Is this what a patriot looks like?

[amethyst]

The other thing is Elon is investigating the Tesla instruments. Did the computer detect no movement and how long before the blast..would be my question.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You "think" do you? Well that's interesting.

Would have been more interesting if you'd have spoken about the topic.

"Patriot" is like the word "love"... what does it mean?

I've asked a few times on here and the answers range from "I know what it means, I don't need to tell you" (as in, no fucking clue) and those who try once to explain then resort to insults when they realize they don't have a fucking clue.

But I guess your "tigger word" is "trigger"... I don't get triggered, I don't expect anything from anyone on this board. I don't expect good debates, I don't expect knowledge, I don't expect people to be smart about their choices. So nothing triggers me.

every group has their own type of person they consider a patriot....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Fuck off, have a nice day, you're on ignore.

for that?.....you are triggered....

 

[the watcher]

I think this is what a character in a story looks like. A trained and experienced special forces guy who knew a lot about explosives put together some camper fuel bombs? He arrived in a self driving car? He was so badly burned they identified him by tattoos, but

The body of the cyber truck driver was severely burnt and “unrecognizable,” yet authorities retrieved ID, passport, phone, and smartwatch and determined he shot himself before the explosion.​

Sort of like when the plane hit the WTC and their drivers' license was found laying on top. I think the explosion was meant to blur the crime scene and provide some destruction of evidence, if he was alive then he didn't mean to do a lot of damage. Maybe he wanted to make some sort of statement, but this doesn't sit right. I think a narrative is being set up.

 

[CowboyTed]

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/02/us/matthew-alan-livelsberger-vegas-cybertruck-explosion/index.html

So, apparently Matthew Livelsberger was a super "patriot". Patriotic because he posted "patriotic" messages on Facebook, patriotic because he served in the special forces and patriotic because he loved Trump.

A patriot loves their country. Matthew Livelsberger put a bomb in his car and tried to kill people, but for some reason failed, but still injured seven people.

Luckily he was less of a "patriot" than Timothy McVeigh who killed 167 people in Oklahoma. A war veteran like Livelsberger, and thought patriotism would take place by trying to make a revolution.

Had McVeigh been alive today, he'd have been posting pro-Trump stuff all over Facebook too, why? Because he was a "super patriot" too.

It is the definition of Patriot...

In US they have it linked to the flag, the anthem and supporting the troops (while voting to cut Vet bills).

In Europe that it is about supporting the society we live in and the member s of our society need to be supported. That is what consider patriotic... Yes there are sports teams to support but what is the real indicator is how well are we preforming in Healthcare, Education, Policing... There is no envy if you are mid-table but a question at what are the country who are leading doing different, what are there benefits and costs...
But it is all about having a better society (Country)...

Europe looks at US main indicator number and politely say no thanks... No Western European politician would say that we need a Healthcare, Policing or Education system modelled on US.. It is considered expensive and highly inefficient due to overtly commercial interests (i.e. too privatised)...

 

[Meathead]

It is the definition of Patriot...

In US they have it linked to the flag, the anthem and supporting the troops (while voting to cut Vet bills).

In Europe that it is about supporting the society we live in and the member s of our society need to be supported. That is what consider patriotic... Yes there are sports teams to support but what is the real indicator is how well are we preforming in Healthcare, Education, Policing... There is no envy if you are mid-table but a question at what are the country who are leading doing different, what are there benefits and costs...
But it is all about having a better society (Country)...

Europe looks at US main indicator number and politely say no thanks... No Western European politician would say that we need a Healthcare, Policing or Education system modelled on US.. It is considered expensive and highly inefficient due to overtly commercial interests (i.e. too privatised)...

I had a good Greek friend who got seriously ill. He was fortunate enough to come from a wealthy family who sent him to the US and saved his life.

 

[Oddball]

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/02/us/matthew-alan-livelsberger-vegas-cybertruck-explosion/index.html

So, apparently Matthew Livelsberger was a super "patriot". Patriotic because he posted "patriotic" messages on Facebook, patriotic because he served in the special forces and patriotic because he loved Trump.

A patriot loves their country. Matthew Livelsberger put a bomb in his car and tried to kill people, but for some reason failed, but still injured seven people.

Luckily he was less of a "patriot" than Timothy McVeigh who killed 167 people in Oklahoma. A war veteran like Livelsberger, and thought patriotism would take place by trying to make a revolution.

Had McVeigh been alive today, he'd have been posting pro-Trump stuff all over Facebook too, why? Because he was a "super patriot" too.

 

[Arlette]

I think this is what a character in a story looks like. A trained and experienced special forces guy who knew a lot about explosives put together some camper fuel bombs? He arrived in a self driving car? He was so badly burned they identified him by tattoos, but

The body of the cyber truck driver was severely burnt and “unrecognizable,” yet authorities retrieved ID, passport, phone, and smartwatch and determined he shot himself before the explosion.​

Sort of like when the plane hit the WTC and their drivers' license was found laying on top. I think the explosion was meant to blur the crime scene and provide some destruction of evidence, if he was alive then he didn't mean to do a lot of damage. Maybe he wanted to make some sort of statement, but this doesn't sit right. I think a narrative is being set up.

Several accounts describe him as some Rambo type who couldn't adjust to civilian life that wanted to get back into action fighting in Ukraine. His personal life was messy.

 

[ColonelAngus]

This is what a Democrat looks like.

 

[sparky]

He was dead before the truck was detonated.

which should be suspicious in of itself Duke ~S~

 

[Arlette]

This is what a Democrat looks like.

This is the typical MAGA

 

[ColonelAngus]

This is the typical MAGA View attachment 1061033

Look at those lats! Dont fuck with Tweedle dee.

The hips to waist ratio is like Kim Kardasian.

He keeps his pencils and pens in his back fat, he is gangster AF.

You know you want to fuck that guy,

 

[Moonglow]

Patriots are people that oppose radical ideologies like Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Globalism, Wokeism, progressivism, and every other “-ism” that seeks to destroy the US.

Blowing up a car at a hotel isn’t accomplishing that, there is nothing patriotic about it. Apparently the man’s wife just dumped him the day before. We know very little about his motives. But of course you want to make it all about “MAGA” types, and want to pretend we’re “the real threat”.

And now you hate Americanism, no surprise really.

 

[Moonglow]

Probably who detonated the explosive, you fucking moron! He did not.
How did a guy that was shot in the head detonate himself, you drooling nincompoop!
This thing screams rogue operators.

timer

 

[CrusaderFrank]

McVeigh was a patsy. British journalist Ambrose Evans-Pritchard wrote about the OKC bombing in depth, back in the late 90's. It sounds like you haven't looked into that beyond what the controlled MSM spoon-fed you. And as for this Livelsberger guy, my guess is he is probably a patsy too.

They found Mohammed Attas passport in tact too!

 

[Nostra]

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/02/us/matthew-alan-livelsberger-vegas-cybertruck-explosion/index.html

So, apparently Matthew Livelsberger was a super "patriot". Patriotic because he posted "patriotic" messages on Facebook, patriotic because he served in the special forces and patriotic because he loved Trump.

A patriot loves their country. Matthew Livelsberger put a bomb in his car and tried to kill people, but for some reason failed, but still injured seven people.

Luckily he was less of a "patriot" than Timothy McVeigh who killed 167 people in Oklahoma. A war veteran like Livelsberger, and thought patriotism would take place by trying to make a revolution.

Had McVeigh been alive today, he'd have been posting pro-Trump stuff all over Facebook too, why? Because he was a "super patriot" too.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I think Trumper MAGA doesn’t have a clue what patriotism is.

Loving Trump certainly isn't 'patriotic.'

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This is the typical MAGA View attachment 1061033

 

[Harry Dresden]

Loving Trump certainly isn't 'patriotic.'

no matter what jones....those people are more patriotic than you will ever be....

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Er... I'm betting if I found a person who A) claimed to be a "patriot" and B) was honest, would say that they don't support the US Constitution in full.

Why? Well, look at Donald "let's ignore the 14th Amendment" Trump.
Let's look at those who abuse the Second Amendment and claims it protects things it doesn't.

And anyone who looks at the mess the US electoral system is in, would realize that Proportional Representation is a much, MUCH better electoral system.

So, I think you're not talking sense here.

Let's take the last, first. There is nothing wrong with the Electoral System. With a "direct democracy when electing a leader, you can end up with leaders like Kim Jung Un. His party convinced the people that they would have beef and rice twice a day and be protected in exchange for the Communist Party. Once in power, the party named its nation, "The Democratic People's Republic of Korea." That they convinced the naive people that it would be good for them and then brutalized them and murdering them for simply objecting to the government, shows that a direct democracy when electing a leader is a bad idea. By having an Electoral College, it gives smaller states and states with less population, an equal voice in choosing a president. Under a direct presidential election, only the largest cities would continually decide who is president and those tend to be under Democrat rule.
As for the 2nd Amendment and people claiming it protects things it doesn't. The 2nd Amendment is pretty straight forward. In summation of its brief paragraph, it allows the people, when faced with a threat to a "state's" freedoms, to bear (carry) arms (weapons) and form a well-regulated militia to fight for that state's freedoms and that freedom to bear arms, per the Amendment, CANNOT be infringed. To meet that challenge to keep a state free, the people must not be infringed on owning firearms to fight for their state. My personal opinion on that is that to fight a potential threat to a free state, the people should be allowed to own any small arms (rifles and pistols) that military personnel do.
Trump and the 14th Amendment??? What the hell does slavery have anything to do with anything in the 21st century.
As for supporting the Constitution in full, I am sure that plenty of patriots have some minor issues with some elements of the entire Constitution and its Amendments. But overall are in favor of it and its first ten Amendments which are our Bill of Rights. That said, any individual who must be sworn in and take an oath to support the Constitution, must be in total agreement with the entire Constitution and especially it's Bill of Rights, otherwise they should not hold the office.