Israel MUST stop recieving all USA funds

[JGalt]

But our weapons are so much more efficient at killing terrorist shitheads.

Remember when they killed Rachel Corry? Remember Kurdi Bear with his bulldozer?

Remember when they told her to remove her soon to be dead ass from the path of the vehicle?

But by what right does the illegal immigrant Zionists have to bulldoze indigenous homes built a thousand years ago or more?

By God's right. It's all recorded in that big black book you have hidden somewhere in a closet or a drawer. Dig it out, you might learn something.

Boundaries of the Promised Land described in the Bible

 

[JoeMoma]

Cigars are nasty!

Only when you are on the receiving end! They are GREAT when actually SMOKING one!

if you say so!

 

[shimon]

in the 80s Israel was building its own National Fighter Jet named 'Lavie' plane. Long story short, The US pressed Israel to stop developing it, in its final stages, in return for annual funding Standing on3 Billion USD of which 75% can only be used in buying from the US - killing the terrific Israeli industries.

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Since 2019 Israel started recieving 3.8 Billion USD - 100% of it can only be used in buying from the US.

This Aid makes us uncapble of selling Israeli weapons without the US approval - to show you how bad the aid economically to Israel - in one drone deal with Azerbaijan we sold them 5 Billion USD worth of arms. not speaking about Russia and China - there are dozens of nations the US veto and forcing us not to sell them our drones in fear of competition .

the Aid is buying the US enormous amount of control in our land - which has been used maliciously against us several times - First of all - in the terrible Oslo agreement - forcing Israel to recognize and arm the murderous terror organization of Arafat - which killed thousands of Israeli citizens in bus bombing, drive by shootings and rocket attakcs, stabbing and suicide bombings.

the Second time - Clinton tried so hard to force Israel on giving the Arabs Jerusalem and Judeah and Samaria [ all in order to get a 'nobel peace' prize ] - Practically forming a terror state 5 km of our main airport, Making Israel a 16 KM wide border country.
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[Tel aviv from Judeah and Samaria. Imagine if Israel got thousdands of missiles from this strategic mountains - instead of the desertish strip of Gaza. this would happen under the Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Obama's peace deals. every single one of them wished to force Israel out of this historically Jewish lands ]

The AID completley destroys Israel's independence - and is the worst thing to happen in the alliance between Israel to the USA.

We appreciate the US [ not the modern democratic party.. tho ] and we do not wish to get your money. now listen to this.

The US aid to Israel - 3.8 Bs$ - is less than 0.8% of our GDP.

Unlike what many in the world would think - Israel could give up on the aid TODAY, and it not only would not kill our country - it would strenghten Israel - and the US -Israel relations.

Gaza wasn't Jewish.. It was Philistine..

History & Overview of U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

Not completly it was originally settled by a group of people known as the Avvites you can read about it in Deut 2 :23 .Those people are no longer around then the tribe of Judah conquered it which can be read aboutinJudges 1... Mostly the caanites had control of it till around 3200 years ago when the philistines took control... So yes it was Israelite under the tribe of Judah for a period of time...

 

[José]

Originally posted by Cigars
Yes, historically we were here first. and we own this land. but its not even the issue.

The only places you arrived first than the Palestinians was Kiev, Warsaw, Moscow and Minsk.

Notice the fact that the big, pathetic joke according to which the sorry bunch of europeans of jewish faith who founded the state of Israel had any Middle Eastern Ancestry is so deeply entrenched in the western psych that even people who oppose european supremacism in Palestine are unable to reject this truckload of dung.

 

[José]

Any Norwegian who claimed to be the descendant of a south african Bantu tribe would be wearing a straightjacket in a madhouse in Oslo.

But since the semitic "origin" of Askhenazis is a kind of socially accepted madness people feel free to go around parroting this babble as if it was the most reasonable thing in the world.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

But our weapons are so much more efficient at killing terrorist shitheads.

Remember when they killed Rachel Corry? Remember Kurdi Bear with his bulldozer?

Armored D9 drivers can't see shit. its all protected from AT and Rifles. Why the hell was she running f##ing towards it? play stupid games, die fast

 

[Kilroy2]

Well most is true what you write except it is around 75 percent that is purchased from US manufacturers. The remaining 25% is purchased from Israel manufacturers based on the last agreement signed by Obama.

They still want more money. With the current covid crisis that is messing with the economy, it is mind boggling that the US goes further into debt while paying Foreign countries to buy weapons from US manufacturers. The taxpayer is footing that bill and the weapon manufacturers reap the benefits.

The current situation was create by Israel. Muslim who are Israel citizens who lived on land controlled by Israel were facing evictions based on the Supreme Court of Israel ruling that based on things that happen centuries ago ( Jews lived on the land first) that they could not own the land. In fact they were just tenants and could be evicted. They protested. Israel came down hard on them. The other Muslims saw a reason to fire missiles. Israel who had more weapons retaliated.

Yet imagine being told that because they did not live there first , this is not there home. Israel started this because they could not accept Muslims owning Israel land.

Of course the extreme elements of Muslim saw a reason to get involved. Support fellow Muslims.

Until 2019 Israel was obligated to buy with 75% only in america from certain companies - since 2019 its 100%American.


You don't know much about the issue [ like 99% of the westren world, which foolishly shouts "Savesheikhjarakh"

Yes, historically we were here first. and we own this land. but its not even the issue.

Parts of' Sheikh Jarakh' neighborhood are called the Shim'on HaTzadik neighborhood - and was built by Jews in 1880. in 48' the Arabs took over Jerusalem and ethnically cleansed Jerusalem from Jews. Since 2009 Jewish families which have documents proving their ancestors were owning this land before being ethincally cleansed - have a right to reclaim their family property.

Jewish familes have been returning since 2008. nothing new happens in 2021. Islam and Hamas never needs excuses to try to kill the Jews

Well your argument would be the same argument the Indians can make. We were here first and the land belongs to us.

Well what is new is the Israel supreme court ruling that the Muslim who have settle there can now be considered tenants. Which means they can be evicted. So yeah you can spin it as taking back your land or repeating history but changing places. Even as Israel citizens, they are treated as 2nd class citizens. Should they protested about their homes being taken away.

What if the Ottoman empire made the same claim as it was part of that empire for well over 600 years which predates 1800. Then there was a name change. So I guess Turkey can claim it.

like the Americans say to the Indian. Well it is who is living there now and claim that land or really who is stronger militarily.

Your right they do not need a reason to attack but when given one it like "cleared for landing." You would think that Israel would be more sensitive to that.

 

[TDontTouchMyCigars]

The US aid to Israel - 3.8 Bs$ - is less than 0.8% of our GDP.

I've pointed this out to the screamers who hate Israel but they never acknowledge it. We receive FAR MORE benefit from collaboration with your defense industries than do average Israelis benefit from our industries. A day IS coming when the D party will totally be controlled by the party of anti-Semites like AOC, Omar, and co. It will be interesting to see their reaction when Israel "loses" 3.8 billion but INCREASES its own global arms sales as well as competing with the best defense contractors in the U.S. I just saw that Israel is declaring a unilateral ceasefire BEFORE the Hamas stops launching rockets. That disappoints me but I guess the current government has to be willing to bend to some extent. I'd have much rather seen Netanyahu tell the senile old bastard in the Oval Office, where he could stick his demands...

What has taken over the American left? Totally marxist anti rationality party. unbelievable.

Rational people believe in inherent rights of indigenous people, and Israeli Jews are not indigenous to the Mideast, but mostly to Poland and Russia.
They should not be in the Mideast, and have no rights in the Mideast, since they are illegal invaders.
No one, right or left, should support them.

See how ignorant you people are? ''rational'' LMFAO.

Literally 70% of Israeli Jews are Jews who lived in Arab countries. All Jews are brothers. We are from the Levant. We are native to Judeah, the Arabs are native to Arabia. its that simple

 

[TDontTouchMyCigars]

in the 80s Israel was building its own National Fighter Jet named 'Lavie' plane. Long story short, The US pressed Israel to stop developing it, in its final stages, in return for annual funding Standing on3 Billion USD of which 75% can only be used in buying from the US - killing the terrific Israeli industries.

View attachment 491616

Since 2019 Israel started recieving 3.8 Billion USD - 100% of it can only be used in buying from the US.

This Aid makes us uncapble of selling Israeli weapons without the US approval - to show you how bad the aid economically to Israel - in one drone deal with Azerbaijan we sold them 5 Billion USD worth of arms. not speaking about Russia and China - there are dozens of nations the US veto and forcing us not to sell them our drones in fear of competition .

the Aid is buying the US enormous amount of control in our land - which has been used maliciously against us several times - First of all - in the terrible Oslo agreement - forcing Israel to recognize and arm the murderous terror organization of Arafat - which killed thousands of Israeli citizens in bus bombing, drive by shootings and rocket attakcs, stabbing and suicide bombings.

the Second time - Clinton tried so hard to force Israel on giving the Arabs Jerusalem and Judeah and Samaria [ all in order to get a 'nobel peace' prize ] - Practically forming a terror state 5 km of our main airport, Making Israel a 16 KM wide border country.
View attachment 491618
[Tel aviv from Judeah and Samaria. Imagine if Israel got thousdands of missiles from this strategic mountains - instead of the desertish strip of Gaza. this would happen under the Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Obama's peace deals. every single one of them wished to force Israel out of this historically Jewish lands ]

The AID completley destroys Israel's independence - and is the worst thing to happen in the alliance between Israel to the USA.

We appreciate the US [ not the modern democratic party.. tho ] and we do not wish to get your money. now listen to this.

The US aid to Israel - 3.8 Bs$ - is less than 0.8% of our GDP.

Unlike what many in the world would think - Israel could give up on the aid TODAY, and it not only would not kill our country - it would strenghten Israel - and the US -Israel relations.

Gaza wasn't Jewish.. It was Philistine..

History & Overview of U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

Yet when Israel withdrew and left the territory to be managed by Arab Muslims, they took the concession and ramped up the killing of Jews. Also, the Philistines were a sea-people and have NO RELATIONSHIP whatever with modern Arab-Muslims. Your Palestinians were and are squatters who never owned the land during any prior era.

We literally had the best farming facilities in the world in Gaza before 2005 withdrawl. Guess what they did with it? yes, they made rockets from the pipelines.

Liar.
I watched the video of the Israeli settlers destroying everything when they were forced to leave.
They left not a single thing standing.
They were the ones who took down the greenhouses and all the plumbing.

BS. We left them the best equipment. literally my aunt's family held many farms, which the govrnment forced them to leave in Gaza.

it was the arabs who destroyed everything there, demolished the Jewish homes, burnt the synaguages, and made rockets out of the pipelines

 

[TDontTouchMyCigars]

And for granting the Palestinian request for a Jew free Gaza Israel got rocket missiles for a thank you. Just imagine all the love Israel would get from the Palestinians if Israel ever gives them part of Jerusalem.

Liar, rockets are only fired at Israel when Israel has gone too far and murdered too many people.
Israel does not legally own any of Jerusalem and should totally vacate.

What an absolute moron. First - the Jewish ownership on Jerusalem goes back 3000 years ago.

second, the Jewish homes of Shimon Hatzadik neighborhood have been being returned to the Jews since 2008. No arab was killed recently.

literally the reason for the arabs to shoot the rockets was because they - wanted to kill Jews. as they always do. you morons always think people should have a specific reason for anything, well, the arabs do have a reason. -[ Kill the Jews]

 

[TDontTouchMyCigars]

Well most is true what you write except it is around 75 percent that is purchased from US manufacturers. The remaining 25% is purchased from Israel manufacturers based on the last agreement signed by Obama.

They still want more money. With the current covid crisis that is messing with the economy, it is mind boggling that the US goes further into debt while paying Foreign countries to buy weapons from US manufacturers. The taxpayer is footing that bill and the weapon manufacturers reap the benefits.

The current situation was create by Israel. Muslim who are Israel citizens who lived on land controlled by Israel were facing evictions based on the Supreme Court of Israel ruling that based on things that happen centuries ago ( Jews lived on the land first) that they could not own the land. In fact they were just tenants and could be evicted. They protested. Israel came down hard on them. The other Muslims saw a reason to fire missiles. Israel who had more weapons retaliated.

Yet imagine being told that because they did not live there first , this is not there home. Israel started this because they could not accept Muslims owning Israel land.

Of course the extreme elements of Muslim saw a reason to get involved. Support fellow Muslims.

Until 2019 Israel was obligated to buy with 75% only in america from certain companies - since 2019 its 100%American.


You don't know much about the issue [ like 99% of the westren world, which foolishly shouts "Savesheikhjarakh"

Yes, historically we were here first. and we own this land. but its not even the issue.

Parts of' Sheikh Jarakh' neighborhood are called the Shim'on HaTzadik neighborhood - and was built by Jews in 1880. in 48' the Arabs took over Jerusalem and ethnically cleansed Jerusalem from Jews. Since 2009 Jewish families which have documents proving their ancestors were owning this land before being ethincally cleansed - have a right to reclaim their family property.

Jewish familes have been returning since 2008. nothing new happens in 2021. Islam and Hamas never needs excuses to try to kill the Jews

Well your argument would be the same argument the Indians can make. We were here first and the land belongs to us.

Well what is new is the Israel supreme court ruling that the Muslim who have settle there can now be considered tenants. Which means they can be evicted. So yeah you can spin it as taking back your land or repeating history but changing places. Even as Israel citizens, they are treated as 2nd class citizens. Should they protested about their homes being taken away.

What if the Ottoman empire made the same claim as it was part of that empire for well over 600 years which predates 1800. Then there was a name change. So I guess Turkey can claim it.

like the Americans say to the Indian. Well it is who is living there now and claim that land or really who is stronger militarily.

Your right they do not need a reason to attack but when given one it like "cleared for landing." You would think that Israel would be more sensitive to that.

You don't quite get it. There is a very simple difference between a foriegn empire to a native people.

The persian empire cant claim Judeah because it is not the native historical land of the persians. it is of the Jews

 

[TDontTouchMyCigars]

If it were my decision, Israel would never see another dime of US military aid nor would it be able to purchase US weapons. As for Israel not needing US aid, that is a joke.

Israel did just fine before 1973' with French weapons against the entire Arab world backed by the USSR.

You are the joke.

 

[TDontTouchMyCigars]

Originally posted by Cigars
Yes, historically we were here first. and we own this land. but its not even the issue.

The only places you arrived first than the Palestinians was Kiev, Warsaw, Moscow and Minsk.

Notice the fact that the big, pathetic joke according to which the sorry bunch of europeans of jewish faith who founded the state of Israel had any Middle Eastern Ancestry is so deeply entrenched in the western psych that even people who oppose european supremacism in Palestine are unable to reject this truckload of dung.

"You White european colonialists"

Just the average american lefty. I suggest you actually read about what is the largest group of Jews in Israel [ hint - not the Jews who lived in Europe and returned ]

Plus, its very simple the fact that the Jews are brothers. 13 of 15 biggest Jewish groups in the world share close genetic relations.

Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes

Haplotypes constructed from Y-chromosome markers were used to trace the paternal origins of the Jewish Diaspora. A set of 18 biallelic polymorphisms was genotyped in 1,371 males from 29 populations, including 7 Jewish (Ashkenazi, Roman, North African, Kurdish, Near Eastern, Yemenite, and...

www.pnas.org

[B..but muh white evil colonialists vs brown natives ] - You guys are a joke. no, being native on your land does not mean being poor and powerless. You mad, we are back

 

[Kilroy2]

Well most is true what you write except it is around 75 percent that is purchased from US manufacturers. The remaining 25% is purchased from Israel manufacturers based on the last agreement signed by Obama.

They still want more money. With the current covid crisis that is messing with the economy, it is mind boggling that the US goes further into debt while paying Foreign countries to buy weapons from US manufacturers. The taxpayer is footing that bill and the weapon manufacturers reap the benefits.

The current situation was create by Israel. Muslim who are Israel citizens who lived on land controlled by Israel were facing evictions based on the Supreme Court of Israel ruling that based on things that happen centuries ago ( Jews lived on the land first) that they could not own the land. In fact they were just tenants and could be evicted. They protested. Israel came down hard on them. The other Muslims saw a reason to fire missiles. Israel who had more weapons retaliated.

Yet imagine being told that because they did not live there first , this is not there home. Israel started this because they could not accept Muslims owning Israel land.

Of course the extreme elements of Muslim saw a reason to get involved. Support fellow Muslims.

Until 2019 Israel was obligated to buy with 75% only in america from certain companies - since 2019 its 100%American.


You don't know much about the issue [ like 99% of the westren world, which foolishly shouts "Savesheikhjarakh"

Yes, historically we were here first. and we own this land. but its not even the issue.

Parts of' Sheikh Jarakh' neighborhood are called the Shim'on HaTzadik neighborhood - and was built by Jews in 1880. in 48' the Arabs took over Jerusalem and ethnically cleansed Jerusalem from Jews. Since 2009 Jewish families which have documents proving their ancestors were owning this land before being ethincally cleansed - have a right to reclaim their family property.

Jewish familes have been returning since 2008. nothing new happens in 2021. Islam and Hamas never needs excuses to try to kill the Jews

Well your argument would be the same argument the Indians can make. We were here first and the land belongs to us.

Well what is new is the Israel supreme court ruling that the Muslim who have settle there can now be considered tenants. Which means they can be evicted. So yeah you can spin it as taking back your land or repeating history but changing places. Even as Israel citizens, they are treated as 2nd class citizens. Should they protested about their homes being taken away.

What if the Ottoman empire made the same claim as it was part of that empire for well over 600 years which predates 1800. Then there was a name change. So I guess Turkey can claim it.

like the Americans say to the Indian. Well it is who is living there now and claim that land or really who is stronger militarily.

Your right they do not need a reason to attack but when given one it like "cleared for landing." You would think that Israel would be more sensitive to that.

You don't quite get it. There is a very simple difference between a foriegn empire to a native people.

The persian empire cant claim Judeah because it is not the native historical land of the persians. it is of the Jews

You don't seem to understand how history is twisted by whomever is telling it. Israel points to the time they were there and the Arabs point is a little different. Who is right. Well the victor is right and the loser gets the shaft.

Still you can't place ownership in this day and time based on what happen 6,000 years ago. Your point is only colored by what you been told.

Still the bible says that it was the land of Canaan until the Israelites conquered it. Thus indicating they were not the first.

Its irrelevant. All that important is what is in front of you in this time and place.

 

[surada]

If it were my decision, Israel would never see another dime of US military aid nor would it be able to purchase US weapons. As for Israel not needing US aid, that is a joke.

Israel did just fine before 1973' with French weapons against the entire Arab world backed by the USSR.

You are the joke.

They were losing until the US resupplied them emergently. Golde Meir threatened to bomb the Saudi oilfields if they didn't. That caused the oil embargo.

 

[surada]

Originally posted by Cigars
Yes, historically we were here first. and we own this land. but its not even the issue.

The only places you arrived first than the Palestinians was Kiev, Warsaw, Moscow and Minsk.

Notice the fact that the big, pathetic joke according to which the sorry bunch of europeans of jewish faith who founded the state of Israel had any Middle Eastern Ancestry is so deeply entrenched in the western psych that even people who oppose european supremacism in Palestine are unable to reject this truckload of dung.

"You White european colonialists"

Just the average american lefty. I suggest you actually read about what is the largest group of Jews in Israel [ hint - not the Jews who lived in Europe and returned ]

Plus, its very simple the fact that the Jews are brothers. 13 of 15 biggest Jewish groups in the world share close genetic relations.

Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes

Haplotypes constructed from Y-chromosome markers were used to trace the paternal origins of the Jewish Diaspora. A set of 18 biallelic polymorphisms was genotyped in 1,371 males from 29 populations, including 7 Jewish (Ashkenazi, Roman, North African, Kurdish, Near Eastern, Yemenite, and...

www.pnas.org

[B..but muh white evil colonialists vs brown natives ] - You guys are a joke. no, being native on your land does not mean being poor and powerless. You mad, we are back

Yep.. Jews are brothers to the Arabs.. and 90% of Palestinians are descended from 1st century Jews.

 

[José]

Originally posted by Kiljoy2
Well the victor is right and the loser gets the shaft.

The victory of the english colonists in the US and Canada was complete, unquestionable but it didn't change the historical fact that amerindians were the natives and the anglos the invaders.

Even if Palestinians decided to end any kind of struggle (peaceful or armed) for their right to live in their homeland their defeat wouldn't change the historical facts.

The arabized population of Palestine were the real natives, the real descendants of the biblical peoples and the europeans converted to Judaism in ancient times were the invaders.

Historical facts stubbornly refuse to change due to military victories or defeats.

Propaganda yes... but not historical facts.

 

[José]

It goes without saying that the wet dream of every invader, of every ethnocratic state that has ever existed in human history is to find a way, no matter how absurd, how convoluted, to present themselves as the real natives of the land and the natives as the invaders.

As far as I know, american and canadian colonists were never able to conceive a fable, a fairy tale in which they could portray themselves as the real natives of the american continent but dutch colonists in South Africa did just that, just like european Jews.

This is probably the first time you'll hear this story, but white South Africans used to portray themselves as the real natives of South Africa based on the historical fact that the last waves of Bantu migration to South Africa happened after the first europeans arrived in South Africa.

 

[José]

As I said, portraying themselves as the natives of the land and the natives as the foreigners is the wet dream of every invader and colonizer in the history of mankind.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

As I said, portraying themselves as the natives of the land and the natives as the foreigners is the wet dream of every invader and colonizer in the history of mankind.

Exactly!
The muslim invaders are the natives.........DURR