Israel launches airstrikes against Iran.

[TemplarKormac]

The facilities in Fordow and Isfahan were not attacked yet.

LOL.

Time for the bunker busters. And this is one of the reasons why Netanyahu is pining for US participation in the strikes.

We could even break out the thermobaric weapons, such as the BLU-118/B.

 

[JimH52]

I wish you were sufficiently grown up to see there is a grown up in the WH. It is clear that the US did not make a serious effort to stop Israel from attacking, and Iran has already stated that if Israel attacks Iran will have its proxies in Iraq and elsewhere attack US interests and personnel. Israel and the US have the same goal, to get Iran to give up all enrichment activities so that the threat of an Iranian nuclear bomb does not hang over all activities in the ME. I suspect this attack, which is not restricted to nuclear sites, will continue until Iran's ability to attack Israel or US interests is very seriously degraded.

There is a man/child in the WH. He whines, plays the victim, and trampled the Constitution at every opportunity. Tomorrow, on his birthday, when a protestor holding a sign is pummeled and arrested in DC, the Authoritarian in him will come shooting to the top. He has already threatened to stifle free speech during his "North Korean" type military parade.

 

[Oddball]

LOL.

Time for the bunker busters. And this is one of the reasons why Netanyahu is pining for US participation in the strikes.

We could even break out the thermobaric weapons, such as the BLU-118/B.

No

Let the Likuds take care of their own business, and eat any repercussions.

 

[TemplarKormac]

No

Let the Likuds take care of their own business, and eat any repercussions.

I don't see any situation right now where we sit here and let Israel do this on their own. They are too deeply committed. If Fordow and Isfahan are not destroyed, the entire endeavor from Israel will be pointless. We'll be talking about a nuclear-armed Iran in as little as a year.

 

[Oddball]

I don't see any situation right now where we sit here and let Israel do this on their own. They are too deeply committed. If Fordow and Isfahan are not destroyed, the entire endeavor from Israel will be pointless. We'll be talking about a nuclear-armed Iran in as little as a year.

I do....Stay the **** out for a change.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I do....Stay the **** out for a change.

There's fantasy and reality.

I don't want us there either, but we are not in any position to dictate the US military's stance toward this situation.

If the US and Israel were not deeply committed allies, then we would more likely do as you say. But alliances are like marriage, you are either deeply committed until death parts you, or you're only there while it benefits you. ...

I wonder, which one are we? The former or the latter?

 

[TemplarKormac]

We are already shifting assets in the area. I can't see many scenarios where we can completely avoid this conflict.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

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Oh yes. I never thought of that.

Her next stunt.

lol.

 

[Oddball]

There's fantasy and reality.

I don't want us there either, but we are not in any position to dictate the US military's stance toward this situation.

If the US and Israel were not deeply committed allies, then we would more likely do as you say. But alliances are like marriage, you are either deeply committed until death parts you, or you're only there while it benefits you. ...

I wonder, which one are we? The former or the latter?

Here's the reality: Israel has shown that they're good at defending their own patch of dirt all by themselves, and they can do it again.

Our "deeply committed allies" still haven't been held to account for the USS Liberty...**** 'em,.

 

[gipper]

wrong again GIP----Pakistan is shiite----and aint up for the 12 th IMAM at all-----
it is clear that you never interacted with EITHER Iranians or Pakistanis

She knows you genocide loving Zionist MFers so well.

Okay it’s been a few months since the last war Israel started, so now that Iran’s on the chopping block let’s go over the rules once again.

Rule 1: Israel is never the aggressor. If Israel attacks someone it’s either a response to an aggression that happened in the past, or a preemptive attack to thwart an imminent aggression in the future.

Rule 2: History automatically restarts at the date of the last act of aggression against Israel. If someone attacks Israel it was completely unprovoked, because nothing happened before the attack on Israel.

Rule 3: Anything bad that Israel does is justified by Rule 2. This is true even if it does things that would be considered completely unjustifiable if it were done by a nation like Russia or China.

Rule 4: Israel has a right to defend itself, but nobody else does.

Rule 5: Israel never bombs civilians, it bombs Bad Guys. If shocking numbers of civilians die it’s because they were actually Bad Guys, or because Bad Guys killed them, or because a Bad Guy stood too close to them. If none of those reasons apply then it’s for some other mysterious reason we are still waiting for the IDF to investigate.

Rule 6: Criticizing anything Israel does means you hate Jewish people. There is no other possible reason for anyone to oppose acts of mass military slaughter besides a seething, obsessive hatred for a small Abrahamic faith.

Rule 7: Nothing Israel does is ever as bad as the hateful criticisms described in Rule 6. Criticisms of Israel’s actions are always worse than Israel’s actions themselves, because those critics hate Jews and wish to commit another Holocaust. Preventing this must consume 100 percent of our political energy and attention.

Rule 8: Israelis are only ever the victims and never the victimizers. If Israelis kill Iranians, it’s because the Iranians hate Jews. If Iranians kill Israelis, it’s because the Iranians hate Jews. Israel is an innocent little lamb that just wants to mind its own business in peace.

Rule 9: The fact that Israel is literally always in a state of war with its neighbors and with displaced indigenous populations must be interpreted as proof that Rule 8 is true instead of proof that Rule 8 is ridiculous nonsense.

Rule 10: The lives of people in Muslim nations are much, much less important to us than western lives or Israeli lives. Nobody is allowed to think too hard about why this might be.

Caitlin Johnstone

 

[georgephillip]

The Jewish Nakba was a response to the expulsion of approximately 700,000 Palestinians from their homes, businesses, and farms during the creation of Israel in 1948.

The Arab response to the Nakba did not involve significant upheaval for Jewish communities in Arab countries. Many Jews were expelled or fled due to rising tensions leading to a large migration to Israel, the source of terror in the Middle East.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Here's the reality: Israel has shown that they're good at defending their own patch of dirt all by themselves, and they can do it again

They are, to a point. They lack some tools we possess.

We have developed bunker busters, thermobaric weapons, and other military technology.

If you truly want this to stop, we need to encourage Israel to develop its own, original military technology. But as far as the immediate situation is concerned, that's impossible.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Rule 1: Israel is never the aggressor.

Rule 1: Israel is always the aggressor.

You know, you could have just stopped there; we all know what you mean.

 

[Oddball]

They are, to a point. They lack some tools we possess.

We have developed bunker busters, thermobaric weapons, and other military technology.

If you truly want this to stop, we need to encourage Israel to develop its own, original military technology. But as far as the immediate situation is concerned, that's impossible.

They developed the bomb on their own, they can develop those weapons too.

 

[TemplarKormac]

They developed the bomb on their own, they can develop those weapons too.

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Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but the current geopolitical climate makes it impossible for us to stay out of every war.

 

[irosie91]

She knows you genocide loving Zionist MFers so well.

Okay it’s been a few months since the last war Israel started, so now that Iran’s on the chopping block let’s go over the rules once again.

Rule 1: Israel is never the aggressor. If Israel attacks someone it’s either a response to an aggression that happened in the past, or a preemptive attack to thwart an imminent aggression in the future.

Rule 2: History automatically restarts at the date of the last act of aggression against Israel. If someone attacks Israel it was completely unprovoked, because nothing happened before the attack on Israel.

Rule 3: Anything bad that Israel does is justified by Rule 2. This is true even if it does things that would be considered completely unjustifiable if it were done by a nation like Russia or China.

Rule 4: Israel has a right to defend itself, but nobody else does.

Rule 5: Israel never bombs civilians, it bombs Bad Guys. If shocking numbers of civilians die it’s because they were actually Bad Guys, or because Bad Guys killed them, or because a Bad Guy stood too close to them. If none of those reasons apply then it’s for some other mysterious reason we are still waiting for the IDF to investigate.

Rule 6: Criticizing anything Israel does means you hate Jewish people. There is no other possible reason for anyone to oppose acts of mass military slaughter besides a seething, obsessive hatred for a small Abrahamic faith.

Rule 7: Nothing Israel does is ever as bad as the hateful criticisms described in Rule 6. Criticisms of Israel’s actions are always worse than Israel’s actions themselves, because those critics hate Jews and wish to commit another Holocaust. Preventing this must consume 100 percent of our political energy and attention.

Rule 8: Israelis are only ever the victims and never the victimizers. If Israelis kill Iranians, it’s because the Iranians hate Jews. If Iranians kill Israelis, it’s because the Iranians hate Jews. Israel is an innocent little lamb that just wants to mind its own business in peace.

Rule 9: The fact that Israel is literally always in a state of war with its neighbors and with displaced indigenous populations must be interpreted as proof that Rule 8 is true instead of proof that Rule 8 is ridiculous nonsense.

Rule 10: The lives of people in Muslim nations are much, much less important to us than western lives or Israeli lives. Nobody is allowed to think too hard about why this might be.

Caitlin Johnstone

correction----I correctly stated PAKISTAN IS SUNNI (not shiite) gip is nuts

 

[Frankenstein]

So you agree w/me that not one, single, solitary, US boot ought to aid these warmongering MFers in this endeavor, right? Right!?!??

No we should not help the houthis the iranians or the palestinians

 

[gipper]

No we should not help the houthis the iranians or the palestinians

*****! Answer the question.

 

[Frankenstein]

*****! Answer the question.

I did clown!

 

[gipper]

Rule 1: Israel is always the aggressor.

You know, you could have just stopped there; we all know what you mean.

lol. This from a genocide loving Nazi ****.

If only you didn’t always believe state run media and a criminal government.