[Shusha]

In what way? What land do you think is Jewish land and what land do you think is Arab land?

You never stop. What land was Germany's and what land was Europe?

Ah ha. Now we are talking. Germany had international borders. Land outside her international borders was not hers. So what land marks the international borders of Arab Palestine? What borders are Jewish Palestine?

 

[abi]

What are Israel's borders? Good point.

 

[cnm]

In what way?

In ignoring Israel's actions and the topic of this thread and deflecting to Palestine/Palestinians. Classic Hasbara technique.

 

[cnm]

What are Israel's borders? Good point.

I look forward to the deflection.

 

[Shusha]

In what way?

In ignoring Israel's actions and the topic of this thread and deflecting to Palestine/Palestinians. Classic Hasbara technique.

We can't discuss the topic of this thread without discussing Israel's areas of legal control. Its not about her actions. Its about her actions outside her legal area of control. Just what do you think that is?

 

[Shusha]

What are Israel's borders? Good point.

I have a good, clear, strong answer to that. I have solid reasons for my answer. But since YOU have made the claim that Israel is acting outside her borders - the onus is on you to define what those are.

Tel Aviv, for example. Inside or outside Israel's legal claim?

 

[Shusha]

What are Israel's borders? Good point.

I look forward to the deflection.

There is no deflection. The topic of this thread is a blacklist against businesses operating outside Israel's legal area of control. We can not possibly define the subject if we don't define Israel's legal area of control.

 

[abi]

I have a good, clear, strong answer to that. I have solid reasons for my answer. But since YOU have made the claim that Israel is acting outside her borders - the onus is on you to define what those are.

Tel Aviv, for example. Inside or outside Israel's legal claim?

This is not an answer. I am not sure what Israel's borders are. I am guessing that you don't know her legal status in this respect either.

 

[Shusha]

I have a good, clear, strong answer to that. I have solid reasons for my answer. But since YOU have made the claim that Israel is acting outside her borders - the onus is on you to define what those are.

Tel Aviv, for example. Inside or outside Israel's legal claim?

This is not an answer. I am not sure what Israel's borders are. I am guessing that you don't know her legal status in this respect either.

If you don't know what Israel's borders are HOW CAN YOU CLAIM THAT SHE IS OPERATING OUTSIDE HER BORDERS?!

How can you know what companies to boycott?!

 

[abi]

I have a good, clear, strong answer to that. I have solid reasons for my answer. But since YOU have made the claim that Israel is acting outside her borders - the onus is on you to define what those are.

Tel Aviv, for example. Inside or outside Israel's legal claim?

This is not an answer. I am not sure what Israel's borders are. I am guessing that you don't know her legal status in this respect either.

If you don't know what Israel's borders are HOW CAN YOU CLAIM THAT SHE IS OPERATING OUTSIDE HER BORDERS?!

How can you know what companies to boycott?!

The settlements are not in Israel. Everyone knows that. Is that what you are stuck on?

 

[Shusha]

I have a good, clear, strong answer to that. I have solid reasons for my answer. But since YOU have made the claim that Israel is acting outside her borders - the onus is on you to define what those are.

Tel Aviv, for example. Inside or outside Israel's legal claim?

This is not an answer. I am not sure what Israel's borders are. I am guessing that you don't know her legal status in this respect either.

If you don't know what Israel's borders are HOW CAN YOU CLAIM THAT SHE IS OPERATING OUTSIDE HER BORDERS?!

How can you know what companies to boycott?!

The settlements are not in Israel. Everyone knows that. Is that what you are stuck on?

So....you don't know what territory is Israel, but you are sure that the 'settlements' are not in Israel. Hmmmmm. How does that work?

Either you know where Israel begins and ends or you don't. Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

 

[abi]

So....you don't know what territory is Israel, but you are sure that the 'settlements' are not in Israel. Hmmmmm. How does that work?

Because, as we already know, they are flagrant violations of international law.

 

[Shusha]

So....you don't know what territory is Israel, but you are sure that the 'settlements' are not in Israel. Hmmmmm. How does that work?

Because, as we already know, they are flagrant violations of international law.

But how can that be? We don't know where Israel is in keeping with international law and we don't know where Israel is in violation of international law because you don't know where Israel is. If you can't define where Israel is then you can not define where Israel is not. Therefore, you can't say she is violating international law where she is not. Because you don't know where that is.

 

[abi]

So....you don't know what territory is Israel, but you are sure that the 'settlements' are not in Israel. Hmmmmm. How does that work?

Because, as we already know, they are flagrant violations of international law.

But how can that be? We don't know where Israel is in keeping with international law and we don't know where Israel is in violation of international law because you don't know where Israel is. If you can't define where Israel is then you can not define where Israel is not. Therefore, you can't say she is violating international law where she is not. Because you don't know where that is.

It's not me. It's the UN and the international community.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israel races to head off UN settlement 'blacklist'
※→ abi, et al,

Talk away --- on any subject...

I get it, you don't want top discuss THIS topic so you spam with what we see on every thread. But do the math; you are comparing apples to space ships.

(COMMENT)

I did not imply (at least I don't think I did) that any subject was off limits.

You brought-up the elements of "Bias," and "Violations of Law", and "Morality." I gave a short list set of examples -- very wide spectrum -- over a 45 year period, where the Arab Palestinians "violated international law," and where the morality of Arab Palestinian thinking is morally questionable.

Right here, in this very discussion group, pro-Palestinian Boosters argued that the Hostile Arab Palestinian has the right to carryout such activity in the name of freedom fighters.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Shusha]

So....you don't know what territory is Israel, but you are sure that the 'settlements' are not in Israel. Hmmmmm. How does that work?

Because, as we already know, they are flagrant violations of international law.

But how can that be? We don't know where Israel is in keeping with international law and we don't know where Israel is in violation of international law because you don't know where Israel is. If you can't define where Israel is then you can not define where Israel is not. Therefore, you can't say she is violating international law where she is not. Because you don't know where that is.

It's not me. It's the UN and the international community.

So....you don't know what territory is Israel, but you are sure that the 'settlements' are not in Israel. Hmmmmm. How does that work?

Because, as we already know, they are flagrant violations of international law.

But how can that be? We don't know where Israel is in keeping with international law and we don't know where Israel is in violation of international law because you don't know where Israel is. If you can't define where Israel is then you can not define where Israel is not. Therefore, you can't say she is violating international law where she is not. Because you don't know where that is.

It's not me. It's the UN and the international community.

OMG. It's such a simple question. And the run around is astonishing.

 

[Hollie]

But annexing settlements which will inevitably be part of Isralenin the end??

I am convinced that you suffer from an extreme version of a cognitive bias known as the Dunning-Kruger effect. Have you ever been diagnosed?

"Inevitably be part of Israel" and you want peace?

Speaking of wanting peace:

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

 

[P F Tinmore]

So....you don't know what territory is Israel, but you are sure that the 'settlements' are not in Israel. Hmmmmm. How does that work?

Because, as we already know, they are flagrant violations of international law.

But how can that be? We don't know where Israel is in keeping with international law and we don't know where Israel is in violation of international law because you don't know where Israel is. If you can't define where Israel is then you can not define where Israel is not. Therefore, you can't say she is violating international law where she is not. Because you don't know where that is.

So, just post a 1948 map of Israel and everything outside those borders is Palestine.