Isn't it time you yanks grew up regarding your gun death epidemic?

Gun related deaths per 100,000 population.

USA 12.21
UK 0.23

France 2.83
Canada 2.00
Sweden 1.6
Italy 1.31
Germany 1.17
Australia 0.9
Japan 0.6
Spain 0.31

With a population of 333546000 in the USA. That works out at 40,000 gun deaths per annum.

Coronavirus deaths in comparison work out at 98,000,- true that is more than twice as many, but gun deaths happen every year. Considering the lengths gone to, to stop Corona, isn't it time a total ban on guns was taken to bring the USA in line with what we consider to be a civilized society.

I agree, but we differ on the solution.

You think that somehow having gun control, or gun laws is going to do something.

We know it won't. A survey of murderers in prison, found that almost none of them got their weapons legally.

So if they are already getting weapons through the black market right now... how would passing gun laws stop it?

And since we already know that the people who obey gun laws, are the people who obey laws already.... all gun laws will do is disarm the public, in the face of an armed criminal element.


And why hasn't gun laws stopped gun crime in the UK?

Saying that the UK has a lower gun crime rate, is irrelevant.

Say you have two people that go on a diet. One guy is 100 lbs, and the other is 200 lbs.

After they go on a diet, the one guy is 150 lbs, and the other is 180 lbs.

Does the guy who gained 50 lbs, then claim his diet is working because he weights less than the 180 lbs guy?

No his diet was a failure. He gained 50 lbs. The other guy lost 20 lbs.

The UK had lower gun crime, before they banned guns. Gun crime is now UP, not down. It might be still lower than gun crime in the US, but it was lower than in the US, before your failed policies were put in place.

The real solution is the death penalty and law enforcement. We need to simply kill these criminals. Dead people don't murder. Put these guys to death, and murder will stop. Guarantee it.

And by the way, I mean NOW, not in 50 years.


Stanley Adams, in 1999, was at a social gathering, where they were partying and using drugs. Stanley left the "drug party" to get some money. And... he did. He returned the party with a roll of cash, and blood all over himself.

The next day, Esther Cook 43, and her 12 year old daughter were found dead. Stanley had lived with them in the past. His vehicle was seen at the house the day of the murder. The DNA test of blood at the scene, were that of Stanley.

This is clear, undeniable, un-contested proof that Stanley murdered a woman and her 12-year-old child. There is no question whatsoever.

It's now 2020, and his execution on April 16th, was given a reprieve. I actually agree the execution should not have happened April 16th of 2020, because it should have been carried out in 2002.

And you wonder why murder is happening in the US, when justice isn't being carried out for two full decades later? You think a dumb gun law is going to stop murder when justice is failed to be carried out for 20 years?

This is the solution. Kill those people, and put murderers in the ground. Then murder will stop, because people will see that they will not escape justice.

Death to criminals. That's the solution. Your dumb gun laws, have never fixed anything ever. Justice is the fix.
Killing them AFTER they've committed gun homicide is like locking the barn door after the horse is gone.

No it's not.


If this guy had been put to death, there would have been one less murder.



Suspect deemed too old to kill again, kills again.

As long as they breath, they can kill again. Even in prison, they can kill again in the prison.

Dead people kill no one.

Additionally, life for a life. I honestly believe there is only one worth while penalty for cold blooded murder... and that's the death penalty.

How many hundred of people have lost their lives, because of your view that "like locking the barn door after the horse is gone."?

Hundreds of people are dead, because your view.

Stop getting people killed.
 
Leftists want to disarm them NOT to prevent gun deaths but for OTHER sinister motives
That's silly.

Venezuela banned all firearms about 6 or 7 years ago and look where they are now.
Yeah, and then they intentionally tanked their economy by manipulating the world oil market. Makes all the sense in the world.

They knew the shit they were about to pull would likely end up with armed resistance.
Witch of course is the same reason dems want guns banned.
 
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If you truly wanted to stop gun violence you'd be going after handguns.
If you truly wanted to stop violence, you'd be encouraging the strengthening of family, morality, tradition, dignity, and respect among sovereign citizens.

Of course fixing the woes of the inner city ghettos would help but this thread is about gun violence.
And handguns clearly kill the vast majority when it comes killing.
Keep your hunting rifles, but no one in this country needs an AR. We are not at war.

My deer rifles are far more powerful than my A/R and I can hit at much greater distances.
Now what?
AR's are modeled directly on war weapons. Sure someone can shoot people with a deer rifle. But how many bullets can you load into that rifle at a time? Does it have that cool handle so you can spray bullets all cool-like as if you were Rambo? Magazine size DOES have to be part of it. There is absolutely no excuse for AR's with 30 round mags in civilian society.
its OK because the 2nd A was specifically about weapons of war,,,
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While you leftists are annoying when it comes to the 2nd I dont let it bother me......because we have all the guns.
No reply to my post 65? Guess I won the point on that one.
 
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If you truly wanted to stop gun violence you'd be going after handguns.
If you truly wanted to stop violence, you'd be encouraging the strengthening of family, morality, tradition, dignity, and respect among sovereign citizens.

Of course fixing the woes of the inner city ghettos would help but this thread is about gun violence.
And handguns clearly kill the vast majority when it comes killing.
Keep your hunting rifles, but no one in this country needs an AR. We are not at war.

My deer rifles are far more powerful than my A/R and I can hit at much greater distances.
Now what?
AR's are modeled directly on war weapons. Sure someone can shoot people with a deer rifle. But how many bullets can you load into that rifle at a time? Does it have that cool handle so you can spray bullets all cool-like as if you were Rambo? Magazine size DOES have to be part of it. There is absolutely no excuse for AR's with 30 round mags in civilian society.
its OK because the 2nd A was specifically about weapons of war,,,
View attachment 340837

While you leftists are annoying when it comes to the 2nd I dont let it bother me......because we have all the guns.
No reply to my post 65? Guess I won the point on that one.

Oh I replied,you just didnt like it.
 
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If you truly wanted to stop gun violence you'd be going after handguns.
If you truly wanted to stop violence, you'd be encouraging the strengthening of family, morality, tradition, dignity, and respect among sovereign citizens.

Of course fixing the woes of the inner city ghettos would help but this thread is about gun violence.
And handguns clearly kill the vast majority when it comes killing.
Keep your hunting rifles, but no one in this country needs an AR. We are not at war.

My deer rifles are far more powerful than my A/R and I can hit at much greater distances.
Now what?
AR's are modeled directly on war weapons. Sure someone can shoot people with a deer rifle. But how many bullets can you load into that rifle at a time? Does it have that cool handle so you can spray bullets all cool-like as if you were Rambo? Magazine size DOES have to be part of it. There is absolutely no excuse for AR's with 30 round mags in civilian society.
its OK because the 2nd A was specifically about weapons of war,,,
View attachment 340837

While you leftists are annoying when it comes to the 2nd I dont let it bother me......because we have all the guns.
No reply to my post 65? Guess I won the point on that one.
you got a reply that proved youre POV was that of the typical nazi
 
Leftists want to disarm them NOT to prevent gun deaths but for OTHER sinister motives
That's silly.

Venezuela banned all firearms about 6 or 7 years ago and look where they are now.
Yeah, and then they intentionally tanked their economy by manipulating the world oil market. Makes all the sense in the world.

They knew the shit they were about to pull would likely end up with armed resistance.
Witch of course is the same reason dems want guns banned.
Comparing Democrats to what Chavez did in Venezuela is just plain silly. Enough horseshit.
 
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If you truly wanted to stop gun violence you'd be going after handguns.
If you truly wanted to stop violence, you'd be encouraging the strengthening of family, morality, tradition, dignity, and respect among sovereign citizens.

Of course fixing the woes of the inner city ghettos would help but this thread is about gun violence.
And handguns clearly kill the vast majority when it comes killing.
Keep your hunting rifles, but no one in this country needs an AR. We are not at war.

My deer rifles are far more powerful than my A/R and I can hit at much greater distances.
Now what?
AR's are modeled directly on war weapons. Sure someone can shoot people with a deer rifle. But how many bullets can you load into that rifle at a time? Does it have that cool handle so you can spray bullets all cool-like as if you were Rambo? Magazine size DOES have to be part of it. There is absolutely no excuse for AR's with 30 round mags in civilian society.
its OK because the 2nd A was specifically about weapons of war,,,
View attachment 340837

While you leftists are annoying when it comes to the 2nd I dont let it bother me......because we have all the guns.
No reply to my post 65? Guess I won the point on that one.

Oh I replied,you just didnt like it.
No you didn't.
 
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If you truly wanted to stop gun violence you'd be going after handguns.
If you truly wanted to stop violence, you'd be encouraging the strengthening of family, morality, tradition, dignity, and respect among sovereign citizens.

Of course fixing the woes of the inner city ghettos would help but this thread is about gun violence.
And handguns clearly kill the vast majority when it comes killing.
Keep your hunting rifles, but no one in this country needs an AR. We are not at war.

My deer rifles are far more powerful than my A/R and I can hit at much greater distances.
Now what?
AR's are modeled directly on war weapons. Sure someone can shoot people with a deer rifle. But how many bullets can you load into that rifle at a time? Does it have that cool handle so you can spray bullets all cool-like as if you were Rambo? Magazine size DOES have to be part of it. There is absolutely no excuse for AR's with 30 round mags in civilian society.
its OK because the 2nd A was specifically about weapons of war,,,
View attachment 340837

While you leftists are annoying when it comes to the 2nd I dont let it bother me......because we have all the guns.
No reply to my post 65? Guess I won the point on that one.

Oh I replied,you just didnt like it.
No you didn't.
yes WE did,,,
 
Leftists want to disarm them NOT to prevent gun deaths but for OTHER sinister motives
That's silly.

Venezuela banned all firearms about 6 or 7 years ago and look where they are now.
Yeah, and then they intentionally tanked their economy by manipulating the world oil market. Makes all the sense in the world.

They knew the shit they were about to pull would likely end up with armed resistance.
Witch of course is the same reason dems want guns banned.
Comparing Democrats to what Chavez did in Venezuela is just plain silly. Enough horseshit.
its PERFECT comparison,,,
 
Gun related deaths per 100,000 population.

USA 12.21
UK 0.23

France 2.83
Canada 2.00
Sweden 1.6
Italy 1.31
Germany 1.17
Australia 0.9
Japan 0.6
Spain 0.31

With a population of 333546000 in the USA. That works out at 40,000 gun deaths per annum.

Coronavirus deaths in comparison work out at 98,000,- true that is more than twice as many, but gun deaths happen every year. Considering the lengths gone to, to stop Corona, isn't it time a total ban on guns was taken to bring the USA in line with what we consider to be a civilized society.

Oh look!

Another Tainted Tommy type, here to remind us Americans why it is that we kicked the British filth out of our country almost two and a half centuries ago; who prefers to disregard the outcome of two wars that we fought and won, specifically for the sovereign right not to allow the British to impose on us their idea of what constitutes a “civilized society”.

I invite the OP to go f••• himself, along with Tainted Tommy, Jackass WANKER Frogbrain, and any other Eurotrash who think they have any say in how we Americans run our country.
 
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If you truly wanted to stop gun violence you'd be going after handguns.
If you truly wanted to stop violence, you'd be encouraging the strengthening of family, morality, tradition, dignity, and respect among sovereign citizens.

Of course fixing the woes of the inner city ghettos would help but this thread is about gun violence.
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Guns are incapable of being violent by themselves.
 
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If you truly wanted to stop gun violence you'd be going after handguns.
If you truly wanted to stop violence, you'd be encouraging the strengthening of family, morality, tradition, dignity, and respect among sovereign citizens.

Of course fixing the woes of the inner city ghettos would help but this thread is about gun violence.
And handguns clearly kill the vast majority when it comes killing.
Keep your hunting rifles, but no one in this country needs an AR. We are not at war.
No one NEEDS to say stupid, hurtful things but we still have a First Amendment.
 
Keep your hunting rifles, but no one in this country needs an AR. We are not at war.

What is the difference between these two rifles?

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Sunni Man
There isn't a gun death epidemic you limey loon. .. :cuckoo:

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Lets stop with the Auschwitz lies << ???

Totally unrelated but Holocaust denial is a criminal offence in many European countries, as it should be in the UK & the USA.
How anyone can deny it in the face of the insurmountable evidence is beyond me!

Another reason why we kicked the British out of our country; they refused back then, and still do, as most degenerate Eurotrash nations, to recognize and uphold the basic human right to hold and appropriately express any opinion, no matter how disagreeable someone else may find that opinion; and hold it to be a legitimate power, if not a duty, of government to dictate what one is allowed to think, and what one is allowed to say.

Though I disagree with Sunni Man's denial of the Holocaust, as is often misattributed to Voltaire, I'll fight to the death to defend his right to believe it, and to express it, while degenerate Eurotrash like yourself would surely fight just as hard to force Sunni Man to believe what you want him to believe.
 
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Gun related deaths per 100,000 population.

USA 12.21
UK 0.23

France 2.83
Canada 2.00
Sweden 1.6
Italy 1.31
Germany 1.17
Australia 0.9
Japan 0.6
Spain 0.31

With a population of 333546000 in the USA. That works out at 40,000 gun deaths per annum.

Coronavirus deaths in comparison work out at 98,000,- true that is more than twice as many, but gun deaths happen every year. Considering the lengths gone to, to stop Corona, isn't it time a total ban on guns was taken to bring the USA in line with what we consider to be a civilized society.

How do you claim a country is "civilized" when their violent crime rate is double that of ours?

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.
By James Slack
UPDATED:18:14 EST, 2 July 2009

Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.

The figures comes on the day new Home Secretary Alan Johnson makes his first major speech on crime, promising to be tough on loutish behavior.

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The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 920 and South Africa 1,609.

Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: 'This is a damning indictment of this government's comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.

Read more: Britain the most violent country in Europe and even worse than South Africa and U.S.


^^^^ The above is from 2009 and it's crap, a link from 2009 should not even be allowed to be posted as it is NOT even RELEVANT on ANY level.

Sorry the below after # 1 is horsecrap, I can tell you we are certainly NOT # 2, look where the figures are coming from the EU Commission and THE UNITED NATIONS, total horsecrap and also the article is from 2009

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Trashing my nation with the above CRAP will NOT go unchallenged, so let's look at some actual figures and NOT the above SHIT. We have one of the LOWEST murder rates in the world - and yes we have approx 4.5 millions guns in private ownership I add.

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Leftists want to disarm them NOT to prevent gun deaths but for OTHER sinister motives
That's silly.

Venezuela banned all firearms about 6 or 7 years ago and look where they are now.
Yeah, and then they intentionally tanked their economy by manipulating the world oil market. Makes all the sense in the world.

They knew the shit they were about to pull would likely end up with armed resistance.
Witch of course is the same reason dems want guns banned.
Comparing Democrats to what Chavez did in Venezuela is just plain silly. Enough horseshit.

How can you know that when we still have our guns?
And with the way you freaks acted during the corona spamdemic only enforces my point.
You're all a bunch of wanna be dictators.
 
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If you truly wanted to stop gun violence you'd be going after handguns.
If you truly wanted to stop violence, you'd be encouraging the strengthening of family, morality, tradition, dignity, and respect among sovereign citizens.

Of course fixing the woes of the inner city ghettos would help but this thread is about gun violence.
And handguns clearly kill the vast majority when it comes killing.
Keep your hunting rifles, but no one in this country needs an AR. We are not at war.

My deer rifles are far more powerful than my A/R and I can hit at much greater distances.
Now what?
AR's are modeled directly on war weapons. Sure someone can shoot people with a deer rifle. But how many bullets can you load into that rifle at a time? Does it have that cool handle so you can spray bullets all cool-like as if you were Rambo? Magazine size DOES have to be part of it. There is absolutely no excuse for AR's with 30 round mags in civilian society.
its OK because the 2nd A was specifically about weapons of war,,,
View attachment 340837

While you leftists are annoying when it comes to the 2nd I dont let it bother me......because we have all the guns.
No reply to my post 65? Guess I won the point on that one.

Oh I replied,you just didnt like it.
No you didn't.

I went back to check....and yes I did.
 

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