Is Trump FINALLY Learning Appeasement NEVER Works?

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump's only skills are bending reality and detecting what his marks want to hear.

You mean like Ukraine "winning"?

 

[Meathead]

Liar...

Liar...

gay5000 lying? perish the thought.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The Democrats have been full-bore supportive of Ukraine.

Nice try.

Of course, Ukraine kick backs to democrats part of all the foreign aid we send them. It's called money laundering.

 

[Independent thinker]

Donald Trump has always admired strongmen, even communist dictators. He has had a particular fawning admiration of Stalinist dictator Vladimir Putin for decades, going back to the 90s.

Trump on Fox News:

O'REILLY: Putin's a killer.

TRUMP: There are a lot of killers. We have a lot of killers. Well, you think our country is so innocent?

Does it get more supplicating sycophancy to Putin than that?!?

So much for America First! That's not how a patriot talks about America.

Imagine how the Fox News viewers would have reacted if Obama ever said such a thing! Imagine how YOU would have reacted!



Some time ago, Trump wanted to build a Trump Tower in Moscow and offered the penthouse, valued at $50 million, to Putin. Despite working on business dealings in Russia, Trump denied it during the 2016 campaign. When he was finally outed as lying, he claimed everyone knew about it! And his followers did an Orwellian acceptance of these lies.

These, and other examples, explain Trump's weakness with Putin. This explains why Putin has no fear of Trump and has intensely ramped up his drone and missile attacks on Ukrainian civilians since Trump was sworn in. And all Trump can do is whine, "Vladimir, STOP!" after he had tried to appease Putin in Saudi Arabia and thought he had negotiated a cease fire with the mass murdering war criminal.

Trump came back from Saudi Arabia and immediately began parroting Putin's lies and propaganda. Team Trump began calling Zelensky a dictator (talk about irony!) and summoned him to the White House for the most disgraceful shaming of an ally in the history of America.

Trump having shown whose side he was on, the drones and missiles began falling heavier and harder on Ukraine.

Still unable to face the reality his best friend was ***** slapping him, Trump announced he was going to provide Ukraine DEFENSIVE weapons. Trump STILL won't provide Ukraine the means to get Putin out of Ukraine and get their country back. Ukraine needs OFFENSIVE weapons.

The appeasers of the 70s and 80s made the same noises MAGAs make. They whimpered about World War III. They took Russia's side over our allies'. They curled up in the fetal position and sucked their thumbs.

Ronald Reagan ignored the weak-minded and the appeasers. He stood up to KGB Putin's superiors. He upped the pressure on them, and they finally collapsed in ruin.

We need another Reagan, not a thumb-sucking, dictator-appeasing, loser.

Trump needs to wake up to the realities of the world.

US to resume delivery of 'defensive weapons' to Ukraine, says Trump​

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Under Biden, Ukraine was continually losing territory. If that isn't appeasement then I don't know what is. Biden also got out of Afghanistan so badly that the Taliban took over control of the country so fast that we left behind billions of dollars worth of military equipment. That also sounds like appeasement. Then Hamas terrorists kill scores of Israelis and Biden wants Israel to surrender, appeasement toward Hamas. Did Trump appease Iran when he bombed their nuclear sites?

 

[westwall]

The Democrats have been full-bore supportive of Ukraine.

Nice try.

Oh yeah, obummer and biden were all over that Russian invasion of Crimea.

Gave Ukraine all sorts of weapons to take the peninsula back.......


Oh......wait......

Ummmmmm.....yeah......that never happened. Obammy and bribem let them have it.

With friends like them who needs enemies.

 

[22lcidw]

And he did not listen to the Soviet's threats of WWIII. He knew it was a bluff.

The useful idiot appeasers whimpered and whined.

There is more to Ukraine then what we are told. This is why we have people on these boards who mock others about conspiracy theories. So now we have two lies at least in the Epstein agenda and the Ukraine agenda. Not minor ones.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Homey don't play that game

Are you a solid AMERICA FIRST MAGA PATRIOT?

Want to avoid a nuclear WW3?

Then go to SEARCH and find them

Hmm. Smells like bullshit.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

WWIII might start in Azerbaijan after Ukraine collapses

 

[g5000]

You like the status quo? Can you cite an era you like best?

The Era of Good Feelings.

 

[g5000]

It would not surprise me if during the "Trump Administration" a nuclear WW3 occurs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But is it really the "Trump Administration" when the CIA has coerced him to stop negotiations in Ukraine and ARBITRARILY attack Iran ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Lindsey Graham and the CIA invaded the Whitehouse in June and offered him a deal he could not refuse

WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE

Dude. Please.

 

[g5000]

Those relationships were killing US.

The other nations of the world had plenty of warnings and time to fix this problem. THey choose to just keep on rolling and now Trump is here to try to fix it in a short time window.

Why did China not take steps to reduce the trade imbalance, after the first Trump Term?

I'm going to be starting a topic about trade imbalances soon.

Trade imbalances are a necessary part of being the world's reserve currency.

 

[g5000]

YUP

PURE UNADULTERATED CIA BULLSHIT

You are competing against "Litwin" for the biggest CIA allowance

Hmmm. I have not received a check. Identity theft!

 

[g5000]

You mean like Ukraine "winning"?

Like it's Ukraine's fault for being invaded.

Like Zelensky is a dictator.

Like Putin had to invade Ukraine to save it from Nazis.

All the usual Putin lies which go straight from his ass into MAGAs mouths.

 

[g5000]

Of course, Ukraine kick backs to democrats part of all the foreign aid we send them. It's called money laundering.

More of Putin's lies which go straight from his ass to your mouth.

 

[g5000]

Under Biden, Ukraine was continually losing territory.

Thanks to the US, Ukraine was able to gain back territory. They did not continually lose territory. That is false.

Putin expected to be in Kyiv in a matter of weeks. The Ukrainians stopped him in his tracks and the US and Europe helped to destroy Putin's military strength considerably to where he is much less a threat to the world than ever before.

Remember, Nazi Germany conquered a lot of territory and held it for some time before the Allies got it back.

That is the nature of warfare and dealing with aggressors.

These are the realities, not what Fox News tells you.

If that isn't appeasement then I don't know what is.

Well, then you don't know what appeasement is, obviously.

Biden also got out of Afghanistan so badly that the Taliban took over control of the country so fast that we left behind billions of dollars worth of military equipment.

The $80 billion of military equipment thing was a lie. A propagandanist hoax.

The fact is, it was Trump who surrendered to the Taliban at Camp David in 2019 right about the time of the 9/11 anniversary that year.

A disgrace.

Then Hamas terrorists kill scores of Israelis and Biden wants Israel to surrender, appeasement toward Hamas. Did Trump appease Iran when he bombed their nuclear sites?

Trump loves Putin, not the ayatollah. He loves Bibi, too.

 

[g5000]

There is more to Ukraine then what we are told. This is why we have people on these boards who mock others about conspiracy theories. So now we have two lies at least in the Epstein agenda and the Ukraine agenda. Not minor ones.

Reagan knew the USSR was a paper tiger. He knew their military was much weaker than they let on in their May Day parades.

And now we know Putin is also far weaker than he lets on.

 

[Independent thinker]

Thanks to the US, Ukraine was able to gain back territory. They did not continually lose territory. That is false.

Putin expected to be in Kyiv in a matter of weeks. The Ukrainians stopped him in his tracks and the US and Europe helped to destroy Putin's military strength considerably to where he is much less a threat to the world than ever before.

Remember, Nazi Germany conquered a lot of territory and held it for some time before the Allies got it back.

That is the nature of warfare and dealing with aggressors.

These are the realities, not what Fox News tells you.





Well, then you don't know what appeasement is, obviously.



The $80 billion of military equipment thing was a lie. A propagandanist hoax.

The fact is, it was Trump who surrendered to the Taliban at Camp David in 2019 right about the time of the 9/11 anniversary that year.

A disgrace.



Trump loves Putin, not the ayatollah. He loves Bibi, too.

Under Biden and the US Ukraine continually lost territory. Yeah, sure they took some back here and there but it doesn't change the fact that, overall, Ukraine continued to lose territory.

 

[g5000]

There is more to Ukraine then what we are told.

Nope.

If there is any ignorance about Ukraine on this board, that is the fault of the ignorant.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Like it's Ukraine's fault for being invaded.

Yes, pushing NATO to Russia's border started this

Like Zelensky is a dictator.

5 years into a 4 years term, bans political parties, religions and killed an American Reporter

Like Putin had to invade Ukraine to save it from Nazis.

Azov Battalion, look it up. Killed 14,000 ethnic Russian in Donbas after the CIA Coup in 2014

All the usual Putin lies which go straight from his ass into MAGAs mouths.

 

[g5000]

Yes, pushing NATO to Russia's border started this

Thank you for your input, comrade useful idiot.

And now NATO has two more countries on Russia's border.

Well played, Vladimir!

5 years into a 4 years term, bans political parties, religions and killed an American Reporter

Ukraine has been invaded. The only political parties and churches, not religions, which are under sanction are those who are organs of Russia.

As for 5 years into a 4 year term, the Ukrainian constitution forbids elections during periods of martial law, like BEING UNDER INVASION.

And I don't see you whining about a Russian dictator who has been in power since 1999 and even went to the extraordinary length to rewrite his country's constitution to allow him to exceed his term limits.

This is a guy who does not allow anyone to run for office who stands even the slightest chance of winning votes. And he KILLS opponents, sometimes even their FAMILIES.

Look at you, going after Zelensky like a good little Putin mouthpiece. Jesus! A textbook case of projection.


Your head is being filled with a lot of pro-Stalinist thug bogus propaganda.

Azov Battalion, look it up. Killed 14,000 ethnic Russian in Donbas after the CIA Coup in 2014

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Azov Azov Azov. I've heard all that crap before.

Four things.

One, the Azov battalion is less than one half of one percent of the Ukrainian military.

You trying to tell me that's why Putin invaded Ukraine? Are you really that gullible?

Two, the extreme exaggeration of the Azov battalion's significance was created by a Russian propaganda outlet and was carried from there by useful idiots in the American press who worship Putin.

Go to www.newsguardtech.com/special-reports/john-mark-dougan-russian-disinformation-network

Three, perhaps you may have heard. Zelensky is Jewish. D'oh!

And finally, four. Let's take a look at who the actual Nazis are, because Putin has you useful idiots projecting for him like champions.

He must be so proud of himself for how easily he has you dancing to his tunes.

Did someone say Nazis?

Worse Than Nazis – PMC Wagner’s Role in Ukraine​

Is it possible to surpass the brutality of Nazi war criminals – it seems the Private Military Company Wagner is out to do just that.

Even the name is no coincidence – Richard Wagner was Hitler’s favorite composer. Word has it that the head of the Wagner group, Dmitry Utkin, is a fan of the Third Reich, and, therefore, gave the group this name.

The Wagner PMC mercenaries have been involved in a long list of crimes during the full-scale invasion of Ukraine – atrocities in Bucha; the recent attack on Azov war prisoners in the Olenivka correctional colony. Even the militant that castrated a Ukrainian prisoner with a clerical knife in the latest video could also be a member of the Wagner group.

PMC Wagner is a Russian private military organization that, according to journalistic investigations, is financed through Yevgeny Prigozhin – a member of Putin’s “inner circle”. PMC Wagner took part in military operations in Ukraine in 2014, in Syria, Lybia, and in African countries.

Who Are The Neo-Nazis Fighting For Russia In Ukraine?​

The video, published in December 2020, showed two nattily dressed Russian men -- waistcoats, pocket squares, silk ties – sipping American whiskey in brandy snifters and discussing killing Ukrainians.

"I'm a Nazi. I’m a Nazi,” said one of the men, Aleksei Milchakov, who was the main focus of the video published on a Russian nationalist YouTube channel. “I'm not going to go deep and say, I’m a nationalist, a patriot, an imperialist, and so forth. I’ll say it outright: I’m a Nazi.”

“You have to understand that when you kill a person, you feel the excitement of the hunt. If you’ve never been hunting, you should try it. It’s interesting,” he said.

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Along with members of the Russian Imperial Movement, a white supremacist group that was designated a "global terrorist" organization by the United States two years ago, Rusich is one of several right-wing groups that are actively fighting in Ukraine, in conjunction with Russia’s regular armed forces or allied separatist units.

According to a confidential report by Germany’s Federal Intelligence Service, which was obtained by Der Spiegel and excerpted on May 22, numerous Russian right-wing extremists and neo-Nazis are fighting in Ukraine.

German analysts wrote that the fact that Russian military and political leaders have welcomed neo-Nazi groups undermines the claim by Putin and his government that one of the principal motives behind the invasion is the desire to “de-Nazify” Ukraine, Spiegel said.

Signs of Neo-Nazi Ideology Amongst Russian Mercenaries​

Instances of far-right leanings among some members of the armed forces is not unheard of in many other parts of the world, including Europe and North America. This is an increasingly common problem in Russia as well. Even more, the type of far-right ideology expressed in Russian mercenaries is showing homage to Nazi ideology.

This type of ideology espoused by Russian mercenaries remains anathema in a country where millions died fighting Nazis during World War II. The slogan “to fight fascism” was one of the rallying points inviting Russian volunteers to fight in Donbas against “Ukrainian Fascists”. Russian President Putin has called Ukraine a fascist country numerous times, yet the numerous mercenaries who went to fight in Donbas, Syria and Libya are neo-nazis themselves. This article analyses some of the available open source evidence, shedding light on Russian mercenaries’ extreme ideology.

Dmitry Utkin (Wagner)​

In 2016, Utkin was invited at a Hero of the Fatherland reception in the Kremlin, where he was photographed wearing his medals. This event was attended by more than 300 soldiers and civilians, who have “demonstrated particular courage and heroism” and were personally thanked for their service by Putin himself. At the event he was awarded with the Order for Courage, allegedly for his services in Ukraine.

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A photo recently surfaced of Utkin with Nazi tattoos, giving additional proof of his ideological leanings. For those who been following Wagner group for some time this photos was not surprising, as his and a lot of Wagner fighters’ ideological inclinations were already known. The photo originally surfaced on Russian VK accounts and a Telegram group affiliated with the mercenaries, but received interest by media outlets just recently.


Taking a closer look at the photos, Nazi collar tabs with Waffen SS bolts on the left and military rank on the right can be identified. Lower on the chest, a Reichsadler Eagle, can be seen. All three of these tattoos are symbols found Waffen-SS military uniforms, which was the military branch of the Nazi Party’s SS organization.

Here are the REAL Nazis in the house:

As I said, straight from Putin's ass to your mouth.