Is Tom Brady the Greatest Ever?

[Billo_Really]

I wondered why anyone would bring up Roman Gabriel in a discussion of the greatest QBs

Because he would kick the shit out of all the other quarterbacks. Roman Gabriel was a stud. He led the Rams to an 11-0 season until they ran into that asshole Joe Kapp.

 

[Billo_Really]

Go for it....and post their credentials

Are you referring to their "filming" credentials?

 

[rightwinger]

I wondered why anyone would bring up Roman Gabriel in a discussion of the greatest QBs

Because he would kick the shit out of all the other quarterbacks. Roman Gabriel was a stud. He led the Rams to an 11-0 season until they ran into that asshole Joe Kapp.

John Brodie was a better QB

 

[Billo_Really]

John Brodie was a better QB

**** you!

 

[rightwinger]

John Brodie was a better QB

**** you!

John Riley Brodie (born August 14, 1935) is a former American football player, a quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers of the National Football League for seventeen seasons. ... He retired as the third most prolific career passer in NFL history, and was the league MVP in 1970 and a two-time Pro Bowler.

 

[Oldstyle]

Brady's ability to get the ball out fast and the Patriot's receiver's abilities to gain yardage after catches would have shredded the Raider teams of that era. It wouldn't even be a contest.

Bullshit. That little out pattern Bilentnikoff ran was unstoppable. And Ben Davidson would do to Brady what he did to Len Dawson.

BTW, the fastest triggers in NFL history were Marino and Jurgenson.

Since Belichick is going to take away your best receiver's best route...you better be ready to run something else, Billo! If the refs check Freddie for stick-um...his ass is going to be sitting on the bench!

Brady's strength is pre-snap reads. He's going to find out what coverage you're in by moving his personnel around...he's going to get the matchup he likes and he's going to go to that person LONG before Ben Davidson gets near him. He's going to run hurry up offense until the Raiders D is panting for air and falling on the ground exhausted, spreading them out and making them chase down receivers who are all great at yards after the catch.

 

[Oldstyle]

Gronk is so much more of a defensive nightmare than Freddie B. it's not even funny! He's too big to cover with a safety and he's too fast to cover with a linebacker. Even double teaming him doesn't always work because he's so damn tall and so athletic. Gronkowski would make the Raiders D look like little kids trying to tackle a grown man.

 

[Oldstyle]

John Brodie was a better QB

**** you!

John Riley Brodie (born August 14, 1935) is a former American football player, a quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers of the National Football League for seventeen seasons. ... He retired as the third most prolific career passer in NFL history, and was the league MVP in 1970 and a two-time Pro Bowler.

I played in a charity golf tournament with Brodie. He's an unbelievably good golfer!

 

[Billo_Really]

I played in a charity golf tournament with Brodie. He's an unbelievably good golfer!

God made golf so white guys could dress like pimps!

 

[Billo_Really]

Gronk is so much more of a defensive nightmare than Freddie B. it's not even funny! He's too big to cover with a safety and he's too fast to cover with a linebacker. Even double teaming him doesn't always work because he's so damn tall and so athletic. Gronkowski would make the Raiders D look like little kids trying to tackle a grown man.

You do realize the Raiders had two of the greatest cornerbacks to ever play the game?

 

[Billo_Really]

Since Belichick is going to take away your best receiver's best route...you better be ready to run something else, Billo! If the refs check Freddie for stick-um...his ass is going to be sitting on the bench!

What? I don't know what you're talking about? Freddie never used stick-um. He was all natural. He was bitten by a spider when he was really young and was just naturally sticky the rest of his life.

Brady's strength is pre-snap reads. He's going to find out what coverage you're in by moving his personnel around...he's going to get the matchup he likes and he's going to go to that person LONG before Ben Davidson gets near him. He's going to run hurry up offense until the Raiders D is panting for air and falling on the ground exhausted, spreading them out and making them chase down receivers who are all great at yards after the catch.

If Brady ever faced the Fearsome Foursome, or the Steel Curtain, or the Purple People Eaters, he'd be running the butt-fumble on every play.

 

[Billo_Really]

John Riley Brodie (born August 14, 1935) is a former American football player, a quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers of the National Football League for seventeen seasons. ... He retired as the third most prolific career passer in NFL history, and was the league MVP in 1970 and a two-time Pro Bowler.

I know who he was. He was the guy under Merlin Olsen and Deacon Jones after every play.

 

[ChrisL]

Tom Brady has more than proven his greatness. I suppose those from older generations will always have their "favs" but the facts speak for themselves.

Well, I'm a Laker fan. I hate everything that has to do with Boston.

Boston rules. California drools.

 

[Papageorgio]

Lamonica's a step in the right direction, Billo but he's still not Brady! Neither is The Snake!

Admit it...the reason you hate Brady so much is that he's broken your heart in the past!

In the last 2 minutes, I'll take the Snake to Bilentikoff, over Brady to Gronk, any day of the week.

Ghost to the post.

 

[Papageorgio]

I played in a charity golf tournament with Brodie. He's an unbelievably good golfer!

God made golf so white guys could dress like pimps!

Nice to see you back Billo. How have you been?

 

[Papageorgio]

Gronk is so much more of a defensive nightmare than Freddie B. it's not even funny! He's too big to cover with a safety and he's too fast to cover with a linebacker. Even double teaming him doesn't always work because he's so damn tall and so athletic. Gronkowski would make the Raiders D look like little kids trying to tackle a grown man.

You do realize the Raiders had two of the greatest cornerbacks to ever play the game?

Hayes and Haynes.

 

[ChrisL]

Since Belichick is going to take away your best receiver's best route...you better be ready to run something else, Billo! If the refs check Freddie for stick-um...his ass is going to be sitting on the bench!

What? I don't know what you're talking about? Freddie never used stick-um. He was all natural. He was bitten by a spider when he was really young and was just naturally sticky the rest of his life.

Brady's strength is pre-snap reads. He's going to find out what coverage you're in by moving his personnel around...he's going to get the matchup he likes and he's going to go to that person LONG before Ben Davidson gets near him. He's going to run hurry up offense until the Raiders D is panting for air and falling on the ground exhausted, spreading them out and making them chase down receivers who are all great at yards after the catch.

If Brady ever faced the Fearsome Foursome, or the Steel Curtain, or the Purple People Eaters, he'd be running the butt-fumble on every play.

No way. He would catch on to their game, like he always does and then, he would win the game!

 

[Oldstyle]

Gronk is so much more of a defensive nightmare than Freddie B. it's not even funny! He's too big to cover with a safety and he's too fast to cover with a linebacker. Even double teaming him doesn't always work because he's so damn tall and so athletic. Gronkowski would make the Raiders D look like little kids trying to tackle a grown man.

You do realize the Raiders had two of the greatest cornerbacks to ever play the game?

Who do you have them cover? You've got Edelman, Amandola, Mitchell, Hogan, Gronkowski, Bennett, White & Lewis who can all catch balls. Brady is going to find the matchup he likes best...like White in the Super Bowl and he's going to keep going to it until you change your defense to stop it. So who on the Raiders are you putting which receivers for the Patriots? You better have five players who can cover in open space because if you don't Tom Brady is going to exploit your weak link...time...after time...after time! The Patriots are going to run hurry up and they're going to substitute to keep their receivers fresh. I'm sorry, Billo but that Patriots Offense is going to overwhelm the Raiders D. It's not even going to be close.

 

[Oldstyle]

I played in a charity golf tournament with Brodie. He's an unbelievably good golfer!

God made golf so white guys could dress like pimps!

Hmmm...today I wore black pants and a red shirt. Are you calling Tiger a "pimp"? That's not very PC of you, Billo!

 

[Billo_Really]

Boston rules. California drools.

You take that back!