Isn't This Great? Trump Ending DACA Will Create 700,000 Jobs

[Care4all]

1. Very funny. So by serving as a nurse or interpreter in the military doesn't qualify as they served in the military?

2. Your link from WAPO and this kid Saini is just expressing concern that they might get deported. Not sure what you are trying to explain.

3. If you read the scope of this thread and other threads the threat of taking American jobs are concentrated on Hispanic people. Not by Asians, Middle Easterners or Europeans.

4. True. But again the target by most of these members here are the Hispanic people are not paying taxes.

They are not serving, they merely signed up to enter yet have been denied entry due to back ground check requirements that they can't pass.

Saini signed up, yet he has yet to get to basic training due to the fact he can't clear a back ground check as the requirement for entry to basic training, no EWI can, which is why the handful in the MAVNI program are visa overstays that were allowed DACA.

I know the scope of this thread, jobs are taken by illegals, period. Doesn't matter if they are Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern.

It is illegals in general that aren't paying enough in taxes, both at the local level through the state and federal levels as well. Legalizing them won't change their costs or future expenses.

not really....

they are not taking jobs....without the 20 million illegals living here there would be less jobs in the USA...less homes built to own or for rent, less cars sold and made, less food grown and harvested, less teachers needed, less medical facilities needed less clothes sold less of everything for the 20 million living here...

WHEN America was great, we were great because our population was GROWING leaps and bounds year after year, which made our economy grow almost by default...

Americans have stopped having children at the rate we once did....and the politicians ignored illegal immigration for decades because we needed more people to keep the GDP increasing imo.... they should have just raised the quotas for LEGAL immigrants from all countries or even favored countries...

 

[Liquid Reigns]

1. Very funny. So by serving as a nurse or interpreter in the military doesn't qualify as they served in the military?

2. Your link from WAPO and this kid Saini is just expressing concern that they might get deported. Not sure what you are trying to explain.

3. If you read the scope of this thread and other threads the threat of taking American jobs are concentrated on Hispanic people. Not by Asians, Middle Easterners or Europeans.

4. True. But again the target by most of these members here are the Hispanic people are not paying taxes.

They are not serving, they merely signed up to enter yet have been denied entry due to back ground check requirements that they can't pass.

Saini signed up, yet he has yet to get to basic training due to the fact he can't clear a back ground check as the requirement for entry to basic training, no EWI can, which is why the handful in the MAVNI program are visa overstays that were allowed DACA.

I know the scope of this thread, jobs are taken by illegals, period. Doesn't matter if they are Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern.

It is illegals in general that aren't paying enough in taxes, both at the local level through the state and federal levels as well. Legalizing them won't change their costs or future expenses.

not really....

they are not taking jobs....without the 20 million illegals living here there would be less jobs in the USA...less homes built to own or for rent, less cars sold and made, less food grown and harvested, less teachers needed, less medical facilities needed less clothes sold less of everything for the 20 million living here...

WHEN America was great, we were great because our population was GROWING leaps and bounds year after year, which made our economy grow almost by default...

Americans have stopped having children at the rate we once did....and the politicians ignored illegal immigration for decades because we needed more people to keep the GDP increasing imo.... they should have just raised the quotas for LEGAL immigrants from all countries or even favored countries...

Sure they are taking jobs, they also compete for work, working for less and driving down wages. The rest is subjective and though illegals may be part of some of it they by no means are the result of it. Most cars illegals buy are used cars for cash, homes most rent, classes for kids are already overcrowded and ESL causes the regular children to be reigned in to have the ESL catch up, they also require special teachers (another additional expense for schools and property tax). I can go on but it would require pages of response.

Population growth doesn't make America Great, never has. Our resources are by no means finite. Our economy doesn't necessarily grow due to population growth, it is a small part of it but not as major as you are claiming.

Illegals cost the GDP -.1%, or about $15B per year. Population stabilization or less population growth isn't a bad thing. Family visas have no cap, H2A AG visas have no annual cap, the rest of the worker visas have annual caps of about 66K. What quotas really needs to be increased?

 

[Fiero425]

1. Very funny. So by serving as a nurse or interpreter in the military doesn't qualify as they served in the military?

2. Your link from WAPO and this kid Saini is just expressing concern that they might get deported. Not sure what you are trying to explain.

3. If you read the scope of this thread and other threads the threat of taking American jobs are concentrated on Hispanic people. Not by Asians, Middle Easterners or Europeans.

4. True. But again the target by most of these members here are the Hispanic people are not paying taxes.

They are not serving, they merely signed up to enter yet have been denied entry due to back ground check requirements that they can't pass.

Saini signed up, yet he has yet to get to basic training due to the fact he can't clear a back ground check as the requirement for entry to basic training, no EWI can, which is why the handful in the MAVNI program are visa overstays that were allowed DACA.

I know the scope of this thread, jobs are taken by illegals, period. Doesn't matter if they are Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern.

It is illegals in general that aren't paying enough in taxes, both at the local level through the state and federal levels as well. Legalizing them won't change their costs or future expenses.

not really....

they are not taking jobs....without the 20 million illegals living here there would be less jobs in the USA...less homes built to own or for rent, less cars sold and made, less food grown and harvested, less teachers needed, less medical facilities needed less clothes sold less of everything for the 20 million living here...

WHEN America was great, we were great because our population was GROWING leaps and bounds year after year, which made our economy grow almost by default...

Americans have stopped having children at the rate we once did....and the politicians ignored illegal immigration for decades because we needed more people to keep the GDP increasing imo.... they should have just raised the quotas for LEGAL immigrants from all countries or even favored countries...

Some idiot politicians are always stoking those flames b!tchin' about jobs being taken away! The fact is our economy would be hurt if we deported all of them! People forget they do pay taxes, probably don't get the benefits of it, and more than likely doing the jobs we won't do! People need to grow the FK up and stop scapegoating others to make themselves victims! Feeling better acting like arseholes doesn't last long! If they're too stupid to do better and get a decent job in this economy, who's fault is that really? Throwing out illegals isn't going to help them in the least! Thanks!

 

[busybee01]

Link on bank robber s children law?
How'd they profit?

We don't punish children for their parent's crimes in this Nation....the sins of the father are not passed on to the son.

We don't punish children for the sins of parents but children are punished none the less. Ask any child put in the foster system because parents have been convicted of crimes. They are being punished. Ask the children of a debtor who won't or can't pay the car payment or mortgage. They must walk to school, take the bus to medical appointments or live on the street. Children do not benefit from parental crimes whether this is a punishment or not is up to you. If we were a sane people, the children of invaders would never get any benefit from parental crimes, then parents would stop committing those crimes.

You are right, indirectly children are punished for their parent's sins and these kids, now adults, have lived in fear for most of their lives until recently...yet they stayed in school, kept their noses clean, did not disrespect our laws as their parent's did... and know, no other country as their own, but this one...

they are the only ones in this illegal immigration problem, that actually broke no laws themselves....if there ever was one group that we show mercy on, to me....it would be them.

their parents can still be deported for their crimes, but these DACA's/.dreamers should be shown that mercy, imo.

Bullshit, half of em joined MS-13.

You know so little about DACA, why are you even posting in this thread?

MS-13/GANG members can't qualify for DACA..kids who drop out of school can't either, kids with any juvenile or adult criminal record can't qualify either...

please inform yourself.

Dreamers are the cream of the crop of the kids of illegals for the most part....there are 20 to 30 million illegals living here so says the rumor....do you think they only have 800k kids here from all those millions of illegals...?

Kids who joined MS-13 and have not been prosecuted for any crimes are dreamers.

So says you. Where is your proof? And don't cite alt-right news media.

 

[jc456]

1. Very funny. So by serving as a nurse or interpreter in the military doesn't qualify as they served in the military?

2. Your link from WAPO and this kid Saini is just expressing concern that they might get deported. Not sure what you are trying to explain.

3. If you read the scope of this thread and other threads the threat of taking American jobs are concentrated on Hispanic people. Not by Asians, Middle Easterners or Europeans.

4. True. But again the target by most of these members here are the Hispanic people are not paying taxes.

They are not serving, they merely signed up to enter yet have been denied entry due to back ground check requirements that they can't pass.

Saini signed up, yet he has yet to get to basic training due to the fact he can't clear a back ground check as the requirement for entry to basic training, no EWI can, which is why the handful in the MAVNI program are visa overstays that were allowed DACA.

I know the scope of this thread, jobs are taken by illegals, period. Doesn't matter if they are Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern.

It is illegals in general that aren't paying enough in taxes, both at the local level through the state and federal levels as well. Legalizing them won't change their costs or future expenses.

not really....

they are not taking jobs....without the 20 million illegals living here there would be less jobs in the USA...less homes built to own or for rent, less cars sold and made, less food grown and harvested, less teachers needed, less medical facilities needed less clothes sold less of everything for the 20 million living here...

WHEN America was great, we were great because our population was GROWING leaps and bounds year after year, which made our economy grow almost by default...

Americans have stopped having children at the rate we once did....and the politicians ignored illegal immigration for decades because we needed more people to keep the GDP increasing imo.... they should have just raised the quotas for LEGAL immigrants from all countries or even favored countries...

so why didn't the GDP increase under obummer?

 

[jc456]

1. Very funny. So by serving as a nurse or interpreter in the military doesn't qualify as they served in the military?

2. Your link from WAPO and this kid Saini is just expressing concern that they might get deported. Not sure what you are trying to explain.

3. If you read the scope of this thread and other threads the threat of taking American jobs are concentrated on Hispanic people. Not by Asians, Middle Easterners or Europeans.

4. True. But again the target by most of these members here are the Hispanic people are not paying taxes.

They are not serving, they merely signed up to enter yet have been denied entry due to back ground check requirements that they can't pass.

Saini signed up, yet he has yet to get to basic training due to the fact he can't clear a back ground check as the requirement for entry to basic training, no EWI can, which is why the handful in the MAVNI program are visa overstays that were allowed DACA.

I know the scope of this thread, jobs are taken by illegals, period. Doesn't matter if they are Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern.

It is illegals in general that aren't paying enough in taxes, both at the local level through the state and federal levels as well. Legalizing them won't change their costs or future expenses.

not really....

they are not taking jobs....without the 20 million illegals living here there would be less jobs in the USA...less homes built to own or for rent, less cars sold and made, less food grown and harvested, less teachers needed, less medical facilities needed less clothes sold less of everything for the 20 million living here...

WHEN America was great, we were great because our population was GROWING leaps and bounds year after year, which made our economy grow almost by default...

Americans have stopped having children at the rate we once did....and the politicians ignored illegal immigration for decades because we needed more people to keep the GDP increasing imo.... they should have just raised the quotas for LEGAL immigrants from all countries or even favored countries...

Some idiot politicians are always stoking those flames b!tchin' about jobs being taken away! The fact is our economy would be hurt if we deported all of them! People forget they do pay taxes, probably don't get the benefits of it, and more than likely doing the jobs we won't do! People need to grow the FK up and stop scapegoating others to make themselves victims! Feeling better acting like arseholes doesn't last long! If they're too stupid to do better and get a decent job in this economy, who's fault is that really? Throwing out illegals isn't going to help them in the least! Thanks!

what a bunch of whooie . you'd say anything to get your fking way. go cry me a river and call me sir. you fking anti american fk.

 

[Fiero425]

1. Very funny. So by serving as a nurse or interpreter in the military doesn't qualify as they served in the military?

2. Your link from WAPO and this kid Saini is just expressing concern that they might get deported. Not sure what you are trying to explain.

3. If you read the scope of this thread and other threads the threat of taking American jobs are concentrated on Hispanic people. Not by Asians, Middle Easterners or Europeans.

4. True. But again the target by most of these members here are the Hispanic people are not paying taxes.

They are not serving, they merely signed up to enter yet have been denied entry due to back ground check requirements that they can't pass.

Saini signed up, yet he has yet to get to basic training due to the fact he can't clear a back ground check as the requirement for entry to basic training, no EWI can, which is why the handful in the MAVNI program are visa overstays that were allowed DACA.

I know the scope of this thread, jobs are taken by illegals, period. Doesn't matter if they are Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern.

It is illegals in general that aren't paying enough in taxes, both at the local level through the state and federal levels as well. Legalizing them won't change their costs or future expenses.

not really....

they are not taking jobs....without the 20 million illegals living here there would be less jobs in the USA...less homes built to own or for rent, less cars sold and made, less food grown and harvested, less teachers needed, less medical facilities needed less clothes sold less of everything for the 20 million living here...

WHEN America was great, we were great because our population was GROWING leaps and bounds year after year, which made our economy grow almost by default...

Americans have stopped having children at the rate we once did....and the politicians ignored illegal immigration for decades because we needed more people to keep the GDP increasing imo.... they should have just raised the quotas for LEGAL immigrants from all countries or even favored countries...

Some idiot politicians are always stoking those flames b!tchin' about jobs being taken away! The fact is our economy would be hurt if we deported all of them! People forget they do pay taxes, probably don't get the benefits of it, and more than likely doing the jobs we won't do! People need to grow the FK up and stop scapegoating others to make themselves victims! Feeling better acting like arseholes doesn't last long! If they're too stupid to do better and get a decent job in this economy, who's fault is that really? Throwing out illegals isn't going to help them in the least! Thanks!

what a bunch of whooie . you'd say anything to get your fking way. go cry me a river and call me sir. you fking anti american fk.

 

[jc456]

1. Very funny. So by serving as a nurse or interpreter in the military doesn't qualify as they served in the military?

2. Your link from WAPO and this kid Saini is just expressing concern that they might get deported. Not sure what you are trying to explain.

3. If you read the scope of this thread and other threads the threat of taking American jobs are concentrated on Hispanic people. Not by Asians, Middle Easterners or Europeans.

4. True. But again the target by most of these members here are the Hispanic people are not paying taxes.

They are not serving, they merely signed up to enter yet have been denied entry due to back ground check requirements that they can't pass.

Saini signed up, yet he has yet to get to basic training due to the fact he can't clear a back ground check as the requirement for entry to basic training, no EWI can, which is why the handful in the MAVNI program are visa overstays that were allowed DACA.

I know the scope of this thread, jobs are taken by illegals, period. Doesn't matter if they are Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern.

It is illegals in general that aren't paying enough in taxes, both at the local level through the state and federal levels as well. Legalizing them won't change their costs or future expenses.

not really....

they are not taking jobs....without the 20 million illegals living here there would be less jobs in the USA...less homes built to own or for rent, less cars sold and made, less food grown and harvested, less teachers needed, less medical facilities needed less clothes sold less of everything for the 20 million living here...

WHEN America was great, we were great because our population was GROWING leaps and bounds year after year, which made our economy grow almost by default...

Americans have stopped having children at the rate we once did....and the politicians ignored illegal immigration for decades because we needed more people to keep the GDP increasing imo.... they should have just raised the quotas for LEGAL immigrants from all countries or even favored countries...

Some idiot politicians are always stoking those flames b!tchin' about jobs being taken away! The fact is our economy would be hurt if we deported all of them! People forget they do pay taxes, probably don't get the benefits of it, and more than likely doing the jobs we won't do! People need to grow the FK up and stop scapegoating others to make themselves victims! Feeling better acting like arseholes doesn't last long! If they're too stupid to do better and get a decent job in this economy, who's fault is that really? Throwing out illegals isn't going to help them in the least! Thanks!

what a bunch of whooie . you'd say anything to get your fking way. go cry me a river and call me sir. you fking anti american fk.

funny how facts work

 

[charwin95]

1. Very funny. So by serving as a nurse or interpreter in the military doesn't qualify as they served in the military?

2. Your link from WAPO and this kid Saini is just expressing concern that they might get deported. Not sure what you are trying to explain.

3. If you read the scope of this thread and other threads the threat of taking American jobs are concentrated on Hispanic people. Not by Asians, Middle Easterners or Europeans.

4. True. But again the target by most of these members here are the Hispanic people are not paying taxes.

They are not serving, they merely signed up to enter yet have been denied entry due to back ground check requirements that they can't pass.

Saini signed up, yet he has yet to get to basic training due to the fact he can't clear a back ground check as the requirement for entry to basic training, no EWI can, which is why the handful in the MAVNI program are visa overstays that were allowed DACA.

I know the scope of this thread, jobs are taken by illegals, period. Doesn't matter if they are Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern.

It is illegals in general that aren't paying enough in taxes, both at the local level through the state and federal levels as well. Legalizing them won't change their costs or future expenses.

What denied entry? Some has gained US citizenship from serving.

True jobs taken by illegals not just Hispanic but again and again always the Mexicans. You don't hear the Asians which are guiltiest of the illegals.

They've been paying taxes. Maybe we should make them part of the system instead of hiding so they pay regularly.

Definitely legalizing them will solve lots of problems.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

What denied entry? Some has gained US citizenship from serving.

True jobs taken by illegals not just Hispanic but again and again always the Mexicans. You don't hear the Asians which are guiltiest of the illegals.

They've been paying taxes. Maybe we should make them part of the system instead of hiding so they pay regularly.

Definitely legalizing them will solve lots of problems.

Illegals have not gained citizenship by serving, as they can't legally join the military. The MAVNI program has accepted a handful of DACA recipients, those recipients actually entered the US legally and fell out of status, they were allowed to adjust their status because they qualified as "Dreamers". Legal immigrants/non-citizens can have their naturalization process sped up, but citizenship is not an automatic thing for being in the military, they must apply and they must continue and be discharged with an honorable discharge or their citizenship can be revoked.
Naturalization Through Military Service: Fact Sheet

Naturalization Through Military Service: Fact Sheet



Special provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) authorize U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to expedite the application and naturalization process for current members of the U.S. armed forces and veterans. Generally, qualifying military service includes service with one of the following: Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard and National Guard. In addition, spouses of members of the U.S. armed forces who are or will be deployed may be eligible for expedited naturalization. Other provisions of the law also allow certain spouses to complete the naturalization process abroad.

Qualifications
A member of the U.S. armed forces must meet the requirements and qualifications to become a citizen of the United States. He or she must demonstrate:

• Good moral character,
• Knowledge of the English language,
• Knowledge of U.S. government and history (civics), and
• Attachment to the principles of the Constitution of the United States by taking an Oath of Allegiance to the United States.

Qualified members of the U.S. armed forces may be exempt from other naturalization requirements, including residence and physical presence in the United States. These exceptions are listed in Sections 328 and 329 of the INA.

All aspects of the naturalization process, including applications, interviews and ceremonies are available overseas to members of the U.S. armed forces and certain “command-sponsored” spouses.

A person who obtains U.S. citizenship through his or her military service and separates from the military under “other than honorable conditions” before completing five years of honorable service may have his or her citizenship revoked.

Asians enter legally, they simply overstay their visas, very few enter without inspection. Hispanics are the overwhelming majority that enter illegally.

They have taxes with held from paychecks, that does not constitute paying taxes, as when they file their tax forms at the end of the year, more is paid out then was brought in via illegal workers. What use tax and property taxes they pay don't cover the expenses they use. Bringing them into the system will bankrupt the system even faster.

Legalizing them will not solve any economic problems, the only ones that will benefit would be them.

 

[charwin95]

What denied entry? Some has gained US citizenship from serving.

True jobs taken by illegals not just Hispanic but again and again always the Mexicans. You don't hear the Asians which are guiltiest of the illegals.

They've been paying taxes. Maybe we should make them part of the system instead of hiding so they pay regularly.

Definitely legalizing them will solve lots of problems.

Illegals have not gained citizenship by serving, as they can't legally join the military. The MAVNI program has accepted a handful of DACA recipients, those recipients actually entered the US legally and fell out of status, they were allowed to adjust their status because they qualified as "Dreamers". Legal immigrants/non-citizens can have their naturalization process sped up, but citizenship is not an automatic thing for being in the military, they must apply and they must continue and be discharged with an honorable discharge or their citizenship can be revoked.
Naturalization Through Military Service: Fact Sheet

Naturalization Through Military Service: Fact Sheet



Special provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) authorize U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to expedite the application and naturalization process for current members of the U.S. armed forces and veterans. Generally, qualifying military service includes service with one of the following: Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard and National Guard. In addition, spouses of members of the U.S. armed forces who are or will be deployed may be eligible for expedited naturalization. Other provisions of the law also allow certain spouses to complete the naturalization process abroad.

Qualifications
A member of the U.S. armed forces must meet the requirements and qualifications to become a citizen of the United States. He or she must demonstrate:

• Good moral character,
• Knowledge of the English language,
• Knowledge of U.S. government and history (civics), and
• Attachment to the principles of the Constitution of the United States by taking an Oath of Allegiance to the United States.

Qualified members of the U.S. armed forces may be exempt from other naturalization requirements, including residence and physical presence in the United States. These exceptions are listed in Sections 328 and 329 of the INA.

All aspects of the naturalization process, including applications, interviews and ceremonies are available overseas to members of the U.S. armed forces and certain “command-sponsored” spouses.

A person who obtains U.S. citizenship through his or her military service and separates from the military under “other than honorable conditions” before completing five years of honorable service may have his or her citizenship revoked.

Asians enter legally, they simply overstay their visas, very few enter without inspection. Hispanics are the overwhelming majority that enter illegally.

They have taxes with held from paychecks, that does not constitute paying taxes, as when they file their tax forms at the end of the year, more is paid out then was brought in via illegal workers. What use tax and property taxes they pay don't cover the expenses they use. Bringing them into the system will bankrupt the system even faster.

Legalizing them will not solve any economic problems, the only ones that will benefit would be them.

Asians enter legally like any other tourist but if they over stay is that mean they are still legal or illegals? You lost me there Liquid R. About 500 K a year? If they get sick and pregnant what do you think they used? What do you think they do when they hide? Do they keep hiding or get a job?

Illegals. No they do not file their tax returns because they do not have SS numbers. They do not get benefits after the deduction from their pay. As I previously posted several times. I know 2 farmer owners here in California and one in Arizona.

Definitely it will solve a lots of things because they start paying taxes, compete properly with others especially with the wages. They are no longer illegals.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

What denied entry? Some has gained US citizenship from serving.

True jobs taken by illegals not just Hispanic but again and again always the Mexicans. You don't hear the Asians which are guiltiest of the illegals.

They've been paying taxes. Maybe we should make them part of the system instead of hiding so they pay regularly.

Definitely legalizing them will solve lots of problems.

Illegals have not gained citizenship by serving, as they can't legally join the military. The MAVNI program has accepted a handful of DACA recipients, those recipients actually entered the US legally and fell out of status, they were allowed to adjust their status because they qualified as "Dreamers". Legal immigrants/non-citizens can have their naturalization process sped up, but citizenship is not an automatic thing for being in the military, they must apply and they must continue and be discharged with an honorable discharge or their citizenship can be revoked.
Naturalization Through Military Service: Fact Sheet

Naturalization Through Military Service: Fact Sheet



Special provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) authorize U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to expedite the application and naturalization process for current members of the U.S. armed forces and veterans. Generally, qualifying military service includes service with one of the following: Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard and National Guard. In addition, spouses of members of the U.S. armed forces who are or will be deployed may be eligible for expedited naturalization. Other provisions of the law also allow certain spouses to complete the naturalization process abroad.

Qualifications
A member of the U.S. armed forces must meet the requirements and qualifications to become a citizen of the United States. He or she must demonstrate:

• Good moral character,
• Knowledge of the English language,
• Knowledge of U.S. government and history (civics), and
• Attachment to the principles of the Constitution of the United States by taking an Oath of Allegiance to the United States.

Qualified members of the U.S. armed forces may be exempt from other naturalization requirements, including residence and physical presence in the United States. These exceptions are listed in Sections 328 and 329 of the INA.

All aspects of the naturalization process, including applications, interviews and ceremonies are available overseas to members of the U.S. armed forces and certain “command-sponsored” spouses.

A person who obtains U.S. citizenship through his or her military service and separates from the military under “other than honorable conditions” before completing five years of honorable service may have his or her citizenship revoked.

Asians enter legally, they simply overstay their visas, very few enter without inspection. Hispanics are the overwhelming majority that enter illegally.

They have taxes with held from paychecks, that does not constitute paying taxes, as when they file their tax forms at the end of the year, more is paid out then was brought in via illegal workers. What use tax and property taxes they pay don't cover the expenses they use. Bringing them into the system will bankrupt the system even faster.

Legalizing them will not solve any economic problems, the only ones that will benefit would be them.

Asians enter legally like any other tourist but if they over stay is that mean they are still legal or illegals? You lost me there Liquid R. About 500 K a year? If they get sick and pregnant what do you think they used? What do you think they do when they hide? Do they keep hiding or get a job?

Illegals. No they do not file their tax returns because they do not have SS numbers. They do not get benefits after the deduction from their pay. As I previously posted several times. I know 2 farmer owners here in California and one in Arizona.

Definitely it will solve a lots of things because they start paying taxes, compete properly with others especially with the wages. They are no longer illegals.

Many Asians enter legally and overstay their visas, some do enter illegally, very few.

Yes illegals do file their tax returns, they use an ITIN, yes they do get tax returns to include tax credits. illegals file tax returns - Google Search

Illegal Immigrants and Federal Income Taxes - Just Facts

Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers

One of the most reliable sources of data concerning the federal income taxes of illegal immigrants comes from an IRS program that gives them “Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers” or ITINs. These numbers are “issued regardless of an individual’s immigration status,” and they allow illegal immigrants and foreign investors to file tax returns without a Social Security number.

Obtaining an ITIN also allows illegal immigrants to claim the federal Child Tax Credit, which can provide them with a cash benefit of up to $1,000 per child per year. According to the latest IRS data, 72% of all tax returns filed with ITINs in 2010 claimed child tax credits to receive cash payments from the federal government.

About 6.1 Million Illegals Filed Taxes in US – Many Didn't Pay, Received Refunds

Federal government data shows that while roughly half of illegal immigrants file federal tax returns, the vast majority of them don’t pay any federal income taxes. Instead, they use these returns to claim refundable tax credits, which are a form of cash welfare. In other words, illegal immigrants mainly use the federal income tax code to collect money from U.S. citizens.

I don't care who you know, those farmers may have an opinion, but their opinions amount to jack squat.

What constitutes paying taxes? If they receive back more then they paid in how does that solve anything, making them legal will drain the coffers even more. The only solution is to get rid of them, send them back to their nations.