Israel = Masada. The case for the Jewish state

[Rigby5]

Many have no idea what kind of persecution the Jewish people have suffered over the years. In fact, those that wish to destroy the Jewish state, often deny that the Holocaust even happened, or they say that the Holocaust was not that bad of an event altogether. Why? Because the catalyst for the UN creating Israel was the Holocaust. However, everything that was done to the Jews in Nazi Germany was done centuries prior. The Holocaust did nothing new to the Jewish people, other than create a much more efficient method of persecution and extermination.

Here is a brief, but by no means comprehensive, look at our dark past.

70 AD. The Roman army destroyed Jerusalem and killed over 1 million Jews. Then they took about 100 thousand Jews into slavery and scattered many from Palestine to other locations in the Roman Empire.

So from there, what happened to them in Europe?

200 AD Roman Emperor Severus forbade religious conversations to Judaism.

379 AD Emperor Theodosius the Great permitted the destruction of they synagogues and made Christianity the state religion.

561 AD The bishop of Uzes expelled Jews from his diocese in France

613 AD Jews in Spain were given the options of either leaving Spain or converting to Christianity. Jewish children over 6 years old were taken from their parents and given a Christian education.

722 AD Leo outlawed Judaism as Jews were baptized against their will.

855 AD Jews were exiled from Italy.

1096 AD The first Crusades were launched. Although the prime goal was to liberate the Holy Land from the Muslims, the second target were the Jewish people that still remained there. Along the way to the Holy Land, 12,000 Jews where murdered in the Rhine valley, that is, those who refused to convert to Christianity. This behavior continued for 8 additional Crusades until the end of them in 1272.

1099 AD. Once the Crusaders arrived in the Holy Land, they forced Jews in Jerusalem into a central synagogue and set in on fire.

1121 AD. Jews were exiled from Flanders which is present day Belgium.

1146 AD The Second Crusades began as French monk Rudolf called for the destruction of the Jews.

1180 The French King of France, Phillip Augustus, seized all Jewish property and expelled them from the country.

1215 The Fourth Lateran Council approved cannon laws requiring that Jews should have to wear a special dress and a badge in the form of a ring so they could be easily targeted for persecution.

1290 AD. Jews were expelled from England, which was about 16,000.

1298 AD Jews were persecuted in Austria, Bavaria, and France as 140 Jewish communities were destroyed killing over 100,000 in a 6 month period.

1321 AD In Guienne France, Jews were accused of various crimes as 5000 Jews were burned at the stake.

1347 AD The Black Death gripped Europe, but because the Jews practiced the Mosaic cleanliness laws, they did not suffer like the rest of the population. Rumors then circulated that the Jews must have made a deal with the Devil to bypass the plague as Jews were killed by the thousands, or perhaps more, all over Europe.

1434 AD Jews all over Europe were required to wear special dress so they could be easily identified for general persecution.

1497 AD. Jews were banished from Portugal

1540 AD Jews were expelled from Naples.

1550 Jews were expelled from Genoa and Venice.

1555 AD Jews were forced to live in ghettoes after a Roman Catholic Papal bull, "Cum nimis absurdum". It also required them to wear special dress and were forbidden to own property.

1582 AD Jews were expelled from Holland.

1648 Chmielnicki Bogdan began an uprising in Poland and the Ukraine to exterminate all Jews in their respective countries. It is estimated that over 100,000 Jews were murdered and about 300 communities destroyed.

1806 A French Jesuit Priest Abbe Barruel wrote a treatise blaming the Jews for the French Revolution that triggered increased persecution of Jews all across Europe. This was the first international Jewish conspiracy theory created with many more to come.

1846 AD Pope Pius lX created another Jewish ghetto in Rome, the last one till the Nazis created more later on.

1940's Holocaust

9-10 centuries of persecution of the Jews, and now the Arabs want to cast the Zionist nation into the sea?

I'm no Jew, but even I can see that to give up their state for any reason would be to divorce themselves of reason. It would be suicide.

Stupid lies and propaganda.
The Romans did NOT abuse the Jews, but instead created their proxy state, so the Romans could prevent the Parthians from taking over.
The Jewish King Herod was a Roman who claimed to convert.
The Jews were only destroyed AFTER they insanely rebelled against the Romans, actually believing the their own insane propaganda about being the Chosen People in the Promised land.

And it is a lie to claim Moslems want to harm Jews.
If that were true, then no Jews would have emigrated to Palestine in the 1930s like more than a million did.

Anyone who wants any religious state is evil, a threat to modern civilization, and should be imprisoned.
You don't see any Moslem or Christian saying there should be a Moslem or Christian state.
Only Zionist say that, and not even any real Jews would agree with anything to stupid or barbaric.

 

[Rigby5]

Israel most condemned by UN in 2020 – three times other nations

The UNGA adopted 17 resolutions against Israel this year, compared with six for the rest of the world.

www.aljazeera.com

And since the UN created Israel, the UN has written more resolutions against Israel than any other state in the world.

Let that sink in.

Israel has been condemned more than other countries like North Korea, Iran, the Sudan with its genocide against Christians, Syria with its genocide against pretty much everyone with the rest migrating to Europe, etc.

Why is Israel condemned more than nations engaged in open mass genocide?

Because as the Leftist Pope says, building walls will send you to hell apparently.

If it was left up to the UN, the Jews would wind up in ovens once again.

Liar.
There is no country committing mass genocide EXCEPT Israel.
The only thing close is the Moslems being made to leave in Myanmar, but they are not native, so is not nearly as bad.

 

[Rigby5]

Why is Israel condemned more than nations engaged in open mass genocide?

It's been doing it longer?

It's been doing what longer?

Genocide?

If so, provide the numbers and facts.

There are 6 million Jews in Israel/Palestine, and almost all of them illegal immigrants.
None of them ever paid for their homes.
There are 12 million Moslems in Israel/Palestine, but only about 1 million are allowed to vote, and over half of them have had their homes illegally taken from them.

 

[Rigby5]

Many have no idea what kind of persecution the Jewish people have suffered over the years. In fact, those that wish to destroy the Jewish state, often deny that the Holocaust even happened, or they say that the Holocaust was not that bad of an event altogether. Why? Because the catalyst for the UN creating Israel was the Holocaust. However, everything that was done to the Jews in Nazi Germany was done centuries prior. The Holocaust did nothing new to the Jewish people, other than create a much more efficient method of persecution and extermination.

Here is a brief, but by no means comprehensive, look at our dark past.

70 AD. The Roman army destroyed Jerusalem and killed over 1 million Jews. Then they took about 100 thousand Jews into slavery and scattered many from Palestine to other locations in the Roman Empire.

So from there, what happened to them in Europe?

200 AD Roman Emperor Severus forbade religious conversations to Judaism.

379 AD Emperor Theodosius the Great permitted the destruction of they synagogues and made Christianity the state religion.

561 AD The bishop of Uzes expelled Jews from his diocese in France

613 AD Jews in Spain were given the options of either leaving Spain or converting to Christianity. Jewish children over 6 years old were taken from their parents and given a Christian education.

722 AD Leo outlawed Judaism as Jews were baptized against their will.

855 AD Jews were exiled from Italy.

1096 AD The first Crusades were launched. Although the prime goal was to liberate the Holy Land from the Muslims, the second target were the Jewish people that still remained there. Along the way to the Holy Land, 12,000 Jews where murdered in the Rhine valley, that is, those who refused to convert to Christianity. This behavior continued for 8 additional Crusades until the end of them in 1272.

1099 AD. Once the Crusaders arrived in the Holy Land, they forced Jews in Jerusalem into a central synagogue and set in on fire.

1121 AD. Jews were exiled from Flanders which is present day Belgium.

1146 AD The Second Crusades began as French monk Rudolf called for the destruction of the Jews.

1180 The French King of France, Phillip Augustus, seized all Jewish property and expelled them from the country.

1215 The Fourth Lateran Council approved cannon laws requiring that Jews should have to wear a special dress and a badge in the form of a ring so they could be easily targeted for persecution.

1290 AD. Jews were expelled from England, which was about 16,000.

1298 AD Jews were persecuted in Austria, Bavaria, and France as 140 Jewish communities were destroyed killing over 100,000 in a 6 month period.

1321 AD In Guienne France, Jews were accused of various crimes as 5000 Jews were burned at the stake.

1347 AD The Black Death gripped Europe, but because the Jews practiced the Mosaic cleanliness laws, they did not suffer like the rest of the population. Rumors then circulated that the Jews must have made a deal with the Devil to bypass the plague as Jews were killed by the thousands, or perhaps more, all over Europe.

1434 AD Jews all over Europe were required to wear special dress so they could be easily identified for general persecution.

1497 AD. Jews were banished from Portugal

1540 AD Jews were expelled from Naples.

1550 Jews were expelled from Genoa and Venice.

1555 AD Jews were forced to live in ghettoes after a Roman Catholic Papal bull, "Cum nimis absurdum". It also required them to wear special dress and were forbidden to own property.

1582 AD Jews were expelled from Holland.

1648 Chmielnicki Bogdan began an uprising in Poland and the Ukraine to exterminate all Jews in their respective countries. It is estimated that over 100,000 Jews were murdered and about 300 communities destroyed.

1806 A French Jesuit Priest Abbe Barruel wrote a treatise blaming the Jews for the French Revolution that triggered increased persecution of Jews all across Europe. This was the first international Jewish conspiracy theory created with many more to come.

1846 AD Pope Pius lX created another Jewish ghetto in Rome, the last one till the Nazis created more later on.

1940's Holocaust

9-10 centuries of persecution of the Jews, and now the Arabs want to cast the Zionist nation into the sea?

I'm no Jew, but even I can see that to give up their state for any reason would be to divorce themselves of reason. It would be suicide.

The Jews created havoc of their own, and they had a civil war going on when Rome evaded them.

Yes, that must be it, the Jews create havoc and fought amongst themselves. I'm just glad the rest of the world is so much better than they.

Oh well, into the sea they go!

Wrong.
The Jews in 60AD rebelled against their Roman masters, who had set them up to rule over Palestine, that they could not have ruled over themselves otherwise
The Romans picked the weakest minority, under the assumption they would make the best puppets.
It was insane arrogance to then rebel.

And by the way, not one wants to murder Jews.
Even Hitler preferred just exile from Germany.
It was only the war that made Hitler realize the Jews would work against Germany if exiled, as they did in WWI.

 

[Rigby5]

The Jews... waged war on the inhabitants throughout Libya in the most savage fashion, and to such an extent was the country wasted that, its cultivators having been slain, its land would have remained utterly depopulated, had not the Emperor Hadrian gathered settlers from other places and sent them thither, for the inhabitants had been wiped out.[8]

Kitos War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So the Jews were worse than the Romans?

LOL.

The Jews simply tried to fight off a fascist tyrannical state that engulfed most of the known world.

So the Jews were worse?

Tell that to the people of Masada who climbed a mountain and only wanted to be left alone.

What did the Romans do? They built a ramp to send an army up the mountain to detain them that took years to construct.

Wrong.
Masada was actually a palace.
That was where the treasury was hidden.
{...
The Northern Palace is one of Herod’s more lavish palace-fortresses and was built on the hilltop in the style of classical Roman imperial architecture on the north side of Masada, continuing down the cliff’s edge over two additional levels. One of the notable architectural marvels at Masada are the great cisterns cut into the base of the mountain, built to provide water during times of siege and to supply the bathhouses and pools in an area where virtually no sustainable drinking water is available.
...}
They Jews only ruled because the Romans set them up.
The Jews has been defeated previously by the Assyrians and Babylonians at different times, and could not invade or conquer anyone any more.

 

[Rigby5]

Many have no idea what kind of persecution the Jewish people have suffered over the years. In fact, those that wish to destroy the Jewish state, often deny that the Holocaust even happened, or they say that the Holocaust was not that bad of an event altogether. Why? Because the catalyst for the UN creating Israel was the Holocaust. However, everything that was done to the Jews in Nazi Germany was done centuries prior. The Holocaust did nothing new to the Jewish people, other than create a much more efficient method of persecution and extermination.

Here is a brief, but by no means comprehensive, look at our dark past.

70 AD. The Roman army destroyed Jerusalem and killed over 1 million Jews. Then they took about 100 thousand Jews into slavery and scattered many from Palestine to other locations in the Roman Empire.

So from there, what happened to them in Europe?

200 AD Roman Emperor Severus forbade religious conversations to Judaism.

379 AD Emperor Theodosius the Great permitted the destruction of they synagogues and made Christianity the state religion.

561 AD The bishop of Uzes expelled Jews from his diocese in France

613 AD Jews in Spain were given the options of either leaving Spain or converting to Christianity. Jewish children over 6 years old were taken from their parents and given a Christian education.

722 AD Leo outlawed Judaism as Jews were baptized against their will.

855 AD Jews were exiled from Italy.

1096 AD The first Crusades were launched. Although the prime goal was to liberate the Holy Land from the Muslims, the second target were the Jewish people that still remained there. Along the way to the Holy Land, 12,000 Jews where murdered in the Rhine valley, that is, those who refused to convert to Christianity. This behavior continued for 8 additional Crusades until the end of them in 1272.

1099 AD. Once the Crusaders arrived in the Holy Land, they forced Jews in Jerusalem into a central synagogue and set in on fire.

1121 AD. Jews were exiled from Flanders which is present day Belgium.

1146 AD The Second Crusades began as French monk Rudolf called for the destruction of the Jews.

1180 The French King of France, Phillip Augustus, seized all Jewish property and expelled them from the country.

1215 The Fourth Lateran Council approved cannon laws requiring that Jews should have to wear a special dress and a badge in the form of a ring so they could be easily targeted for persecution.

1290 AD. Jews were expelled from England, which was about 16,000.

1298 AD Jews were persecuted in Austria, Bavaria, and France as 140 Jewish communities were destroyed killing over 100,000 in a 6 month period.

1321 AD In Guienne France, Jews were accused of various crimes as 5000 Jews were burned at the stake.

1347 AD The Black Death gripped Europe, but because the Jews practiced the Mosaic cleanliness laws, they did not suffer like the rest of the population. Rumors then circulated that the Jews must have made a deal with the Devil to bypass the plague as Jews were killed by the thousands, or perhaps more, all over Europe.

1434 AD Jews all over Europe were required to wear special dress so they could be easily identified for general persecution.

1497 AD. Jews were banished from Portugal

1540 AD Jews were expelled from Naples.

1550 Jews were expelled from Genoa and Venice.

1555 AD Jews were forced to live in ghettoes after a Roman Catholic Papal bull, "Cum nimis absurdum". It also required them to wear special dress and were forbidden to own property.

1582 AD Jews were expelled from Holland.

1648 Chmielnicki Bogdan began an uprising in Poland and the Ukraine to exterminate all Jews in their respective countries. It is estimated that over 100,000 Jews were murdered and about 300 communities destroyed.

1806 A French Jesuit Priest Abbe Barruel wrote a treatise blaming the Jews for the French Revolution that triggered increased persecution of Jews all across Europe. This was the first international Jewish conspiracy theory created with many more to come.

1846 AD Pope Pius lX created another Jewish ghetto in Rome, the last one till the Nazis created more later on.

1940's Holocaust

9-10 centuries of persecution of the Jews, and now the Arabs want to cast the Zionist nation into the sea?

I'm no Jew, but even I can see that to give up their state for any reason would be to divorce themselves of reason. It would be suicide.

Like many other people, I support Israel 100%.

Israel is a tiny slice of land.

The Jewish people have turned it into a powerhouse of innovation that has benefited all of humanity.

No doubt the Arabs are lovely people (their hospitality to guests is legendary), but their countries need a lot of help to develop economically & politically.

Israel is ready and eager to help its Arab neighbors.

Israel is literally an oasis in the desert.

Wrong.
The Zionist are illegal immigrant invaders, murdering to steal Arab homes.
Israel only succeeds from US donations.
We should be giving the money to the actual natives instead.

 

[Rigby5]

The Jews... waged war on the inhabitants throughout Libya in the most savage fashion, and to such an extent was the country wasted that, its cultivators having been slain, its land would have remained utterly depopulated, had not the Emperor Hadrian gathered settlers from other places and sent them thither, for the inhabitants had been wiped out.[8]

Kitos War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So the Jews were worse than the Romans?

LOL.

The Jews simply tried to fight off a fascist tyrannical state that engulfed most of the known world.

So the Jews were worse?

Tell that to the people of Masada who climbed a mountain and only wanted to be left alone.

What did the Romans do? They built a ramp to send an army up the mountain to detain them that took years to construct.

but, being pursued by troops from Jerusalem, he threw himself into the fortress of Masada (Josephus, "B. J." ii. 22, § 2; iv. 9, § 3). He kept up his guerrilla warfare, however, gradually increasing his troops until they numbered many thousand Sicarii; and, after fortifying Nain, he encamped in the valley of Paran. Having conquered the Idumeans and mastered Hebron, he swept up to the very gates of Jerusalem.

BAR GIORA, SIMON - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Complete contents the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia.

www.jewishencyclopedia.com

That is mythology, and not at all a reliable source.

 

[Rigby5]

A giant siege tower with a battering ram was constructed and moved laboriously up the completed ramp. According to Josephus, when Roman troops entered the fortress, they discovered that its defenders had set all the buildings but the food storerooms ablaze and committed mass suicide or killed each other, 960 men, women, and children in total. Josephus wrote of two stirring speeches that the Sicari leader had made to convince his men to kill themselves.[8] Only two women and five children were found alive.[8]

Masada - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Again, that is just mythology, makes no sense, and can't be real.
The Romans would not have bothered and the Jews were not the good guys.
In fact, Masada has been built by the Romans and was always a Roman fort and palace for King Herod, who was a Roman.

 

[Rigby5]

Why is Israel condemned more than nations engaged in open mass genocide?

It's been doing it longer?

Check the number of Arabs in the land of Israel, and you will only see it trippled itself under 70 years of Jewish "mass genocide against the Arabs"

Bet you don't even know what Genocide means.

Wrong.
The fact the Zionist have stolen the homes of the native Arabs and forced them into concentration camps instead of killing them, does not make it any less genocide.

The unescapable fact is that in 1920, Jews were less than 5% of the population of Palestine, and did not own any land.
They did not legally buy any land since then either.

 

[Rigby5]

Many have no idea what kind of persecution the Jewish people have suffered over the years. In fact, those that wish to destroy the Jewish state, often deny that the Holocaust even happened, or they say that the Holocaust was not that bad of an event altogether. Why? Because the catalyst for the UN creating Israel was the Holocaust. However, everything that was done to the Jews in Nazi Germany was done centuries prior. The Holocaust did nothing new to the Jewish people, other than create a much more efficient method of persecution and extermination.

Here is a brief, but by no means comprehensive, look at our dark past.

70 AD. The Roman army destroyed Jerusalem and killed over 1 million Jews. Then they took about 100 thousand Jews into slavery and scattered many from Palestine to other locations in the Roman Empire.

So from there, what happened to them in Europe?

200 AD Roman Emperor Severus forbade religious conversations to Judaism.

379 AD Emperor Theodosius the Great permitted the destruction of they synagogues and made Christianity the state religion.

561 AD The bishop of Uzes expelled Jews from his diocese in France

613 AD Jews in Spain were given the options of either leaving Spain or converting to Christianity. Jewish children over 6 years old were taken from their parents and given a Christian education.

722 AD Leo outlawed Judaism as Jews were baptized against their will.

855 AD Jews were exiled from Italy.

1096 AD The first Crusades were launched. Although the prime goal was to liberate the Holy Land from the Muslims, the second target were the Jewish people that still remained there. Along the way to the Holy Land, 12,000 Jews where murdered in the Rhine valley, that is, those who refused to convert to Christianity. This behavior continued for 8 additional Crusades until the end of them in 1272.

1099 AD. Once the Crusaders arrived in the Holy Land, they forced Jews in Jerusalem into a central synagogue and set in on fire.

1121 AD. Jews were exiled from Flanders which is present day Belgium.

1146 AD The Second Crusades began as French monk Rudolf called for the destruction of the Jews.

1180 The French King of France, Phillip Augustus, seized all Jewish property and expelled them from the country.

1215 The Fourth Lateran Council approved cannon laws requiring that Jews should have to wear a special dress and a badge in the form of a ring so they could be easily targeted for persecution.

1290 AD. Jews were expelled from England, which was about 16,000.

1298 AD Jews were persecuted in Austria, Bavaria, and France as 140 Jewish communities were destroyed killing over 100,000 in a 6 month period.

1321 AD In Guienne France, Jews were accused of various crimes as 5000 Jews were burned at the stake.

1347 AD The Black Death gripped Europe, but because the Jews practiced the Mosaic cleanliness laws, they did not suffer like the rest of the population. Rumors then circulated that the Jews must have made a deal with the Devil to bypass the plague as Jews were killed by the thousands, or perhaps more, all over Europe.

1434 AD Jews all over Europe were required to wear special dress so they could be easily identified for general persecution.

1497 AD. Jews were banished from Portugal

1540 AD Jews were expelled from Naples.

1550 Jews were expelled from Genoa and Venice.

1555 AD Jews were forced to live in ghettoes after a Roman Catholic Papal bull, "Cum nimis absurdum". It also required them to wear special dress and were forbidden to own property.

1582 AD Jews were expelled from Holland.

1648 Chmielnicki Bogdan began an uprising in Poland and the Ukraine to exterminate all Jews in their respective countries. It is estimated that over 100,000 Jews were murdered and about 300 communities destroyed.

1806 A French Jesuit Priest Abbe Barruel wrote a treatise blaming the Jews for the French Revolution that triggered increased persecution of Jews all across Europe. This was the first international Jewish conspiracy theory created with many more to come.

1846 AD Pope Pius lX created another Jewish ghetto in Rome, the last one till the Nazis created more later on.

1940's Holocaust

9-10 centuries of persecution of the Jews, and now the Arabs want to cast the Zionist nation into the sea?

I'm no Jew, but even I can see that to give up their state for any reason would be to divorce themselves of reason. It would be suicide.

Prior to WWII there was no strife in the Holy Land like we have seen over the last 75 years. At the end of WWII Jewish leaders put out the word to all the displaced Jews in the world..come to the Holy Land and claim it as your own, for it is written that God has given it to us. As for the people that have lived there for thousands of years..remove them by any means possible. The rest is history.

You left off the most important part.
In 1946, Zionist gangs of terrorist, like Irgun and Stern, massacred the British peace keepers by blowing them up in the King David Hotel bombing.
They also gunned down the UN Moderator, Folke Bernadotte.

With no British or UN to stop them, these Zionist gangs then started massacring Arab villages, like Dier Yassin, and hundreds of others.
Look it up.

Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

{...
The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when around 130[1] fighters from the Far-right wing Zionist paramilitary groups Irgun and Lehi killed at least 107 Palestinian Arabs, including women and children, in Deir Yassin, a village of roughly 600 people near Jerusalem. The assault occurred as Jewish militia sought to relieve the blockade of Jerusalem during the civil war that preceded the end of British rule in Palestine.[4]

The villagers put up stiffer resistance than the Jewish militias had expected and they suffered casualties. The village fell after house-to-house fighting. Some of the Palestinian Arabs were killed in the course of the battle, others while trying to flee or surrender. A number of prisoners were executed, some after being paraded in West Jerusalem.[1][5][6] In addition to the killing and widespread looting, there may have been cases of mutilation and rape.[7] Despite an original boast by the victors that 254 had been killed, modern scholarship puts the death toll at far fewer. Palestinian historian Aref al-Aref counted 117 victims, seven in combat and the rest in their homes.[8] The number of wounded is estimated to between 12 and 50. Five of the attackers were killed and a dozen wounded.[1]
...}

 

[Rigby5]

What a joke? Pig bones?

Produce the pig bones then or shut up.

Rome sieged Masada for a long time. Long enough that they had to build a huge ramp just to get to the walls to attempt to breach them.

Masada deniers are the same as The Holocaust Deniers and just as Evil.

Wrong.
There already is a road, and you don't need a ramp to go through a wall, you just knock a hole in it.
Masada was a myth because it was a fort built and staffed by Romans, not Jews.
Remember Herod was a Roman only pretending to be Jewish.

 

[Penelope]

A giant siege tower with a battering ram was constructed and moved laboriously up the completed ramp. According to Josephus, when Roman troops entered the fortress, they discovered that its defenders had set all the buildings but the food storerooms ablaze and committed mass suicide or killed each other, 960 men, women, and children in total. Josephus wrote of two stirring speeches that the Sicari leader had made to convince his men to kill themselves.[8] Only two women and five children were found alive.[8]

Masada - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Again, that is just mythology, makes no sense, and can't be real.
The Romans would not have bothered and the Jews were not the good guys.
In fact, Masada has been built by the Romans and was always a Roman fort and palace for King Herod, who was a Roman.

Apparently it is true, I checked it out. Josephus is the only one that mentions Masada.

 

[surada]

What a joke? Pig bones?

Produce the pig bones then or shut up.

Rome sieged Masada for a long time. Long enough that they had to build a huge ramp just to get to the walls to attempt to breach them.

Masada deniers are the same as The Holocaust Deniers and just as Evil.

Wrong.
There already is a road, and you don't need a ramp to go through a wall, you just knock a hole in it.
Masada was a myth because it was a fort built and staffed by Romans, not Jews.
Remember Herod was a Roman only pretending to be Jewish.

Herod was a Roman client King and and Edomite.

Herod was born in (or around) 72 BCE in Idumea, south of Judea. He was the second son of Antipater the Idumaean, a high-ranking official under ethnarch Hyrcanus II, and Cypros, a Nabatean Arab.

Herod's father was by descent an Edomite, whose ancestors had converted to Judaism. Herod was raised as a Jew. Strabo, a contemporary, held that the Idumaeans, whom he identified as of Nabataean descent.…

 

[The Original Tree]

What a joke? Pig bones?

Produce the pig bones then or shut up.

Rome sieged Masada for a long time. Long enough that they had to build a huge ramp just to get to the walls to attempt to breach them.

Masada deniers are the same as The Holocaust Deniers and just as Evil.

Wrong.
There already is a road, and you don't need a ramp to go through a wall, you just knock a hole in it.
Masada was a myth because it was a fort built and staffed by Romans, not Jews.
Remember Herod was a Roman only pretending to be Jewish.

We already know you are a liar.

But are you willing to call Josephus a liar? Other Ancient historians also have accounts of Masada.

You are just another liar practicing Taqiyya until the day Hell requires your presence there.

 

[The Original Tree]

What a joke? Pig bones?

Produce the pig bones then or shut up.

Rome sieged Masada for a long time. Long enough that they had to build a huge ramp just to get to the walls to attempt to breach them.

Masada deniers are the same as The Holocaust Deniers and just as Evil.

Wrong.
There already is a road, and you don't need a ramp to go through a wall, you just knock a hole in it.
Masada was a myth because it was a fort built and staffed by Romans, not Jews.
Remember Herod was a Roman only pretending to be Jewish.

Herod was a Roman client King and and Edomite.

Herod was born in (or around) 72 BCE in Idumea, south of Judea. He was the second son of Antipater the Idumaean, a high-ranking official under ethnarch Hyrcanus II, and Cypros, a Nabatean Arab.

Herod's father was by descent an Edomite, whose ancestors had converted to Judaism. Herod was raised as a Jew. Strabo, a contemporary, held that the Idumaeans, whom he identified as of Nabataean descent.…

 

[Penelope]

What a joke? Pig bones?

Produce the pig bones then or shut up.

Rome sieged Masada for a long time. Long enough that they had to build a huge ramp just to get to the walls to attempt to breach them.

Masada deniers are the same as The Holocaust Deniers and just as Evil.

Wrong.
There already is a road, and you don't need a ramp to go through a wall, you just knock a hole in it.
Masada was a myth because it was a fort built and staffed by Romans, not Jews.
Remember Herod was a Roman only pretending to be Jewish.

We already know you are a liar.

But are you willing to call Josephus a liar? Other Ancient historians also have accounts of Masada.

You are just another liar practicing Taqiyya until the day Hell requires your presence there.
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The Holy Land : an Oxford archaeological guide from earliest times to 1700​

by Murphy-O'Connor, J. (Jerome), 1935-

and he copied it from Josephus.

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[The Original Tree]

What a joke? Pig bones?

Produce the pig bones then or shut up.

Rome sieged Masada for a long time. Long enough that they had to build a huge ramp just to get to the walls to attempt to breach them.

Masada deniers are the same as The Holocaust Deniers and just as Evil.

Wrong.
There already is a road, and you don't need a ramp to go through a wall, you just knock a hole in it.
Masada was a myth because it was a fort built and staffed by Romans, not Jews.
Remember Herod was a Roman only pretending to be Jewish.

We already know you are a liar.

But are you willing to call Josephus a liar? Other Ancient historians also have accounts of Masada.

You are just another liar practicing Taqiyya until the day Hell requires your presence there.
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Only the book

The Holy Land : an Oxford archaeological guide from earliest times to 1700​

by Murphy-O'Connor, J. (Jerome), 1935-

and he copied it from Josephus.

 

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Jews are treated that way because sometimes Jews get caught doing stuff like slavery and 911

Einstein did not warn us of Zionist fascism for nothing.

In 15th century Romania, Jews were the "nobles" selling out the commoners to the sultan. That's why they ended up impaled. And that's why they don't like prince vlad Dracula...

Another stupid lie by a Anti Semitic bigot . Jews made/ make up less then 2 percent of the population .Document how they were responsible for World Wide Slavery or Slavery in the US
Ever Hear of Bin Laden? The 19 HiJackers were Arabs, 15 of them from Saudi Arabia you bigoted Ass-Ole

 

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Jews are treated that way because sometimes Jews get caught doing stuff like slavery and 911

Einstein did not warn us of Zionist fascism for nothing.

In 15th century Romania, Jews were the "nobles" selling out the commoners to the sultan. That's why they ended up impaled. And that's why they don't like prince vlad Dracula...

Yes, that must be it, Jews were caught doing stuff like slavery and 911

Brilliant!

Please feel free to offer some facts and logic next time.

Thanks for that.

There won’t be. He’s probably a follower of Farrakhan who DENIES BLACK SLAVERY

 

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What a joke? Pig bones?

Produce the pig bones then or shut up.

Rome sieged Masada for a long time. Long enough that they had to build a huge ramp just to get to the walls to attempt to breach them.

Masada deniers are the same as The Holocaust Deniers and just as Evil.

Wrong.
There already is a road, and you don't need a ramp to go through a wall, you just knock a hole in it.
Masada was a myth because it was a fort built and staffed by Romans, not Jews.
Remember Herod was a Roman only pretending to be Jewish.

We already know you are a liar.

But are you willing to call Josephus a liar? Other Ancient historians also have accounts of Masada.

You are just another liar practicing Taqiyya until the day Hell requires your presence there.
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Yigal Yadin got caught lying about Massada. The only skeletons they found were swine and Roman soldiers. His hoax went so far as to have the Romans interred in Jewish burials.