NOPE the source is biased as it is funded from Islamic sources, try the Goldstone report that says the Palestinians committed more war crimes than Israel. Or even the UN that decreed that every rocket fired is a war crime.
Israel does not target civilians?
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NOPE the source is biased as it is funded from Islamic sources, try the Goldstone report that says the Palestinians committed more war crimes than Israel. Or even the UN that decreed that every rocket fired is a war crime.
By facts you mean Islamic facts don't you, and not proven unbiased non partisan facts that show the Palestinians are in fact behind the murders of the civilians.
But the facts are that Israelis are killing civilian brutally and cowardly.
RoccoR
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"Billo_Really, et al,
This is so very simple.
Arab Leaders, Viewing Hamas as Worse Than Israel, Stay Silent
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICKJULY 30, 2014
After the military ouster of the Islamist government in Cairo last year, Egypt has led a new coalition of Arab states — including Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates — that has effectively lined up with Israel in its fight against Hamas, the Islamist movement that controls the Gaza Strip. That, in turn, may have contributed to the failure of the antagonists to reach a negotiated cease-fire even after more than three weeks of bloodshed.
“The Arab states’ loathing and fear of political Islam is so strong that it outweighs their allergy to Benjamin Netanyahu,” the prime minister of Israel, said Aaron David Miller, a scholar at the Wilson Center in Washington and a former Middle East negotiator under several presidents.
Egypt sides with Israel in conflict with Hamas
Sarah Lynch, Special for USA TODAY 24 July 2014
Normally, Egyptians would be decrying Israel for the Palestinian death toll in Gaza, which is at more than 750 and rising. But Abou Ahmed Shehab, 60, who sells scarves at a sidewalk stand in central Cairo, was quick to attack Hamas.
"The reason for what's happening to our Palestinian brothers is because of Hamas," he says. "Hamas is an extremist group."
Arab journalist: Arab leaders pray Israel will get rid of Hamas once and for all
Written by Allen West on July 21, 2014
ut what I’m quite certain you haven’t heard or seen is the point of view from Gaza-born Arab journalist, Abd Al-Bari Atwan. According to Atwan, even Arab leaders are tired of Hamas and “pray Israel will get rid of Hamas once and for all.”
(COMMENT)
This is not a new phenomenon. Several Regional Arab governments have either kept quiet or publicly condemned Hamas for the crisis — while privately often expressing their support for Israel's bid to weaken the radical Palestinian group.
This dates back to a time before Operation Cast Lead. The Arab Regional governments understand that the Palestinian Islamic Resistance is intentionally igniting periodic conflicts to make it outwardly appear that the Palestinians are the victims.
This is a matter of quarantining a dangerous threat, that if given unrestrained freedoms, could set the region on fire.
Most Respectfully,
R
This is so very simple.
(OBSERVATION)
Arab Leaders, Viewing Hamas as Worse Than Israel, Stay Silent
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICKJULY 30, 2014
After the military ouster of the Islamist government in Cairo last year, Egypt has led a new coalition of Arab states — including Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates — that has effectively lined up with Israel in its fight against Hamas, the Islamist movement that controls the Gaza Strip. That, in turn, may have contributed to the failure of the antagonists to reach a negotiated cease-fire even after more than three weeks of bloodshed.
“The Arab states’ loathing and fear of political Islam is so strong that it outweighs their allergy to Benjamin Netanyahu,” the prime minister of Israel, said Aaron David Miller, a scholar at the Wilson Center in Washington and a former Middle East negotiator under several presidents.
Egypt sides with Israel in conflict with Hamas
Sarah Lynch, Special for USA TODAY 24 July 2014
Normally, Egyptians would be decrying Israel for the Palestinian death toll in Gaza, which is at more than 750 and rising. But Abou Ahmed Shehab, 60, who sells scarves at a sidewalk stand in central Cairo, was quick to attack Hamas.
"The reason for what's happening to our Palestinian brothers is because of Hamas," he says. "Hamas is an extremist group."
Arab journalist: Arab leaders pray Israel will get rid of Hamas once and for all
Written by Allen West on July 21, 2014
ut what I’m quite certain you haven’t heard or seen is the point of view from Gaza-born Arab journalist, Abd Al-Bari Atwan. According to Atwan, even Arab leaders are tired of Hamas and “pray Israel will get rid of Hamas once and for all.”
This is not a new phenomenon. Several Regional Arab governments have either kept quiet or publicly condemned Hamas for the crisis — while privately often expressing their support for Israel's bid to weaken the radical Palestinian group.
This dates back to a time before Operation Cast Lead. The Arab Regional governments understand that the Palestinian Islamic Resistance is intentionally igniting periodic conflicts to make it outwardly appear that the Palestinians are the victims.
This is a matter of quarantining a dangerous threat, that if given unrestrained freedoms, could set the region on fire.
Most Respectfully,
R
Invaders are invader and they have no right to own some one else country and invaders have to leave.
RoccoR
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Rehmani, et al,
OK --- I'll play: Arab Palestine for 200$...
What Arab State did the Jewish Immigrants take?
What Arab State existed, west of the Jordan River, on 15 MAY 1948?
Most Respectfully,
R
OK --- I'll play: Arab Palestine for 200$...
(COMMENT)
What Arab State did the Jewish Immigrants take?
What Arab State existed, west of the Jordan River, on 15 MAY 1948?
Most Respectfully,
R
Challenger
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That's the price they've been paying for letting the Zionist barbarian Neandethals through the gates in the first place.
Look phoney you are jew and you don't want to accept the facts that jews are invaders and Palestinian are under occupation and known to world freedom fighter.
Challenger
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Palestine, to both questions.
Challenger
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Strawman arguments; if the Zionist IDF has the capability to do this:
and
there can be no justification for this
Unless the intent is to kill indiscriminately.
It really doesn't matter. The Jews of Israel are engaged in Reconquista, and, given the few slivers of land remaining to be secured, their multi-generational goal is now in sight.
I'm not trying to defend it. There is never any defense for Reconquista. Just as there is never any defense for original Conquest. I merely support the soon-to-be Winner.
I thought they were entirely functional words, and that they did a good yeoman's job as a partisan exercise in applied logic.
If that's meant to be a literary review... don't quit your day-job.
No... I think I'm one voice amongst many friends of Israel, who stand against a Muslim-Palestinian online propaganda machine; and their fifth-column tag-alongs.
Oh, I comprehend the full range of options well enough on the macro level; it's just that there is only one solution (Israeli completion of their Reconquista) left on the table.
The time for creating a Palestinian State would have been anytime in the period 1948-1967, and, failing that, at various points between 1967 and 2000 - the beginning of the 2nd Intifada - which closed that window forevermore. Since then, and by now, there isn't enough contiguous land remaining in which to create a Palestinian State, anyway. It's over.
A one-state solution will not work; that window closed back in the 1950s or 1960s.
A two-state solution will not work; that window closed in 2000 with the 2nd Intifada.
That means that, ultimately, either the Israelis or the Palestinians have to go.
The Israelis have all the playing cards and all the muscle, so it won't be them.
Which means the Palestinians have to go.
As a matter of policy and practice, Israel does not intentionally target civilians in order to inflict civilian casualties, but the insistence of Hamas, et al, in continuing to embed war assets (rocket launchers, operations centers, staging areas, sally ports and tunnels, logistics centers, munitions caches, communications centers, etc.) in civilian residential neighborhoods, mosques, schools, hospitals and clinics, etc., have resulted in large numbers of unintentional but necessary civilian casualties, as the Israelis have prosecuted this ongoing asymmetrical warfare with their sworn mortal enemies.
As to how the Palestinians will leave...
They can go, carried out by their feet, or...
They can go, walking out, with their families and belongings, and with the prospect of a happy, safe, secure life and a prosperous future, elsewhere, to look forward to.
Life is almost always a better choice than Death.
The rag-tag so-called Palestinians need to choose Life.
Thank you for your opinion.
Thank you. And to you, as well.
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Of course there is a justification...
It's called annihilating enemy military targets...
Given the power of the weapons required to do such a thing...
It is incumbent upon Hamas et al to ensure that they do not endanger their civilians by embedding war assets close enough to their civilians so as to trigger such collateral damage to civilian infrastructure or to trigger large numbers of civilian casualties.
The longer that Hamas et al continue to embed war assets amongst their civilians, the longer we will continue to see such unfortunate but necessary civilian casualties...
The answer is simple...
Move the war assets.
RoccoR
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Challenger, et al,
Wrong.
02/27/1948
PAL/138 Future government of Palestine - UN Palestine Commission as successor Government of Palestine/UK memorandum (excerpts) - Press release
(COMMENT)
The name Palestine was a designated short title for the territory to which the Mandate applied. Paragraph 1, Palestine Order in Council, League of Nations.
Palestine was not an Arab State. It was a "legal entity" under the Administration of the designated Mandatory, appointed by the Allied Powers.
Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The Arab Higher Committee rejected the offer presented by Resolution 181 (II), and the opportunity to participate in the Steps Preparatory to Independence.
On mid-night 14/15 May 1948, Jewish State [Part II, Section B - Boundaries, General Assembly Resolution 181 (II)] became a self-governing sovereignty. No establishment of an Arab State was coordinated.
Most Respectfully,
R
Wrong.
(REFERENCE)
02/27/1948
(COMMENT)
The name Palestine was a designated short title for the territory to which the Mandate applied. Paragraph 1, Palestine Order in Council, League of Nations.
Palestine was not an Arab State. It was a "legal entity" under the Administration of the designated Mandatory, appointed by the Allied Powers.
Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The Arab Higher Committee rejected the offer presented by Resolution 181 (II), and the opportunity to participate in the Steps Preparatory to Independence.
On mid-night 14/15 May 1948, Jewish State [Part II, Section B - Boundaries, General Assembly Resolution 181 (II)] became a self-governing sovereignty. No establishment of an Arab State was coordinated.
Most Respectfully,
R
Awwwwww... isn't that cute... Automatic Gainsay... how quaint... although I have no idea how that advances this sidebar about Occupation vs. Containment...
Strawman arguments; if the Zionist IDF has the capability to do this:
and
there can be no justification for this
Unless the intent is to kill indiscriminately.
Such silly melodrama. Why not provide some background on the last photo you cut and pasted (unattributed, unsourced and unidentified)?
Why do you excuse cowardice on the part of your Islamist terrorist heroes who wage wars of aggression from behind women and children?
Then provide the evidence and you will see Israel attacked by the rest of the world. Refuse and you will be seen as just another LYING propagandist.
FACT hamas breaches the Geneva conventions by placing rocket launchers in civilian areas
FACT hamas does this so that civilians will be killed
FACT Israel gives warning of where they will attack and hamas stops the citizens from leaving their homes
FACT Under international law hamas are the ones murdering the civilians and they should be dealt with by the ICC/ICJ
I agree so tell the arab muslims to pack their bags and go as they have invaded Palestine. Then tell then to go from all the western nations they have invaded.
They had no choice as they did not control the land and after the defeat of the ottomans in 1917 they lost any chance of ever getting the land.
So where are the international treaties giving the land to the arab muslims to create a Palestinian state.
When did this state come into existence as the Ottomans refused it as did the LoN.
Strawman arguments; if the Zionist IDF has the capability to do this:
and
there can be no justification for this
Unless the intent is to kill indiscriminately.
Not a bad picture of Syria you have used there
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