RE: Israel has 80-90 nukes, where is Trump?
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Some of these accusations are cut with such broad strokes, that don't actually make a claim to answer.
◈ WHAT is NOT an American position?
◈ WHAT is NOT a moral one? Who's moral values? What standard?
◈ WHAT is NOT a logical one?
◈ WHAT is NOT an honest one?
Let's pick one and discuss it. But let's be fresh and specific. What say you about what specific issue?
I'm not really a Democrat, or Republican.
But, rather I research my values, rather than just fitting into political cliques.
I can't think of much if any favorable part of having Israel as an US Ally.
It's not an American position, not a moral one, not a logical one, not an honest one.
Basically Zionists aren't doing the right thing.
It is the right decision on many levels. Perhaps not in realpolitic, but that is a theory that has never been very popular here.
What's right on so many levels about the creation of Israel?
That it's creation caused over 100,000 killed people since it's start?
compare that to the amount of people who died at the hands of Muslims in the name of their Religion.
At least 12.5M Muslims died in wars in past 25 years, expert says
Sure, a lot of Muslims have died at the hands of other Muslims in the past 25 years.
But, also a lot of this is the responsibility of the Neocon Zionist USA who caused much further wars in the Mid-East.
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I'm not sure what a "Neocon Zionist is in America..." What position do they hold on what issues?
Israel is well above the remainder of the Middle East in terms of Human Development. I don't understand what more justification is needed to demonstrate it is moving in the right direction. Is Israel perfect?
(RHETORICAL) NO! Of course not. No country is perfect. But the mere fact that the Remainder of the Middle East wants to deconstruct Israel raises the Question: What direction do they want the combined populations to head? There is not a single country adjacent to Israel that can compare with the rate of development. What is it that you are asking. Do you want the entirety of the Adjacent Nations to be as far down on the Human Development Scale
(life expectancy, education, and income levels) as Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, or Egypt? In terms of the government serving the people, Israel is higher than every single Arab League nation (bar none) even the rich nations like Saudi Arabia, Oman, and the UAE. (Do you really want to exchange Israel for the remarkable developing Arab League States?)
What is the Arab objective in the deconstruction of Israel?
IF we sit down and assume that the ethical, moral and integrity of the Arabs on superior to that of the Israeli,
THEN:
- What do the people who think the machine-gunning of children on a bus want?
- What is it that the people that attack an Olympic team want?
- What is it that the people who support the hijacking of airlines wan?
- What is it that the people who hide behind the civilian populations want?
- What is it that the people who want to legitimize disruption and degradation of sovereign integrity want?
And I could go on, but you can see that the position the Arabs of the Middle East are taking questionable. Is it the case that the Arab Leaders believe that the leadership of the Arab Palestinians is more effective, honest and productive than that of Israel? Do the Arab Kingdoms want to suggest that the citizens have the solemn duty to overthrow their respective governments?
What is it that the Arab Palestinians want to emulate? Name that Arab League nation that is better-off than Israel... Name that Arab Nation that contributes more to the advancement of humanity than Israel...
OK, let's ask these questions and tell me about the honesty, integrity, and good moral values of a people that are so fond of incendiary devices... indiscriminate rocket firings, the kidnapping and murder of civilians, etc, etc etc...
Most Respectfully,
R