Is Trump FINALLY Learning Appeasement NEVER Works?

[westwall]

,....what the hell does a handfull of RPGs in 2019 have to do with assisting Ukraine's defense since full scale Russian invasion?

Do you even know what the **** the conversation is about?

Go take your meds and get some sleep.

Try again, bozo. He sent them Javelins, not RPG's. You're not even on the same continent.

Like I said, you ARE, an ignorant clod.

 

[Correll]

Name ONE, just one thing Trump has done for Ukraine aside from shitting on their President and stalling congressionaly aproved, Biden signed, millitary aid.

ONE.

Whoa. Give me some warning before you move the goalposts that fast.


I ask again, it's been half a year in office, with no "abandoned", and not a peep from MAGA about this.

See, during the campaign, when Trump talked about pursuing PEACE, you lefties spun that to be ABANDONMENT.


Now that Trump is President, you are trying to make an issue out of him not keeping his promise of ABANDONMENT.


Yet, that was always just shit talk from your side, nothing Trump nor maga ever said or wanted.


You are buidling shit talk on top of shit talk and that is your world view.

 

[Correll]

You sound retarded.

No, I don't.

The shit talk you leftards are pushing, is so dumb that calling it retarded, really isn't enough.

But, it is the best I can come up with, to put the negative connotations that your shit talk deserves.

But enough of that.

In the real world Trump and MAGA looked at the... horrific meatgrinder that the war in Ukraine has become and correctly determined that neither side has a reasonable path to their goals, so, it was time to make PEACE.


You lefties, for various reasons, choose to support war instead, and instead of being honest about that, you lied and claimed that Trump and MAGA wanted to do APPEASMENT.


That Putin has failed to come to the reasonable conclusion that we have, about the war and it willing to keep wasting his men on a failed war plan,


is not a failure of Trump or MAGA.


Trump discussing Putin's failure, is... fine. It's normal. It's normal for reasonable people to discuss unreasonable people who are getting their people killed by the tens or hundreds of thousands.


That you want to try to gin that up to a partisan gotcha, is just... sad.


The funny part is that there are real policy issues that you could reasonable disagree with Trump on and make reasonable... complaints about some of his policies.


Instead you choose to shit talk...

 

[gipper]

He gave them missiles instead of the blankets that obammy and bribem gave them you blithering jackass.

Good gosh but you're ignorant.

Trump doing exactly as Biden did, but you still support him. It’s the way of the uniparty. Dumb ******* dupes.

 

[gipper]

No, I don't.

The shit talk you leftards are pushing, is so dumb that calling it retarded, really isn't enough.

But, it is the best I can come up with, to put the negative connotations that your shit talk deserves.

But enough of that.

In the real world Trump and MAGA looked at the... horrific meatgrinder that the war in Ukraine has become and correctly determined that neither side has a reasonable path to their goals, so, it was time to make PEACE.


You lefties, for various reasons, choose to support war instead, and instead of being honest about that, you lied and claimed that Trump and MAGA wanted to do APPEASMENT.


That Putin has failed to come to the reasonable conclusion that we have, about the war and it willing to keep wasting his men on a failed war plan,


is not a failure of Trump or MAGA.


Trump discussing Putin's failure, is... fine. It's normal. It's normal for reasonable people to discuss unreasonable people who are getting their people killed by the tens or hundreds of thousands.


That you want to try to gin that up to a partisan gotcha, is just... sad.


The funny part is that there are real policy issues that you could reasonable disagree with Trump on and make reasonable... complaints about some of his policies.


Instead you choose to shit talk...

Hahahahahahahaha. Yet your orange doofus continues Biden’s policies of prolonging the war. Dupes! So many dupes.

 

[AntonToo]

Try again, bozo. He sent them Javelins, not RPG's. You're not even on the same continent.

For ***** sakes, it's a single use shoulder launched anti-tank missile. The only difference to RPG is that it's guided and more effective at destroying that one tank.

We are talking about $39 million Ukraine spent on those compared to 100 BILLION aid that was passed by Congress and signed by Biden once the full-scale Russian invasion started.

What do those Javelins from 2019 have to do with serious millitary aid to Ukraine today - NOTHING.

You Trumptard fools are just grasping for straws because you know Trump did nothing but hurt Urkaine and assist Putin since he got into office again.

 

[westwall]

For ***** sakes, it's a single use shoulder launched anti-tank missile. The only difference to RPG is that it's guided and more effective at destroying that one tank.

We are talking about $39 million Ukraine spent on thsoe amongst 100 BILLION aid that was passed by Congress and signed by Biden once the war started.

What do those Javelins from 2019 have to do with serious millitary aid to Ukraine today - NOTHING.

You Trumptard fools are just grasping for straws because you know Trump did nothing but hurt Urkaine since he got into

For ***** sakes, it's a single use shoulder launched anti-tank missile. The only difference to RPG is that it's guided and more effective at destroying that one tank.

We are talking about $39 million Ukraine spent on those compared to 100 BILLION aid that was passed by Congress and signed by Biden once the full-scale Russian invasion started.

What do those Javelins from 2019 have to do with serious millitary aid to Ukraine today - NOTHING.

You Trumptard fools are just grasping for straws because you know Trump did nothing but hurt Urkaine and assist Putin since he got into office again.

You blithering imbecile, an RPG 7 has a max effective range of 400m. And a maximum range of 920m. Javelin's max effective is 2500m, and max range is 4000m

Which is bigger?

DURRRRRR

 

[AntonToo]

You blithering imbecile, an RPG 7 has a max effective range of 400m. And a maximum range of 920m. Javelin's max effective is 2500m, and max range is 4000m

Which is bigger?

DURRRRRR

I see there is no curing your type of stupid.

A handful of spent-in-a-week javelins form 2019 have no relvancy to millitary aid to Ukraine in 2025.

No relavancy to what Trump has done for Ukraine since getting into office again.

 

[westwall]

I see there is no curing your type of stupid.

A handful of spent-in-a-week javelins form 2019 have no relvancy to millitary aid to Ukraine in 2025.

No relavancy to what Trump has done for Ukraine since getting into office again.

Other than they knock out Russian tanks at long range.

DURRRRRR

 

[Nostra]

Donald Trump has always admired strongmen, even communist dictators. He has had a particular fawning admiration of Stalinist dictator Vladimir Putin for decades, going back to the 90s.

Trump on Fox News:

O'REILLY: Putin's a killer.

TRUMP: There are a lot of killers. We have a lot of killers. Well, you think our country is so innocent?

Does it get more supplicating sycophancy to Putin than that?!?

So much for America First! That's not how a patriot talks about America.

Imagine how the Fox News viewers would have reacted if Obama ever said such a thing! Imagine how YOU would have reacted!



Some time ago, Trump wanted to build a Trump Tower in Moscow and offered the penthouse, valued at $50 million, to Putin. Despite working on business dealings in Russia, Trump denied it during the 2016 campaign. When he was finally outed as lying, he claimed everyone knew about it! And his followers did an Orwellian acceptance of these lies.

These, and other examples, explain Trump's weakness with Putin. This explains why Putin has no fear of Trump and has intensely ramped up his drone and missile attacks on Ukrainian civilians since Trump was sworn in. And all Trump can do is whine, "Vladimir, STOP!" after he had tried to appease Putin in Saudi Arabia and thought he had negotiated a cease fire with the mass murdering war criminal.

Trump came back from Saudi Arabia and immediately began parroting Putin's lies and propaganda. Team Trump began calling Zelensky a dictator (talk about irony!) and summoned him to the White House for the most disgraceful shaming of an ally in the history of America.

Trump having shown whose side he was on, the drones and missiles began falling heavier and harder on Ukraine.

Still unable to face the reality his best friend was ***** slapping him, Trump announced he was going to provide Ukraine DEFENSIVE weapons. Trump STILL won't provide Ukraine the means to get Putin out of Ukraine and get their country back. Ukraine needs OFFENSIVE weapons.

The appeasers of the 70s and 80s made the same noises MAGAs make. They whimpered about World War III. They took Russia's side over our allies'. They curled up in the fetal position and sucked their thumbs.

Ronald Reagan ignored the weak-minded and the appeasers. He stood up to KGB Putin's superiors. He upped the pressure on them, and they finally collapsed in ruin.

We need another Reagan, not a thumb-sucking, dictator-appeasing, loser.

Trump needs to wake up to the realities of the world.

US to resume delivery of 'defensive weapons' to Ukraine, says Trump​

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2013?

Your desperation is out of control, Simp.

 

[Crepitus]

Donald Trump has always admired strongmen, even communist dictators. He has had a particular fawning admiration of Stalinist dictator Vladimir Putin for decades, going back to the 90s.

Trump on Fox News:

O'REILLY: Putin's a killer.

TRUMP: There are a lot of killers. We have a lot of killers. Well, you think our country is so innocent?

Does it get more supplicating sycophancy to Putin than that?!?

So much for America First! That's not how a patriot talks about America.

Imagine how the Fox News viewers would have reacted if Obama ever said such a thing! Imagine how YOU would have reacted!



Some time ago, Trump wanted to build a Trump Tower in Moscow and offered the penthouse, valued at $50 million, to Putin. Despite working on business dealings in Russia, Trump denied it during the 2016 campaign. When he was finally outed as lying, he claimed everyone knew about it! And his followers did an Orwellian acceptance of these lies.

These, and other examples, explain Trump's weakness with Putin. This explains why Putin has no fear of Trump and has intensely ramped up his drone and missile attacks on Ukrainian civilians since Trump was sworn in. And all Trump can do is whine, "Vladimir, STOP!" after he had tried to appease Putin in Saudi Arabia and thought he had negotiated a cease fire with the mass murdering war criminal.

Trump came back from Saudi Arabia and immediately began parroting Putin's lies and propaganda. Team Trump began calling Zelensky a dictator (talk about irony!) and summoned him to the White House for the most disgraceful shaming of an ally in the history of America.

Trump having shown whose side he was on, the drones and missiles began falling heavier and harder on Ukraine.

Still unable to face the reality his best friend was ***** slapping him, Trump announced he was going to provide Ukraine DEFENSIVE weapons. Trump STILL won't provide Ukraine the means to get Putin out of Ukraine and get their country back. Ukraine needs OFFENSIVE weapons.

The appeasers of the 70s and 80s made the same noises MAGAs make. They whimpered about World War III. They took Russia's side over our allies'. They curled up in the fetal position and sucked their thumbs.

Ronald Reagan ignored the weak-minded and the appeasers. He stood up to KGB Putin's superiors. He upped the pressure on them, and they finally collapsed in ruin.

We need another Reagan, not a thumb-sucking, dictator-appeasing, loser.

Trump needs to wake up to the realities of the world.

US to resume delivery of 'defensive weapons' to Ukraine, says Trump​

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That is a lesson I suspect Agent Krasnov is ill equipped to internalize.

 

[Correll]

Trump doing exactly as Biden did, but you still support him. It’s the way of the uniparty. Dumb ******* dupes.

intent counts.

Biden was happy to see the meatgrinder continue because it served his purposes.

Trump is giving PEACE a good faith effort, but Putin is refusing to be reasonable.


That works for me. That works for MAGA. We want peace, but if PUtin refuses to be reasonable, then that is on him.

 

[Correll]

Hahahahahahahaha. Yet your orange doofus continues Biden’s policies of prolonging the war. Dupes! So many dupes.

"prolonging" is a subtle word choice.

It implies intent. Biden clearly wanted the war to continue. Trump clearly does not.

 

[AntonToo]

Other than they knock out Russian tanks at long range.

DURRRRRR

Number of Russian tanks Javelins from 2019 knocked out in year 2025 - ZERO

This while Trump held back billions in weaponry, refused to call Russia the agressor in the war, limited war theater inteligence sharing and publicly shit on Ukraine's president.

Take you stupid DURRs and shove it you know where.

 

[AntonToo]

Biden was happy to see the meatgrinder continue because it served his purposes

Hey bullshit peddler, meatgrinder continues under Trump, so lets see you show just an ounce of consistency and say the same about him.

 

[Correll]

Thats just your stupid fantasy.

Supposedly meatgrinder happned before because Biden was happy about it,

And that's not what I said. I said that Biden was happy to see it continue. That is what I said. The invasion happened becasue Putin ordered it. But Biden seemed happy to see it continue. Certainly his partisans were happy to see it continue indefinetly, no matter how many people died in it.

so now that meatgrinder is happening will also start claiming that Trump is happy about it?

Noting in Trump's behavior suggests he is happy about it. He clearly wanted to see PEACE happen. MAGA certainly is disappointed that Putin was not more reasonable.


This is the reality of the situation.


That you feel a need to lie about it, does that not seem strange to you?

 

[gipper]

"prolonging" is a subtle word choice.

It implies intent. Biden clearly wanted the war to continue. Trump clearly does not.

Apparently you don’t know Don continues to arm Ukraine, which only prolongs the killing and destruction.

 

[Correll]

Apparently you don’t know Don continues to arm Ukraine, which only prolongs the killing and destruction.

I'm sad that Putin was not more reasonable and refused to make peace.

And I'm fine that Trump is doing what he has to to prevent a Russian victory.

This is a clear and reasonable position.

Would you like to address it, or continue to pretend to not understand it?

 

[AntonToo]

And that's not what I said. I said that Biden was happy to see it continue. That is what I said. The invasion happened becasue Putin ordered it. But Biden seemed happy to see it continue.

Biden WARNED about incoming Putin invasion 2 months before it took place, tried to negotiate, tried to stop Putin with every threat and off-ramp from invading Ukraine.

In what world is that behavior of someone "happy to see meatgrinder"? You just belive whatever you want to.

Nobody in their right ******* mind wants to see hundreds of thousands people get killed and if you belive some shit like that about someone you better have a damn good reason.

 

[Correll]

Biden WARNED about incoming Putin invasion 2 months before it took place, tried to negotiate, tried to stop Putin with every threat and off-ramp from invading Ukraine.

In what world is that behavior of someone "happy to see meatgrinder"? You just belive whatever you want to.

Nobody in their right ******* mind wants to see hundreds of thousands people get killed and if you belive some shit like that about someone you better have a damn good reason.

The leftie partisans I talked on this site, the biden supporters, certainly did/do.

Trump and MAGA wanted to see Peace. We are sorry it did not work out. We are clear about that. The lefty partisans I have discussed this issue with, have reguallar discussed how they want the war to continue till PUtin falls or the russians are driven from ukrainian territory.