Israel least peaceful countries.

[P F Tinmore]

Israel doesn't have any borders.

It's like talking to a wall. By treaty, Israel has internationally recognized borders with both Egypt and Jordan.

So Israel says.

And so say Egypt and Jordan. I will grant you that Israel and Syria have disagreements about their border, and even Lebanon claims a small stretch of land called the Shabaa Farms, or something like that.

Nobody has ever been able to explain how Israel claims borders on territory that the UN calls Palestine.

Those so called peace agreements were brokered by the US. Neither the US nor Israel give a rat's ass about international law.

the Israel apologists of course never bother to do research or look at these pesky facts you mentioned.LOL

Indeed, it seems that you are the only one who did not just bounce over this post,

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It's like talking to a wall. By treaty, Israel has internationally recognized borders with both Egypt and Jordan.

So Israel says.

And so say Egypt and Jordan. I will grant you that Israel and Syria have disagreements about their border, and even Lebanon claims a small stretch of land called the Shabaa Farms, or something like that.

Nobody has ever been able to explain how Israel claims borders on territory that the UN calls Palestine.

Those so called peace agreements were brokered by the US. Neither the US nor Israel give a rat's ass about international law.

the Israel apologists of course never bother to do research or look at these pesky facts you mentioned.LOL

Indeed, it seems that you are the only one who did not just bounce over this post,

Tinmore, you keep ignoring this but what is your dog in this fight? Why the F do you care so much?

 

[Likkmee]

isntReal is a lie. Nothing more. It's a political WMD but a"pretend" target rather than the purveyor........altho they have more of both

 

[USAF 2023]

So Israel says.

And so say Egypt and Jordan. I will grant you that Israel and Syria have disagreements about their border, and even Lebanon claims a small stretch of land called the Shabaa Farms, or something like that.

Nobody has ever been able to explain how Israel claims borders on territory that the UN calls Palestine.

Those so called peace agreements were brokered by the US. Neither the US nor Israel give a rat's ass about international law.

the Israel apologists of course never bother to do research or look at these pesky facts you mentioned.LOL

Indeed, it seems that you are the only one who did not just bounce over this post,

Tinmore, you keep ignoring this but what is your dog in this fight? Why the F do you care so much?

He can’t stand the fact that Israel exists. Enjoy it!

 

[Shusha]

Israel has done far more war provoking offenses to Palestine, than Egypt did to Israel.

Egypt, wisely, chose peace and stopped attacking Israel. Even signed a peace treaty. And guess what? There has been peace ever since. Maybe Palestine should give it a whirl. Just a thought.

And Israel no longer occupies any Egyptian territory.

But, according to you, it is impossible for Israel to stop occupying Palestine and still exist. In other words, there can never be peace while Israel exists.

Indeed, Israel has created quite a problem for itself.

When the only solution is the destruction of the State of Israel and rejecting her people's rights to self-determination and sovereignty -- its NOT Israel which is the problem.

 

[Shusha]

So then, what is the "blue line?"

Well, according to actual international law and signed treaties -- it is the Armistice line which follows the recognized international border between the State of Lebanon and the State of Israel.

Article V of the Israel-Lebanon Armistice reads:

1. The Armistice Demarcation Line shall follow the international boundary between the Lebanon and Palestine.

Yeah, yeah. I know it says "Palestine". Palestine was the recognized name of the territory. But who are the PARTIES to the Agreement. Its not the State of Palestine or the Government of Palestine. Its the Government of Israel and the Government of Lebanon. Here's the text:


For and on behalf of the Government of Israel

Signed:

Lieutenant-Colonel Mordechai Makleff
Yehoshua Pelman
Shabtai Rosenne

For and on behalf of the Government of the Lebanon

Signed:

Lieutenant-Colonel Toufic Salem
Commandant J. Harb


The sovereign of the territory formerly known as "Palestine", with respect to the international boundary with Lebanon, is ISRAEL. This isn't hard.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israel least peaceful countries.
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is crazy...

So then, what is the "blue line?"

(COMMENT)

The "Blue Line" is: An adopted demarcation line used as → W A I T F O R IT →

◈ Paragraph 13 of the report states that “the international boundary between Israel and Lebanon"
Letter dated 9 June 2000 from the President of Lebanon addressed to the Secretary-General​

This is the very same answer that we gave in Posting #60.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

So then, what is the "blue line?"

Well, according to actual international law and signed treaties -- it is the Armistice line which follows the recognized international border between the State of Lebanon and the State of Israel.

Article V of the Israel-Lebanon Armistice reads:

1. The Armistice Demarcation Line shall follow the international boundary between the Lebanon and Palestine.

Yeah, yeah. I know it says "Palestine". Palestine was the recognized name of the territory. But who are the PARTIES to the Agreement. Its not the State of Palestine or the Government of Palestine. Its the Government of Israel and the Government of Lebanon. Here's the text:


For and on behalf of the Government of Israel

Signed:

Lieutenant-Colonel Mordechai Makleff
Yehoshua Pelman
Shabtai Rosenne

For and on behalf of the Government of the Lebanon

Signed:

Lieutenant-Colonel Toufic Salem
Commandant J. Harb


The sovereign of the territory formerly known as "Palestine", with respect to the international boundary with Lebanon, is ISRAEL. This isn't hard.

But who are the PARTIES to the Agreement. Its not the State of Palestine or the Government of Palestine.

Palestine was not a party to the armistice agreements because it was not a party to the 1948 war.

Palestine could not lose a war it was not a party to.

Palestine could not lose land in a war it could not lose.

Palestine's borders were the same after the war as before.

 

[member]

Doesn't surprise me, because the terrorist state of Israel is continually attacking and bombing its neighbors.

"Doesn't surprise me..."

 

[Shusha]

Palestine was not a party to the armistice agreements because it was not a party to the 1948 war.

"Palestine" was not a party to the armistice agreements of 1949 because "Palestine" had no government and no capacity to enter into treaties and agreements with other States.

In fact, I don't believe the Government of Palestine (as representatives of the Arab Palestinian people) was a Party to any agreement prior to 1994 unless there is some inter-Arab agreement that has slipped my mind?

Had "Palestine" a government and the capacity to enter into agreements with other States, it would most certainly have HAD to be a Party to any agreement taking place in territory under their sovereignty.

 

[Markle]

Hey, fucking moron take a look: https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/GPI-2019-web003.pdf

There's a ton of lists. Israel is number 1 in militarization domain. That basically means that it's ready for conflict when the need arises. NORWAY is down there in the bottom of that list. When was the last time they were in a war you fucking moron? Fucking hell, SWIZTERLAND [SWITZERLAND] is below Mexico and El Salvador on that list. What are you smoking?

When was the last time Norway was at war? They were an integral part of WW-II.

Why would a tiny Democracy be involved in wars?

 

[Markle]

Actually, in the 67 War AKA the 6 Day War, Israeli jets started it in Operation Focus.

You thrive on being uninformed, don't you?

Israel, Jordan, and the West Bank Palestinians
The long border between Jordan and Israel was tense since the beginning of Fatah's guerrilla operations in January 1965. While Syria was the main supporter of such operations, Israel viewed the state from which the raids were perpetrated as responsible.
[...]
Israel and Syria
In addition to sponsoring attacks against Israel, Syria repeatedly shelled Israeli civilian communities in northeastern Galilee from positions on the Golan Heights, as part of the dispute over control of the Demilitarized Zones (DMZs), small parcels of land claimed by both Israel and Syria.
[...]
The Straits of Tiran
In 1967, Israeli leaders repeatedly threatened to invade Syria and overthrow the Syrian government if Palestinian guerrilla actions across the border did not cease. On May 13, the Soviets informed Egypt officially that Israel was massing troops and was planning on invading Syria. On May 22, Egypt responded by announcing, in addition to the UN withdrawal, that the Straits of Tiran would be closed to "all ships flying Israeli flags or carrying strategic materials", with effect from May 23.
[...]
Egypt and Jordan
On May 30, Jordan signed a mutual defense treaty with Egypt, thereby joining the military alliance already in place between Egypt and Syria. The move surprised both Egyptians and foreign observers, because President Nasser had generally been at odds with Hussein, calling him an "imperialist lackey" just days earlier.
[...]
Six Day War Causes ~ 6 Day War

SobieskiSavedEurope, say you lived in a subdivision and your house was on a nice lake. ALL your neighbors, within a stone's throw, HATE YOU. No particular reason, you just go to, in their opinion, the WRONG...church. At night, they throw stones at your house breaking windows. They poisoned your dog and throw firecrackers at your wife.

It is impossible for you to move, the police do nothing, what would you do?

 

[Markle]

If blocking international waters is a "War provoking offense" then surely Israel's blockades of Palestine are also "War provoking offenses"

None of the violence would be necessary if the terrorist government of Palestine quit shooting rockets into Isreal and sending in suicide bombers.

 

[Markle]

Yes; the 67 War was a sneak attack. Egypt, Syria and Jordan didn’t do a thing. Keep talking to yourself and telling yourself that.

Actually, in the 67 War AKA the 6 Day War, Israeli jets started it in Operation Focus.

The Pollack got it wrong again. Egypt initiated the War by INTENTIONALLY blocking Israel’s right to INTERNATIONAL WATERS. The U. N. “
Peacekeepers “ actually helped Nasser initiate the War by leaving the area with Nasser bragging to the “ International Community “ he was going to destroy Israel once and for all

If blocking international waters is a "War provoking offense" then surely Israel's blockades of Palestine are also "War provoking offenses"

Try to read. The U. N, “ peacekeepers “ deliberately left. Don’t like Israel’s blockade of weapons? Too bad.

Israel has done far more war provoking offenses to Palestine, than Egypt did to Israel.

What?

 

[Markle]

Ahhh, Israel's old terrorist canard again.

Palestine is allowed, like everyone else, to import defensive weapons.

Palestine has a terrorist government. Perhaps there would be a bit more peace between Isreal and Palestine if Palestine quit lobbing those "defensive weapons" into Isreal.

 

[Markle]

Israel and the united states should be ranked dead last and second to dead last as the most peaceful nations on the country.

Israel's existence has caused much turmoil.



the CIA and mossad work hand in hand together in starting wars around thew world.

Who, specifically, would you choose to replace the United States in "policing" the world.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ahhh, Israel's old terrorist canard again.

Palestine is allowed, like everyone else, to import defensive weapons.

Palestine has a terrorist government. Perhaps there would be a bit more peace between Isreal and Palestine if Palestine quit lobbing those "defensive weapons" into Isreal.

Ahh, Israel's old terrorist canard again.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel and the united states should be ranked dead last and second to dead last as the most peaceful nations on the country.

Israel's existence has caused much turmoil.



the CIA and mossad work hand in hand together in starting wars around thew world.

Who, specifically, would you choose to replace the United States in "policing" the world.

Well surely you would not hire the fox to watch the hen house.

 

[Hollie]

Israel and the united states should be ranked dead last and second to dead last as the most peaceful nations on the country.

Israel's existence has caused much turmoil.



the CIA and mossad work hand in hand together in starting wars around thew world.

Who, specifically, would you choose to replace the United States in "policing" the world.

Well surely you would not hire the fox to watch the hen house.

Shirley, you’re not suggesting that your Koran-addled nations should do it.

 

[Markle]

Ahhh, Israel's old terrorist canard again.

Palestine is allowed, like everyone else, to import defensive weapons.

Palestine has a terrorist government. Perhaps there would be a bit more peace between Isreal and Palestine if Palestine quit lobbing those "defensive weapons" into Isreal.

Ahh, Israel's old terrorist canard again.

Canard? Do you deny that Hamas is the elected government of Palestine?

Do you deny that Hamas is recognized as a terrorist organization?