Israel does not target civilians?

[Kondor3]

...Israel retains control of Gaza's airspace and coastline that, according to UNSC and UNGC, is "occupation"...

Israel is engaged in 'containment'... a.k.a. pest control... and they try to minimize civilian casualties while doing it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel does not target civilians?

Of course not. It just kills them by the thousands with precision munitions.

 

[RoccoR]

Kondor3, Humanity, et al,

The observation by "Humanity" is correct, but the evaluation, by the UN and Permanent Court of Justice and others, of the observation is entirely wrong. Our Friend "Kondor" is more correct. "Containment" is the right word.

Various decision making entities in Israel had come to the conclusion, in 2005 (influenced by the response from Palestinians in the shadow of disengagement making the security situation worse), that Israel should focus on concentration of countermeasures in two directions:

• Motivations of the terrorist groups
• Operational capacity of the terrorist groups
​

Israel's counterterrorism strategy tries to reduce the motivation and operational capacity of terrorist groups, such as HAMAS, Palestine Islamic Jihad, Al-Aqsa Martyr Brigades, Fattah Tanzim, and Hezbollah to adopt terrorism as a tactic. The problem the Israelis face is that their tactics often give the terrorist groups even more motivation to attack. As the disengagement demonstrated, that the positive withdrawal cause just as much hostilities as would the expansion of settlements. There was no net positive gain. Thus, by 2009, Israeli had to institute the greater security in depth because it no longer had the ability to restore, and ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety, IAW Regulations 42 and 43 of the Hague. The criminal activity had to be interdicted outside the area of control by the Palestinian terrorist.

...Israel retains control of Gaza's airspace and coastline that, according to UNSC and UNGC, is "occupation"...

Israel is engaged in 'containment'... a.k.a. pest control... and they try to minimize civilian casualties while doing it.

(COMMENT)

False logic is as immersed issues around the Naval Blockades. The Naval Blockade is to assist the curbing of illicit traffic in small arms and and preventing them from the hands of designated terrorists (A/RES/53/77 B) and (A/RES/55/33 F) and (A/RES/61/66).

The is no reasonableness, on the part of Israel, in dropping its effective defense against Palestinian groups that have declare Jihad against Israel and wish to assume sovereignty over Israel.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Is this a whiled accusation, or do you actually know what weapons were used against what targets, with associated collateral civilian casualties?

Israel does not target civilians?

Of course not. It just kills them by the thousands with precision munitions.

(COMMENT)

And how many of those casualties were caused by a failure of HAMAS from evacuation the battlefield and launch sites?

How many of the casualties were caused by HAMAS from operating from densely populated areas?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Roudy]

Nope not a single Isrseli soldier in Gaza now. There is a blockade which has been deemed legal. No occupation and certainly not belligerent. The belligerent are the ones led by a terrorist group, not under occupation, with genocidal intentions and are constantly targeting Israeli civilians while hiding behind their own.

Hamas = ISIS of Gaza.

If Gaza isn't occupied, then why can't they leave?

Ask the Egyptians?

 

[Billo_Really]

Ask the Egyptians?

Why can't they leave by sea or air?

 

[Billo_Really]

Containment is different than occupation.

The Israelis merely keep your barbarian Neanderthals outside the gates...

You didn't answer the question.

 

[Roudy]

Ask the Egyptians?

Why can't they leave by sea or air?

Ask the Egyptians.

 

[Kondor3]

Israel does not target civilians?

Of course not. It just kills them by the thousands with precision munitions.

Indeed.

Precision munitions strike legitimate military targets - war assets embedded too close to civilians.

Stop embedding war-assets in such close proximity and this (large-scale collateral casualties) all goes away.

Easy.

 

[Kondor3]

Containment is different than occupation.

The Israelis merely keep your barbarian Neanderthals outside the gates...

You didn't answer the question.

Incorrect.

I noted that 'containment' is different than 'occupation'.

The Palestinians are being 'contained'.

'Containment', by definition, means you're forced to stay put.

Being forced to stay put means that you cannot leave.

Being unable to leave means that you're being contained, not occupied.

 

[Humanity]

...Israel retains control of Gaza's airspace and coastline that, according to UNSC and UNGC, is "occupation"...

Israel is engaged in 'containment'... a.k.a. pest control... and they try to minimize civilian casualties while doing it.

As already stated, UNSC, UNGC, several countries and humanitarian organisations consider the blockade "occupation"...

You dress it up any way you like to appease your zionut mentality, it's still "occupation"...

 

[P F Tinmore]

Kondor3, Humanity, et al,

The observation by "Humanity" is correct, but the evaluation, by the UN and Permanent Court of Justice and others, of the observation is entirely wrong. Our Friend "Kondor" is more correct. "Containment" is the right word.

Various decision making entities in Israel had come to the conclusion, in 2005 (influenced by the response from Palestinians in the shadow of disengagement making the security situation worse), that Israel should focus on concentration of countermeasures in two directions:

• Motivations of the terrorist groups
• Operational capacity of the terrorist groups
​

Israel's counterterrorism strategy tries to reduce the motivation and operational capacity of terrorist groups, such as HAMAS, Palestine Islamic Jihad, Al-Aqsa Martyr Brigades, Fattah Tanzim, and Hezbollah to adopt terrorism as a tactic. The problem the Israelis face is that their tactics often give the terrorist groups even more motivation to attack. As the disengagement demonstrated, that the positive withdrawal cause just as much hostilities as would the expansion of settlements. There was no net positive gain. Thus, by 2009, Israeli had to institute the greater security in depth because it no longer had the ability to restore, and ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety, IAW Regulations 42 and 43 of the Hague. The criminal activity had to be interdicted outside the area of control by the Palestinian terrorist.

...Israel retains control of Gaza's airspace and coastline that, according to UNSC and UNGC, is "occupation"...

Israel is engaged in 'containment'... a.k.a. pest control... and they try to minimize civilian casualties while doing it.

(COMMENT)

False logic is as immersed issues around the Naval Blockades. The Naval Blockade is to assist the curbing of illicit traffic in small arms and and preventing them from the hands of designated terrorists (A/RES/53/77 B) and (A/RES/55/33 F) and (A/RES/61/66).

The is no reasonableness, on the part of Israel, in dropping its effective defense against Palestinian groups that have declare Jihad against Israel and wish to assume sovereignty over Israel.

Most Respectfully,
R

As the disengagement demonstrated, that the positive withdrawal cause just as much hostilities as would the expansion of settlements.​

Your so called positive withdrawal included setting up a system of closure.

Trashing Gaza's economy was not considered positive by the Palestinians.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Is this a whiled accusation, or do you actually know what weapons were used against what targets, with associated collateral civilian casualties?

Israel does not target civilians?

Of course not. It just kills them by the thousands with precision munitions.

(COMMENT)

And how many of those casualties were caused by a failure of HAMAS from evacuation the battlefield and launch sites?

How many of the casualties were caused by HAMAS from operating from densely populated areas?

Most Respectfully,
R

Load of crap, Rocco.

15,000 homes destroyed, 22 UNRWA schools destroyed, Gaza's power plant, sewage treatment plant, 419 businesses destroyed, 36 fishing boats, 42,000 acres of farmland.

All because the lying sacks of shit in Israel say they were hiding militants. Yet only a few hundred militants were killed.

How can you pimp such obvious lies?

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Is this a whiled accusation, or do you actually know what weapons were used against what targets, with associated collateral civilian casualties?

Israel does not target civilians?

Of course not. It just kills them by the thousands with precision munitions.

(COMMENT)

And how many of those casualties were caused by a failure of HAMAS from evacuation the battlefield and launch sites?

How many of the casualties were caused by HAMAS from operating from densely populated areas?

Most Respectfully,
R

Load of crap, Rocco.

15,000 homes destroyed, 22 UNRWA schools destroyed, Gaza's power plant, sewage treatment plant, 419 businesses destroyed, 36 fishing boats, 42,000 acres of farmland.

All because the lying sacks of shit in Israel say they were hiding militants. Yet only a few hundred militants were killed.

How can you pimp such obvious lies?

Why is it that you believe you have an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism with no consequences?

 

[theliq]

Containment is different than occupation.

The Israelis merely keep your barbarian Neanderthals outside the gates...

You didn't answer the question.

Incorrect.

I noted that 'containment' is different than 'occupation'.

The Palestinians are being 'contained'.

'Containment', by definition, means you're forced to stay put.

Being forced to stay put means that you cannot leave.

Being unable to leave means that you're being contained, not occupied.

The Palestinians are under Occupation Kondie,just because you support this unlawful act,you are just defending the indefensible(Zionist Terrorism)by playing summantics sic with shabby words...................................................................your opinion is rank,like much of the Zionist ramblings. You think you are being clever in front of the Pro-Zionist Lobby on here,but I see it as someone who finds these piquant situations difficult to comprehend,in a word your Brain is under severe CONTAINMENT,fcuking shame really because you are not a bad Guy....................steve.......Kondie Seasons Greeting to your Family and yourself.

ps If you lived for yourself,you will live in vain,I am glad to say you don't
Live for us all Kondie and you will live again.

 

[theliq]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Is this a whiled accusation, or do you actually know what weapons were used against what targets, with associated collateral civilian casualties?

Israel does not target civilians?

Of course not. It just kills them by the thousands with precision munitions.

(COMMENT)

And how many of those casualties were caused by a failure of HAMAS from evacuation the battlefield and launch sites?

How many of the casualties were caused by HAMAS from operating from densely populated areas?

Most Respectfully,
R

Load of crap, Rocco.

15,000 homes destroyed, 22 UNRWA schools destroyed, Gaza's power plant, sewage treatment plant, 419 businesses destroyed, 36 fishing boats, 42,000 acres of farmland.

All because the lying sacks of shit in Israel say they were hiding militants. Yet only a few hundred militants were killed.

How can you pimp such obvious lies?

Why is it that you believe you have an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism with no consequences?

DUH

 

[theliq]

Israel does not target civilians?

Of course not. It just kills them by the thousands with precision munitions.

Indeed.

Precision munitions strike legitimate military targets - war assets embedded too close to civilians.

Stop embedding war-assets in such close proximity and this (large-scale collateral casualties) all goes away.

Easy.

Well so much for PRECISION MUNITION STRIKES because both Israel and the USA are fcuking hopeless at it.....thus the many deaths you both have created..............PRECISION MY ASS.

 

[theliq]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Is this a whiled accusation, or do you actually know what weapons were used against what targets, with associated collateral civilian casualties?

Israel does not target civilians?

Of course not. It just kills them by the thousands with precision munitions.

(COMMENT)

And how many of those casualties were caused by a failure of HAMAS from evacuation the battlefield and launch sites?

How many of the casualties were caused by HAMAS from operating from densely populated areas?

Most Respectfully,
R

Yet another GORMLESS retort,Gee Rocco you just get worse,as time prevails

 

[theliq]

Kondor3, Humanity, et al,

The observation by "Humanity" is correct, but the evaluation, by the UN and Permanent Court of Justice and others, of the observation is entirely wrong. Our Friend "Kondor" is more correct. "Containment" is the right word.

Various decision making entities in Israel had come to the conclusion, in 2005 (influenced by the response from Palestinians in the shadow of disengagement making the security situation worse), that Israel should focus on concentration of countermeasures in two directions:

• Motivations of the terrorist groups
• Operational capacity of the terrorist groups
​

Israel's counterterrorism strategy tries to reduce the motivation and operational capacity of terrorist groups, such as HAMAS, Palestine Islamic Jihad, Al-Aqsa Martyr Brigades, Fattah Tanzim, and Hezbollah to adopt terrorism as a tactic. The problem the Israelis face is that their tactics often give the terrorist groups even more motivation to attack. As the disengagement demonstrated, that the positive withdrawal cause just as much hostilities as would the expansion of settlements. There was no net positive gain. Thus, by 2009, Israeli had to institute the greater security in depth because it no longer had the ability to restore, and ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety, IAW Regulations 42 and 43 of the Hague. The criminal activity had to be interdicted outside the area of control by the Palestinian terrorist.

...Israel retains control of Gaza's airspace and coastline that, according to UNSC and UNGC, is "occupation"...

Israel is engaged in 'containment'... a.k.a. pest control... and they try to minimize civilian casualties while doing it.

(COMMENT)

False logic is as immersed issues around the Naval Blockades. The Naval Blockade is to assist the curbing of illicit traffic in small arms and and preventing them from the hands of designated terrorists (A/RES/53/77 B) and (A/RES/55/33 F) and (A/RES/61/66).

The is no reasonableness, on the part of Israel, in dropping its effective defense against Palestinian groups that have declare Jihad against Israel and wish to assume sovereignty over Israel.

Most Respectfully,
R

YAWN

 

[Rehmani]

...Then why not, jews stuck around Telaviv in Israel. Why jews invade home land of Palestinian.

Off topic.

But it does not make any difference... the Jews own the place now... time for your people to leave.

Off topic.

Israel is killing civilian. Are you blind.

The question at-hand is whether Israel INTENTIONALLY TARGETS civilians, not whether they're killing them.

When Hamas embeds its war-assets amongst its civilian population, hiding behind the skirts of its women and children like cowards, casualties are inevitable.

Hamas does not hide "behind the skirts of it woamen and children". It is Zionist propaganda. The cowards are the Israelis, that intentional bomb residential apartment buildings housing women and children or schools, killing women and children by the thousands. Israel intentionally bombs civilians no amount of projection and propaganda mongering can change the facts as presented by the UN or various NGOs and human rights organizations.

"Well, you know, despite the Israeli ambassador’s claim that Israel deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for its extraordinary restraint and its extraordinary care to spare civilian lives, Human Rights Watch has seen from the ground, based on our investigations in Gaza, that that’s anything but the case. And no matter how many times the Israeli military spokesmen scream, "Human shields! Human shields!" most of the people being killed in Gaza are being killed because Israel is paying insufficient care to saving civilian lives. There’s been case after case in which Israel has used the wrong weaponry or has shot at people with many civilians around. And these, in our view, are war crimes."

Kenneth Roth

Former federal prosecutor for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York and Executive Director of HRW. Kenneth Roth is Jewish, by the way.

Hamas usage of human shields is a well established and proven fact. Their cowardice knows no bounds.

And you know the facts but don't have enough courage to accept the facts as it all jews nature.