Islam is not the problem. You are.

[MaryL]

Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

Amazing. Hitler was vegan CHRISTIAN, a JEW hater, for that matter. Stalin or Mao were primarily dictators too, atheism was a mere patina. They COULD just as well been theists or pagans or agnostic, besides, I have to wonder about the veracity of this concept of "atheist carnage" given the thousands of years Christians ( or ANY other theist group) have murdered non believers, heretics or any other innocent people , too. Islam itself is an intolerant group bent on domination, let's don't play games here. Islam means Submission, and it's main tenant is to either convert or eradicate non Muslims. Again, let's don't play games here. Islam is a threat to free thought, western culture and the human race. Forbid daesh get a nuke or biological weapons.

 

[LittleNipper]

Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

I know of no "Christian" group: Methodist, Episcopal, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Baptist, Pentecostal, Assembly of God, Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Quaker, Amish, Mennonite, Moravian, etc., that either contributes to terrorists or terrorizes themselves. Even historically, Roman Catholics didn't promote burning everyone and anyone at the stake. Go to a Moslem country and try to preach the Bible on a street corner and see how long you'd survive. At least Christian majorities are willing to ignore or try to have a logical interaction. I've never heard of Christians running amuck and burning ---- shooting everybody or anybody to promote Christianity.

I say we ship free Bibles to all Moslem countries and build churches in every Moslem town in the Mideast.

 

[LittleNipper]

Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

Amazing. Hitler was vegan CHRISTIAN, a JEW hater, for that matter. Stalin or Mao were primarily dictators too, atheism was a mere patina. They COULD just as well been theists or pagans or agnostic, besides, I have to wonder about the veracity of this concept of "atheist carnage" given the thousands of years Christians ( or ANY other theist group) have murdered non believers, heretics or any other innocent people , too. Islam itself is an intolerant group bent on domination, let's don't play games here. Islam means Submission, and it's main tenant is to either convert or eradicate non Muslims. Again, let's don't play games here. Islam is a threat to free thought, western culture and the human race. Forbid daesh get a nuke or biological weapons.

Hitler was a Jew according to his very own criteria (grandparent). The Catholic church tried people it presumed were Catholics teaching heresy. At the same time, they didn't simply blow up anybody indiscriminately.

 

[LittleNipper]

Do you really think if Islam condoned and taught violence, that with all the Muslims in the US we wouldn't have it infinitely worse?

I believe that as long as Moslems are in the majority, other religions are fairly safe. But where Moslems are in the majority, oppression is absolute. No proselytizing, no open symbolism, no open worship, no converting.

 

[MaryL]

Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

Amazing. Hitler was vegan CHRISTIAN, a JEW hater, for that matter. Stalin or Mao were primarily dictators too, atheism was a mere patina. They COULD just as well been theists or pagans or agnostic, besides, I have to wonder about the veracity of this concept of "atheist carnage" given the thousands of years Christians ( or ANY other theist group) have murdered non believers, heretics or any other innocent people , too. Islam itself is an intolerant group bent on domination, let's don't play games here. Islam means Submission, and it's main tenant is to either convert or eradicate non Muslims. Again, let's don't play games here. Islam is a threat to free thought, western culture and the human race. Forbid daesh get a nuke or biological weapons.

Hitler was a Jew according to his very own criteria (grandparent). The Catholic church tried people it presumed were Catholics teaching heresy. At the same time, they didn't simply blow up anybody indiscriminately.

Well...it's questio

Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

Amazing. Hitler was vegan CHRISTIAN, a JEW hater, for that matter. Stalin or Mao were primarily dictators too, atheism was a mere patina. They COULD just as well been theists or pagans or agnostic, besides, I have to wonder about the veracity of this concept of "atheist carnage" given the thousands of years Christians ( or ANY other theist group) have murdered non believers, heretics or any other innocent people , too. Islam itself is an intolerant group bent on domination, let's don't play games here. Islam means Submission, and it's main tenant is to either convert or eradicate non Muslims. Again, let's don't play games here. Islam is a threat to free thought, western culture and the human race. Forbid daesh get a nuke or biological weapons.

Hitler was a Jew according to his very own criteria (grandparent). The Catholic church tried people it presumed were Catholics teaching heresy. At the same time, they didn't simply blow up anybody indiscriminately.

Hitler may have been part Jewish, but at least Nazis weren't such total nihilists that accepted self destruction as a tactic against ALL , period. Besides, why are we practically tripping over ourselves NOT to offend the "nice" Muslims, when we never cared about offending the nice Nazis or nice Japanese Imperialist or Nice Italian fascist? I don't get it.

 

[irosie91]

Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

Amazing. Hitler was vegan CHRISTIAN, a JEW hater, for that matter. Stalin or Mao were primarily dictators too, atheism was a mere patina. They COULD just as well been theists or pagans or agnostic, besides, I have to wonder about the veracity of this concept of "atheist carnage" given the thousands of years Christians ( or ANY other theist group) have murdered non believers, heretics or any other innocent people , too. Islam itself is an intolerant group bent on domination, let's don't play games here. Islam means Submission, and it's main tenant is to either convert or eradicate non Muslims. Again, let's don't play games here. Islam is a threat to free thought, western culture and the human race. Forbid daesh get a nuke or biological weapons.

Hitler was a Jew according to his very own criteria (grandparent). The Catholic church tried people it presumed were Catholics teaching heresy. At the same time, they didn't simply blow up anybody indiscriminately.

Well...it's questio

Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

Amazing. Hitler was vegan CHRISTIAN, a JEW hater, for that matter. Stalin or Mao were primarily dictators too, atheism was a mere patina. They COULD just as well been theists or pagans or agnostic, besides, I have to wonder about the veracity of this concept of "atheist carnage" given the thousands of years Christians ( or ANY other theist group) have murdered non believers, heretics or any other innocent people , too. Islam itself is an intolerant group bent on domination, let's don't play games here. Islam means Submission, and it's main tenant is to either convert or eradicate non Muslims. Again, let's don't play games here. Islam is a threat to free thought, western culture and the human race. Forbid daesh get a nuke or biological weapons.

Hitler was a Jew according to his very own criteria (grandparent). The Catholic church tried people it presumed were Catholics teaching heresy. At the same time, they didn't simply blow up anybody indiscriminately.

Hitler may have been part Jewish, but at least Nazis weren't such total nihilists that accepted self destruction as a tactic against ALL , period. Besides, why are we practically tripping over ourselves NOT to offend the "nice" Muslims, when we never cared about all the nice Nazis or nice Japanese Imperialist or Nice Italian fascist? I don't get it.

Your essay if full of outright falsehoods and illogic. Too many to discuss in short------the first "hitler had a jewish grandparent" no he did not------who told you that one-----the inebriated polish bitch who baby sat you ? The catholic church "TRIED PEOPLE" nope------they granted TRIALS only to people who claimed
to be faithful catholics-------non catholics were simply totured to death, INDISCRIMINATELY (homosexuals too) You got your information from the
catechism whore-----even infants. In fact------we did indiscriminately murder
Japanese or germans after the war. Indiscriminate murder is a ---holy roman thing, Nazi thing and Muslim thing

 

[LittleNipper]

Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

Amazing. Hitler was vegan CHRISTIAN, a JEW hater, for that matter. Stalin or Mao were primarily dictators too, atheism was a mere patina. They COULD just as well been theists or pagans or agnostic, besides, I have to wonder about the veracity of this concept of "atheist carnage" given the thousands of years Christians ( or ANY other theist group) have murdered non believers, heretics or any other innocent people , too. Islam itself is an intolerant group bent on domination, let's don't play games here. Islam means Submission, and it's main tenant is to either convert or eradicate non Muslims. Again, let's don't play games here. Islam is a threat to free thought, western culture and the human race. Forbid daesh get a nuke or biological weapons.

Hitler was a Jew according to his very own criteria (grandparent). The Catholic church tried people it presumed were Catholics teaching heresy. At the same time, they didn't simply blow up anybody indiscriminately.

Well...it's questio

Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

Amazing. Hitler was vegan CHRISTIAN, a JEW hater, for that matter. Stalin or Mao were primarily dictators too, atheism was a mere patina. They COULD just as well been theists or pagans or agnostic, besides, I have to wonder about the veracity of this concept of "atheist carnage" given the thousands of years Christians ( or ANY other theist group) have murdered non believers, heretics or any other innocent people , too. Islam itself is an intolerant group bent on domination, let's don't play games here. Islam means Submission, and it's main tenant is to either convert or eradicate non Muslims. Again, let's don't play games here. Islam is a threat to free thought, western culture and the human race. Forbid daesh get a nuke or biological weapons.

Hitler was a Jew according to his very own criteria (grandparent). The Catholic church tried people it presumed were Catholics teaching heresy. At the same time, they didn't simply blow up anybody indiscriminately.

Hitler may have been part Jewish, but at least Nazis weren't such total nihilists that accepted self destruction as a tactic against ALL , period. Besides, why are we practically tripping over ourselves NOT to offend the "nice" Muslims, when we never cared about all the nice Nazis or nice Japanese Imperialist or Nice Italian fascist? I don't get it.

I believe that Islam is inferior to true Christian thought. And I believe that is why Moslems expel and murder those espousing Christianity. I also see why Christian thought expelled from education makes for inferior education and a rise of "Political Correctness." Political Correctness essentially promotes an atmosphere of do not question, exclude, promote, tell, display, require, include anything that might be considered offensive to anyone else.

Once this happens, the next step is to take over and declare what is correct, legal, patriotic, important, and fair to the masses.

 

[MaryL]

Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

Amazing. Hitler was vegan CHRISTIAN, a JEW hater, for that matter. Stalin or Mao were primarily dictators too, atheism was a mere patina. They COULD just as well been theists or pagans or agnostic, besides, I have to wonder about the veracity of this concept of "atheist carnage" given the thousands of years Christians ( or ANY other theist group) have murdered non believers, heretics or any other innocent people , too. Islam itself is an intolerant group bent on domination, let's don't play games here. Islam means Submission, and it's main tenant is to either convert or eradicate non Muslims. Again, let's don't play games here. Islam is a threat to free thought, western culture and the human race. Forbid daesh get a nuke or biological weapons.

Hitler was a Jew according to his very own criteria (grandparent). The Catholic church tried people it presumed were Catholics teaching heresy. At the same time, they didn't simply blow up anybody indiscriminately.

Well...it's questio

Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

Amazing. Hitler was vegan CHRISTIAN, a JEW hater, for that matter. Stalin or Mao were primarily dictators too, atheism was a mere patina. They COULD just as well been theists or pagans or agnostic, besides, I have to wonder about the veracity of this concept of "atheist carnage" given the thousands of years Christians ( or ANY other theist group) have murdered non believers, heretics or any other innocent people , too. Islam itself is an intolerant group bent on domination, let's don't play games here. Islam means Submission, and it's main tenant is to either convert or eradicate non Muslims. Again, let's don't play games here. Islam is a threat to free thought, western culture and the human race. Forbid daesh get a nuke or biological weapons.

Hitler was a Jew according to his very own criteria (grandparent). The Catholic church tried people it presumed were Catholics teaching heresy. At the same time, they didn't simply blow up anybody indiscriminately.

Hitler may have been part Jewish, but at least Nazis weren't such total nihilists that accepted self destruction as a tactic against ALL , period. Besides, why are we practically tripping over ourselves NOT to offend the "nice" Muslims, when we never cared about all the nice Nazis or nice Japanese Imperialist or Nice Italian fascist? I don't get it.

Your essay if full of outright falsehoods and illogic. Too many to discuss in short------the first "hitler had a jewish grandparent" no he did not------who told you that one-----the inebriated polish bitch who baby sat you ? The catholic church "TRIED PEOPLE" nope------they granted TRIALS only to people who claimed
to be faithful catholics-------non catholics were simply totured to death, INDISCRIMINATELY (homosexuals too) You got your information from the
catechism whore-----even infants. In fact------we did indiscriminately murder
Japanese or germans after the war. Indiscriminate murder is a ---holy roman thing, Nazi thing and Muslim thing

Feel better now? We indiscriminately murdered Japanese or Germans after the war? Who is this "WE" you are blathering about? Anyway, Paris last Friday the 13th. There is nothing these nihilist pirates won't stoop to to further their ends. You apologist morons can't sweep that under the rug, because they will kill you too unless you are a fellow Muslim. Christians, Jews or Atheist have the same fate under Islam, Are you a muslim? You want this Islamic Hoodoo to dominate humanity?

 

[LittleNipper]

Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

Amazing. Hitler was vegan CHRISTIAN, a JEW hater, for that matter. Stalin or Mao were primarily dictators too, atheism was a mere patina. They COULD just as well been theists or pagans or agnostic, besides, I have to wonder about the veracity of this concept of "atheist carnage" given the thousands of years Christians ( or ANY other theist group) have murdered non believers, heretics or any other innocent people , too. Islam itself is an intolerant group bent on domination, let's don't play games here. Islam means Submission, and it's main tenant is to either convert or eradicate non Muslims. Again, let's don't play games here. Islam is a threat to free thought, western culture and the human race. Forbid daesh get a nuke or biological weapons.

Hitler was a Jew according to his very own criteria (grandparent). The Catholic church tried people it presumed were Catholics teaching heresy. At the same time, they didn't simply blow up anybody indiscriminately.

Well...it's questio

Don't forget atheists!

Communist atheists in only 80 years killed about 94 million! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by atheist imperialists like Jules Ferry or atheist fascists like Mussolini, who was in part inspired by another blood-thirsty atheist - Nietzsche. And don't forget the Armenian genocide, committed by secular fanatics: the Young Turks.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

Amazing. Hitler was vegan CHRISTIAN, a JEW hater, for that matter. Stalin or Mao were primarily dictators too, atheism was a mere patina. They COULD just as well been theists or pagans or agnostic, besides, I have to wonder about the veracity of this concept of "atheist carnage" given the thousands of years Christians ( or ANY other theist group) have murdered non believers, heretics or any other innocent people , too. Islam itself is an intolerant group bent on domination, let's don't play games here. Islam means Submission, and it's main tenant is to either convert or eradicate non Muslims. Again, let's don't play games here. Islam is a threat to free thought, western culture and the human race. Forbid daesh get a nuke or biological weapons.

Hitler was a Jew according to his very own criteria (grandparent). The Catholic church tried people it presumed were Catholics teaching heresy. At the same time, they didn't simply blow up anybody indiscriminately.

Hitler may have been part Jewish, but at least Nazis weren't such total nihilists that accepted self destruction as a tactic against ALL , period. Besides, why are we practically tripping over ourselves NOT to offend the "nice" Muslims, when we never cared about all the nice Nazis or nice Japanese Imperialist or Nice Italian fascist? I don't get it.

Your essay if full of outright falsehoods and illogic. Too many to discuss in short------the first "hitler had a jewish grandparent" no he did not------who told you that one-----the inebriated polish bitch who baby sat you ? The catholic church "TRIED PEOPLE" nope------they granted TRIALS only to people who claimed
to be faithful catholics-------non catholics were simply totured to death, INDISCRIMINATELY (homosexuals too) You got your information from the
catechism whore-----even infants. In fact------we did indiscriminately murder
Japanese or germans after the war. Indiscriminate murder is a ---holy roman thing, Nazi thing and Muslim thing

Sorry, but I'm a Bible believing Born Again Christian. I guess you might call me a Protestant. I leave the rest to your discression. But Hitler was certainly not German. He was Austrian --- and not blond
Study Suggests Adolf Hitler Had Jewish and African Ancestors
August 26, 2010 By Jennie Cohen

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Was Adolf Hitler of Jewish and African descent? A recent DNA study by Belgian researchers suggests that the Fuhrer may have been more closely related to ethnic groups he considered “subhuman” than to his “Aryan” compatriots.

In the decades since Adolf Hitler’s death, the Nazi leader’s ancestry has been a subject of rampant speculation and intense controversy. Some have suggested that his father, Alois, born to an unwed woman named Maria Schickelgruber, was the illegitimate child of Leopold Frankenberger, a young Jewish man whose family employed her as a maid. (She subsequently married Johann Georg Hiedler–later spelled “Hitler”–whose surname her son adopted.) Others have claimed that Alois’ biological father was also the grandfather of Hitler’s mother, Klara Pözl, making Adolf the product of an incestuous marriage.

To unravel the mystery of the Fuhrer’s roots, the Belgian journalist Jean-Paul Mulders teamed up with Marc Vermeeren, a historian who has written extensively about Hitler and his ancestors. The duo collected saliva samples from 39 of the infamous dictator’s living relatives, including a great-nephew, Alexander Stuart-Houston, who lives in New York, and an Austrian cousin identified only as “Norbert H.” Tests were then conducted to reveal the samples’ principal haplogroups, which are sets of chromosomes that geneticists use to define specific populations.

Writing in the Flemish-language magazine Knack, Mulders reported that the relatives’ most dominant haplogroup, known as E1b1b, is rare in Western Europeans but common among North Africans, and particularly the Berber tribes of Morocco, Algeria, Libya and Tunisia. It is also one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population, present in 18 to 20 percent of Ashkenazi Jews and 8.6 to 30 percent of Sephardic Jews. In other words, Hitler’s family tree may have included Jewish and African ancestors.

The tragic irony of the discovery, of course, is that Hitler’s Nazi regime systematically wiped out an estimated two-thirds of Europe’s Jewish population between 1933 and 1945. People of African descent were also considered enemies of the Aryans, whose supposed racial purity and superiority were central to the “Mein Kampf” author’s lethal rhetoric. As Mulders put it in the Knack article, “One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised.”

As part of its continuing quest to pin down the Fuhrer’s heritage, Knack hopes to conduct DNA tests on a jawbone fragment and piece of bloodstained cloth retrieved from the Berlin bunker where Hitler allegedly committed suicide. The Russian government has held these artifacts in its archives since 1948 and continues to vouch for their authenticity despite a contradictory 2009 study by American scientists.

Since the publication of the Knack article on August 18, 2010, academics have been quick to point out that this does not necessarily mean the man who inspired the Holocaust was either Jewish, African or a combination of the two. The E1b1b haplogroup runs in other ethnic groups, for instance, and DNA analysis remains an inexact science. But one thing about this study’s results is certain, as Ronny Decorte, a geneticist interviewed by Knack, remarked: “Hitler would not have been pleased.”

 

[MaryL]

Islam IS the problem, and so is their brand of group think, conformist, drink the kool-aid absolutism. Stop hiding your head in the sand. I am not seeing any Christian , Jewish, Buddhist, Taoist suicide cells infiltrating countries and perpetrating mass murder. Islam is the 800 pound Gorilla in the room , stop pretending that they are "NORMAL". We know were Mecca and Medina is, about time they felt the pain.

 

[Sunni Man]

Islam and muslims are just misunderstood. .......

 

[MaryL]

Islam is the problem. I wouldn't feel much pain if during the hajj, the Kabba chocked full of pilgrims, suddenly exploded because a few rouge missiles just suddenly appeared. Opps! 9/11 in reverse. How would these muslim weasels like it?

 

[Sunni Man]

Islam is the only hope for mankind and the world. ......

 

[MaryL]

What comes around goes around. Why is NPR and liberals so worried about anti muslim backlash? Given that Islam would not let NPR or liberalism exist to begin with? Why ? Do they understand the conformist absolutism that is Islam? It's like defending cancer by healthy people because it's diversity. Defending that that would destroy you. Give me a freekin break.

 

[HenryBHough]

Paid threads really should be captioned with the name of the sponsor.

 

[MaryL]

What if, say a rogue cell of Russian, French, British or American drones packed full of nasty nerve agents dumped on Mecca during the Hajj? We can't control everyone in the west. Damn, that would be so terrible.

 

[Anonymous1977]

Islam no more condones or permits the murder of innocents than Christianity and Judaism does. Muslims aren't terrorists. Christians aren't terrorists. Jews aren't terrorists. Terrorists are terrorists and belong to no religion. And instead of seeing the truth of this, the people that are the actual problem just say 'ya, all Muslims are the problem.' Might as well just go hang out at a bar and talk amongst yourselves. Why you're on a computer with the whole planet's knowledge available to consult is mind-boggling.

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”"
Top Ten Ways Islamic Law forbids Terrorism

Don't want to stir up any trouble here Delta but you may be off on some things. True a person can claim to be a Muslim and be an imposter but I heard a Muslim preacher say that "scandalizing God's messenger is asking for death, and if Muslims kill someone for scandalizing God's messenger, what about it?" (not an exact quote but words to that affect.)

(EDIT - This preacher claims to be a Muslim, but it is possible that most Orthodox Muslims reject him as not really Muslim. But Islam is his claim.)




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[Dajjal]

Islam is the only hope for mankind and the world. ......

The world would have been far better off if Islam had never been created. The middle east would have probably accepted Christianity and there would have been no holy wars. It is my belief that Muhammad lied about getting a message from God, and his soul has therefore created a terrible karmic debt he can never pay. He will have to suffer through countless incarnations, and the trouble he caused is still going on today. Even Hitler did not do as much harm to the world as Muhammad.

The spirit guides I have listened too say that we have to account for every action and every reaction from our actions through countless lives, until all karma is paid. So the soul of Muhammad has a greater burden of bad karma than pretty well any one else that has ever lived.

 

[Roudy]

Islam is the cancer of modern civilization. It should be banned in all free, democratic societies that value human rights, freedom, and equality.

 

[Shusha]

...

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” ...

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. ...

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. ...

Thus...

1. Judicial (Sharia) killing and maiming is permissible.
2. Apostasy is not permissible and is punishable by death.
3. Defensive wars are permissible.

So, by this measure, the difference between a radical Muslim and a non-radical Muslim is not the sanctity of human life, but in defining what is permissible and what is not permissible before taking a human life. I would argue that groups such as IS believe they are acting fully within the permissibility of Islam. They only kill when it is judicially correct or in a defensive war.

Which renders this entire list pointless. If Islam is to rise above where it seems to be, it needs to go further than this. This is simply not enough. Those who would defend Islam need to develop better criteria than just this. They need to refine it further than this.

They need to be able to explain to non-Muslims why adulteress' should not actually be stoned, rather than just saying its fine if the government of KSA stones adulteress' because they follow Sharia and its a legit judicial killing, but its wrong if IS stones adulteress' because that is extra-judicial.

They need to be able to explain to non-Muslims what constitutes a defensive war, in clear concrete terms.

They need to be able to dismiss concepts like jizya, and the slavery of heathens.