Israel does not target civilians?

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And how many of those casualties were caused by a failure of HAMAS from evacuation the battlefield and launch sites?

How many of the casualties were caused by HAMAS from operating from densely populated areas?

Precision munitions strike legitimate military targets - war assets embedded too close to civilians.

Stop embedding war-assets in such close proximity and this (large-scale collateral casualties) all goes away.

Strawman arguments; if the Zionist IDF has the capability to do this:



and



there can be no justification for this


Unless the intent is to kill indiscriminately.

Such silly melodrama. Why not provide some background on the last photo you cut and pasted (unattributed, unsourced and unidentified)?

Why do you excuse cowardice on the part of your Islamist terrorist heroes who wage wars of aggression from behind women and children?







A stock photo that Al Jazeera used and claimed was gaza, was in fact Syria. Shows how gullible and easily fooled rat boy is.
 
Once a Palestinian Haven, Affluent Gaza Town Reduced to Rubble
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Rehmani, et al,

OK --- I'll play: Arab Palestine for 200$...

Invaders are invader and they have no right to own some one else country and invaders have to leave.
(COMMENT)

What Arab State did the Jewish Immigrants take?

What Arab State existed, west of the Jordan River, on 15 MAY 1948?

Most Respectfully,
R
Why do you keep pimping Israeli propaganda.

You know that the rights of the people do not require a state.
 
Once a Palestinian Haven, Affluent Gaza Town Reduced to Rubble
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At the link:

"In Khuzaa, people say at least 70 were killed and more bodies may lie beneath the rubble. It was a site of fierce fighting between Israeli forces, Hamas and other Palestinian militants, who said they detonated explosives and fired anti-tank rockets at Israeli troops."


So it would appear that once again your Islamist terrorist heroes were using civilians and civilian infrastructure to wage war.

Once again, you were given a beatdown by the better military.

Petition UNRWA for more welfare dollars.
 
Rehmani, et al,

OK --- I'll play: Arab Palestine for 200$...

Invaders are invader and they have no right to own some one else country and invaders have to leave.
(COMMENT)

What Arab State did the Jewish Immigrants take?

What Arab State existed, west of the Jordan River, on 15 MAY 1948?

Most Respectfully,
R
Why do you keep pimping Israeli propaganda.

You know that the rights of the people do not require a state.






Did those rights exist in 1917, 1923, 1948 or 1967, Or are they a more recent thing that are not yet international law ?
 
Once a Palestinian Haven, Affluent Gaza Town Reduced to Rubble
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Source is Reuters and we all know how they like to be biased against the Jews

Hang on... You just said it was Al Jazeera and proven to be Syria?

So, it IS Gaza then...

To be fair, I really don't give a flying **** whether you think that Reuters are biased or not (I believe them to be pretty balanced)...

But Reuters did NOT raise this Gazan town to the ground!
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

And just where does it say that the Arab has the right of insurrection or to steal the sovereignty of the territory of another.

Rehmani, et al,

OK --- I'll play: Arab Palestine for 200$...

Invaders are invader and they have no right to own some one else country and invaders have to leave.
(COMMENT)

What Arab State did the Jewish Immigrants take?

What Arab State existed, west of the Jordan River, on 15 MAY 1948?

Most Respectfully,
R
Why do you keep pimping Israeli propaganda.

You know that the rights of the people do not require a state.
(COMMENT)

The treaty did not surrender the land to the Arab, it surrendered the land to the Allied Powers.

The argument that the right of the Jewish Immigrants is just as valid; even more so since they successfully defended their independence.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
Once a Palestinian Haven, Affluent Gaza Town Reduced to Rubble
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Source is Reuters and we all know how they like to be biased against the Jews

Hang on... You just said it was Al Jazeera and proven to be Syria?

So, it IS Gaza then...

To be fair, I really don't give a flying **** whether you think that Reuters are biased or not (I believe them to be pretty balanced)...

But Reuters did NOT raise this Gazan town to the ground!





The source was Rueters and it was reproduced by Al Jazeera. The fact that doing a google search on the pictures shows it to be Syria is what counts.

And there are far too many groups proving reuters to be biased against Israel for them not to be.
 
NOPE the source is biased as it is funded from Islamic sources, try the Goldstone report that says the Palestinians committed more war crimes than Israel. Or even the UN that decreed that every rocket fired is a war crime.
The Goldstone Report didn't say anything of the kind, you lying piece of shit.

Here's what it did say...

Palestinian's using human shields:

The Mission found no evidence, however, to suggest that Palestinian armed groups either directed civilians to areas where attacks were being launched or that they forced civilians to remain within the vicinity of the attacks.

Israeli's using human shields:

The Mission investigated four incidents in which the Israeli armed forces coerced Palestinian civilian men at gunpoint to take part in house searches during the military operations (chap. XIV). The men were blindfolded and handcuffed as they were forced to enter houses ahead of the Israeli soldiers.

The Mission concludes that this practice amounts to the use of Palestinian civilians as human shields and is therefore prohibited by international humanitarian law. It puts the right to life of the civilians at risk in an arbitrary and unlawful manner and constitutes cruel and inhuman treatment. The use of human shields also is a war crime.

The Palestinian men used as human shields were questioned under threat of death or injury to extract information about Hamas, Palestinian combatants and tunnels. This constitutes a further violation of international humanitarian law.
Human shield summary:
Israeli's: Yes
Palestinian's: No

Deliberate attacks against civilians:

The Mission investigated 11 incidents in which the Israeli armed forces launched direct attacks against civilians with lethal outcome (chap. XI). The facts in all bar one of the attacks indicate no justifiable military objective.

...the Mission finds that the conduct of the Israeli armed forces constitutes grave breaches of the Fourth Geneva Convention in respect of wilful killings and wilfully causing great suffering to protected persons and, as such, give rise to individual criminal responsibility. It also finds that the direct targeting and arbitrary killing of Palestinian civilians is a violation of the right to life.
Palestinian's deliberately targeting civilians:

According to the Government of Israel, during the military operations there were four Israeli fatalities in southern Israel, of whom three were civilians and one a soldier. They were killed by rocket and mortar attacks by Palestinian armed groups. In addition, nine Israeli soldiers were killed during the fighting inside the Gaza strip, four of whom as a result of friendly fire.
Targeting of civilians summary:

Israel: Committed grave breaches of the Geneva Convention by deliberately targeting civilians and infrastructure; and killed 4 of their own soldiers.

Palestinian's: 3 civilians killed; 10 Israeli soldiers killed (4 killed by friendly fire).
You must really enjoy lying, you fucked up little troll?
 
And just where does it say that the Arab has the right of insurrection or to steal the sovereignty of the territory of another.
Right here.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution A/RES/33/24 of 29 November 1978:
“2. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;”

Note that Israel has no sovereignty in the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and East Jerusalem.


The treaty did not surrender the land to the Arab, it surrendered the land to the Allied Powers.
Don't change the subject, that's not the issue. The "land" in question, was seized during the '67 war.


The argument that the right of the Jewish Immigrants is just as valid; even more so since they successfully defended their independence.
Not when you're an overwhelming minority.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

And just where does it say that the Arab has the right of insurrection or to steal the sovereignty of the territory of another.

Rehmani, et al,

OK --- I'll play: Arab Palestine for 200$...

Invaders are invader and they have no right to own some one else country and invaders have to leave.
(COMMENT)

What Arab State did the Jewish Immigrants take?

What Arab State existed, west of the Jordan River, on 15 MAY 1948?

Most Respectfully,
R
Why do you keep pimping Israeli propaganda.

You know that the rights of the people do not require a state.
(COMMENT)

The treaty did not surrender the land to the Arab, it surrendered the land to the Allied Powers.

The argument that the right of the Jewish Immigrants is just as valid; even more so since they successfully defended their independence.

Most Respectfully,
R
Are you suggesting that the Palestinians stole someone else's territory.

Link?
 
Once a Palestinian Haven, Affluent Gaza Town Reduced to Rubble
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Source is Reuters and we all know how they like to be biased against the Jews

Hang on... You just said it was Al Jazeera and proven to be Syria?

So, it IS Gaza then...

To be fair, I really don't give a flying **** whether you think that Reuters are biased or not (I believe them to be pretty balanced)...

But Reuters did NOT raise this Gazan town to the ground!





The source was Rueters and it was reproduced by Al Jazeera. The fact that doing a google search on the pictures shows it to be Syria is what counts.

And there are far too many groups proving reuters to be biased against Israel for them not to be.

Well, two things....

1) Provide a link that proves this is Syria...
2) I do find it quick sick that you prefer to argue over where a photograph is taken than deplore the actions...

We can all search Google for images of destruction in Gaza... None very different to the 'questionable' image

images of gaza destroyed - Pesquisa Google
 
Off topic.

But it does not make any difference... the Jews own the place now... time for your people to leave.
Off topic.

Israel is killing civilian. Are you blind.
The question at-hand is whether Israel INTENTIONALLY TARGETS civilians, not whether they're killing them.

When Hamas embeds its war-assets amongst its civilian population, hiding behind the skirts of its women and children like cowards, casualties are inevitable.

Hamas does not hide "behind the skirts of it woamen and children". It is Zionist propaganda. The cowards are the Israelis, that intentional bomb residential apartment buildings housing women and children or schools, killing women and children by the thousands. Israel intentionally bombs civilians no amount of projection and propaganda mongering can change the facts as presented by the UN or various NGOs and human rights organizations.

"Well, you know, despite the Israeli ambassador’s claim that Israel deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for its extraordinary restraint and its extraordinary care to spare civilian lives, Human Rights Watch has seen from the ground, based on our investigations in Gaza, that that’s anything but the case. And no matter how many times the Israeli military spokesmen scream, "Human shields! Human shields!" most of the people being killed in Gaza are being killed because Israel is paying insufficient care to saving civilian lives. There’s been case after case in which Israel has used the wrong weaponry or has shot at people with many civilians around. And these, in our view, are war crimes."

Kenneth Roth

Former federal prosecutor for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York and Executive Director of HRW. Kenneth Roth is Jewish, by the way.

Hamas usage of human shields is a well established and proven fact. Their cowardice knows no bounds.
And you know the facts but don't have enough courage to accept the facts as it all jews nature.

The facts are that Hamas uses its own civilians as human shields. Their fighters do not wear uniforms for this very purpose. They're savages and cowards. But then again, that's what all Islamists are.
 
...Then why not, jews stuck around Telaviv in Israel. Why jews invade home land of Palestinian.
Off topic.

But it does not make any difference... the Jews own the place now... time for your people to leave.
Off topic.

Israel is killing civilian. Are you blind.
The question at-hand is whether Israel INTENTIONALLY TARGETS civilians, not whether they're killing them.

When Hamas embeds its war-assets amongst its civilian population, hiding behind the skirts of its women and children like cowards, casualties are inevitable.
But the facts are that Israelis are killing civilian brutally and cowardly.

Can you provide a link that Israelis target civilians intentionally. But we do know that's what Islamist animals do in the name of Allah.
 
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NOPE the source is biased as it is funded from Islamic sources, try the Goldstone report that says the Palestinians committed more war crimes than Israel. Or even the UN that decreed that every rocket fired is a war crime.
The Goldstone Report didn't say anything of the kind, you lying piece of shit.

Here's what it did say...

Palestinian's using human shields:

The Mission found no evidence, however, to suggest that Palestinian armed groups either directed civilians to areas where attacks were being launched or that they forced civilians to remain within the vicinity of the attacks.

Israeli's using human shields:

The Mission investigated four incidents in which the Israeli armed forces coerced Palestinian civilian men at gunpoint to take part in house searches during the military operations (chap. XIV). The men were blindfolded and handcuffed as they were forced to enter houses ahead of the Israeli soldiers.

The Mission concludes that this practice amounts to the use of Palestinian civilians as human shields and is therefore prohibited by international humanitarian law. It puts the right to life of the civilians at risk in an arbitrary and unlawful manner and constitutes cruel and inhuman treatment. The use of human shields also is a war crime.

The Palestinian men used as human shields were questioned under threat of death or injury to extract information about Hamas, Palestinian combatants and tunnels. This constitutes a further violation of international humanitarian law.
Human shield summary:
Israeli's: Yes
Palestinian's: No

Deliberate attacks against civilians:

The Mission investigated 11 incidents in which the Israeli armed forces launched direct attacks against civilians with lethal outcome (chap. XI). The facts in all bar one of the attacks indicate no justifiable military objective.

...the Mission finds that the conduct of the Israeli armed forces constitutes grave breaches of the Fourth Geneva Convention in respect of wilful killings and wilfully causing great suffering to protected persons and, as such, give rise to individual criminal responsibility. It also finds that the direct targeting and arbitrary killing of Palestinian civilians is a violation of the right to life.
Palestinian's deliberately targeting civilians:

According to the Government of Israel, during the military operations there were four Israeli fatalities in southern Israel, of whom three were civilians and one a soldier. They were killed by rocket and mortar attacks by Palestinian armed groups. In addition, nine Israeli soldiers were killed during the fighting inside the Gaza strip, four of whom as a result of friendly fire.
Targeting of civilians summary:

Israel: Committed grave breaches of the Geneva Convention by deliberately targeting civilians and infrastructure; and killed 4 of their own soldiers.

Palestinian's: 3 civilians killed; 10 Israeli soldiers killed (4 killed by friendly fire).
You must really enjoy lying, you fucked up little troll?





Did you miss this then


Palestinian armed groups, where they launched attacks close to civilian or protected buildings, unnecessarily exposed the civilian population of Gaza to danger.
 
And just where does it say that the Arab has the right of insurrection or to steal the sovereignty of the territory of another.
Right here.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution A/RES/33/24 of 29 November 1978:
“2. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;”

Note that Israel has no sovereignty in the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and East Jerusalem.


The treaty did not surrender the land to the Arab, it surrendered the land to the Allied Powers.
Don't change the subject, that's not the issue. The "land" in question, was seized during the '67 war.


The argument that the right of the Jewish Immigrants is just as valid; even more so since they successfully defended their independence.
Not when you're an overwhelming minority.






Neither does Palestine as they are split by politics and religion.

No as we are talking about pre 1948 and the land was never surrendered to the arab muslims

Do explain how when the Jews outnumber the Palestinians inside Israel. They only occupy and police the west bank for defensive purposes. The Jews have demonstrated free determination, when will the Palestinian arab muslims ?
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

And just where does it say that the Arab has the right of insurrection or to steal the sovereignty of the territory of another.

Rehmani, et al,

OK --- I'll play: Arab Palestine for 200$...

Invaders are invader and they have no right to own some one else country and invaders have to leave.
(COMMENT)

What Arab State did the Jewish Immigrants take?

What Arab State existed, west of the Jordan River, on 15 MAY 1948?

Most Respectfully,
R
Why do you keep pimping Israeli propaganda.

You know that the rights of the people do not require a state.
(COMMENT)

The treaty did not surrender the land to the Arab, it surrendered the land to the Allied Powers.

The argument that the right of the Jewish Immigrants is just as valid; even more so since they successfully defended their independence.

Most Respectfully,
R
Are you suggesting that the Palestinians stole someone else's territory.

Link?




YES look at the terms and conditions of the LoN charter and the LoN mandate for Palestine. The arab muslims received 78% of Palestine and the Jews 22%. So why do the arab muslims want what was never theirs to begin with.
 
Once a Palestinian Haven, Affluent Gaza Town Reduced to Rubble
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read more: Once a Palestinian haven, affluent Gaza town reduced to rubble - Diplomacy and Defense







Source is Reuters and we all know how they like to be biased against the Jews

Hang on... You just said it was Al Jazeera and proven to be Syria?

So, it IS Gaza then...

To be fair, I really don't give a flying **** whether you think that Reuters are biased or not (I believe them to be pretty balanced)...

But Reuters did NOT raise this Gazan town to the ground!





The source was Rueters and it was reproduced by Al Jazeera. The fact that doing a google search on the pictures shows it to be Syria is what counts.

And there are far too many groups proving reuters to be biased against Israel for them not to be.

Well, two things....

1) Provide a link that proves this is Syria...
2) I do find it quick sick that you prefer to argue over where a photograph is taken than deplore the actions...

We can all search Google for images of destruction in Gaza... None very different to the 'questionable' image

images of gaza destroyed - Pesquisa Google





Why don't you the means and methods of doing so have been posted on this board many times

What I find sick is islamonuts believing that every picture supposedly of gaza is actually gaza so they can justify their hatred of the Jews, Zionists and Israel
 
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