Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

Are secular scientists prone to exaggeration in support of accepted theories?

  • Yes, at least on occasion.

    Votes: 5 83.3%
  • No, never. They are highly respected and above tweaking data... They are above suspicion.

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
    6
You think Everest grew 20,000 feet in 6000 years?

Yes, in a way. I hear many people want to get to the top of the mount that there is a line now. What's tragic is they end up freezing to death waiting.

Mt. Everest wasn't as big before and the global flood caused it to rise to its present point now. The evidence is the marine fossils found near the top. Catastrophism.
 
is that what you read???

maybe the problem is you,,,


they do find clam fossils on everest, so at one time it wasnt a mountain,,,

Read about plate tectonics and the formation of mountains
There are no human fossils on Everest


your point???
As my original point

The flooding had to be over 20,000 feet to cover the mountains and kill all life
but who said the mountains were that tall then???

All of them?

How tall do you think they were?
You think Everest grew 20,000 feet in 6000 years?


I have no idea,,,its you that said you knew, the question is how do you know???
 
Do I believe there is evidence that species transform over very long periods of time? Absolutely.

We cannot demonstrate nor observe long periods of time, so it's not part of the scientific method. One can't go back in time. Long time a "faith-based" belief. All we know is that species change over short time.
 
How exactly did the rock layer bend? Was it the flood waters or the continents scooting all over the place?
It was chemistry from the sediments and water as the rock layer formed and the water and land pressure bent the layer while it hardened.

Once it hardened under water, there is no way to soften it and bend it again like unbaking a cake. The concrete will break.
Not sure what 'land pressure' is but please don't bother to explain, it would just make my head hurt.

As to 'there is no way to soften it and bend it', don't you think that lava is softened rock? Ever watch glass being blown? Once heated enough the solid glass flows easily.

My, my, my. I destroyed your "faith-based" story of how evos think rock bends over long time to the point that you do not understand your own land pressure.

I know concrete does not bend. It becomes brittle as it ages, cracks, and breaks off into small pieces.

Cement hardens through a chemical reaction with water; it even hardens under water. That's what formed the rock layer all over the globe. The rock layer had to be liquid form when it bent thousands of years ago during the global flood.

The water pressure is enough to bend the rock layers. Water is so dense that it would be like hitting rock if you jumped into it from high enough and a flood so devastating that it could kill all the life on earth.

The other evidence is Earth is one place where the surface is 75% water. The evos cannot explain this.

ETA: Your sand would have to be really heated to liquefy. Sedimentary layers aren't like that.
 
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Most Catholics believe in evolution

Only fundamentalist Christians do not

Pope Francis told them it was okay to believe evolution. One of the God's warnings we got about trusting in human leaders. It's happened before. Remember, Pope Gregory?

Will the anti-Christ be a Pope is one hypothesis?
 
Less biased than the Bible

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I don’t spend too much time contemplating the age or origin of the the earth and universe. However I do recognize overwhelming evidence (radiometric dating) that the age of the earth is measured in billions of years by very smart people who study it. In the last 100 years or so man’s knowledge has taken huge leaps. These knowledge leaps have ushered in the computer age and dispelled many old beliefs. But many people just like to believe dumb things, and there is really no harm in you thinking the earth is 6000 years old. Just like there is no harm in believing in Big Foot.

I believe there is a god, and I can believe there is a god while also believing the earth is billions of years old.

Most people don't think about it. I believed Earth and the universe was billions of years old because it was taught to me. It was taught along with how radiometric dating and how uranium decay or radioactive decay works. The latter is testable and we observe a constant decay. What started my questioning it was if it was a fact that the Earth was 4.5 billion years old, then why does the news articles about it always have to mention it. It's a fact. Today, they have bumped it up a skosh to 4.6 billion years old. They will bump it up again in a few years when the James Webb telescope comes online.

That's when I started questioning it because this decay works similar to an hourglass. An hourglass has a constant rate of sand falling down from the top to the bottom. If we know where the sand was when it was flipped over started, then we could figure out how long time had elapsed since it was turned over. The problem with radiometric dating is that no one knows how much sand there was when the hourglass was turned over. Whatever the assumption was made for the presence of uranium and lead, i.e. the parent-daughter isotopes of uranium, then it would affect the results of the age. Thus, assumptions were made over uranium decay so that it would fit a much longer time. If you are wrong with your assumption, then the results become garbage in, garbage out.

As to your last comment about believing in dumb things, it does make a difference of what you believe. For example, if you believe that the Earth is 4.5 or 4.6 B years old, then you may believe wrong things like rock layers bend over long-time with enough heat, pressure, and long-time. No experiment can show that. The experiments do show that rock breaks with enough heat and pressure over short-time. Conclusion: Rocks do not bend?

I was reading about Bigfoot and the FBI this morning. I suppose if you believed in BF, then it's more evidence for your belief. The same if you didn't believe in it. We still do not have a definitive conclusion from the evidence. All we have is the film of it and what type of hairs were found. I suppose it detracts from those who thought it was an ape-type creature, but who knows what that camp will now say.

If you you even begin to believe that Bigfoot could exist, then you are beyond hope. There is there is no Bigfoot and anybody who hasn’t come to that conclusion should never be trusted. The fact that you can’t come to that conclusion tells me all I need to know. You’re not a scientific thinker, and that’s ok. You are somebody who wants to believe, but science is not about wanting to believe. It’s about facts, data, research, testing and skepticism.
 
If you you even begin to believe that Bigfoot could exist, then you are beyond hope. There is there is no Bigfoot and anybody who hasn’t come to that conclusion should never be trusted. The fact that you can’t come to that conclusion tells me all I need to know. You’re not a scientific thinker, and that’s ok. You are somebody who wants to believe, but science is not about wanting to believe. It’s about facts, data, research, testing and skepticism.

I hadn't given BF or Sasquatch much thought. What caught my eye was the FBI was involved and so read the story. Some people found additional evidence in the past and the FBI had analyzed it. That was the story. For you to jump to such silly conclusions about me tells me you aren't scientific nor understand collecting the evidence. For example, you recognize overwhelming evidence of long time from radiometric dating, but do not present any. Instead, you explain it by reasoning what authority and smarter people than you have told you. That doesn't give me much confidence in your argument because I am smarter than you and can argue against what your authority and smarter people have told you.
 

That's not much of an argument. The claim with metamorphic rocks some or all of the minerals in the original rock are replaced, atom by atom, to form new minerals. This is not possible, so it's a "faith-based" belief. Else we would see an experiment on how this is done.

Metamorphic rocks are claimed to be often squished, smeared out, and folded. Despite these uncomfortable conditions, metamorphic rocks do not get hot enough to melt, or they would become igneous rocks -- Igneous rock - Wikipedia.
 
All of them?

How tall do you think they were?
You think Everest grew 20,000 feet in 6000 years?

Not grew, but formed rapidly in short time. The Himalayas, the Alps, the Rockies, the Appalachians, the Andes, and most of the world's other mountains rose up from the Earth's ocean floor and became what they are today composed of ocean-bottom sediments, full of marine fossils laid down by the Noah's Flood. The pre-flood world was relatively flat and didn't take that much water to cover it. Today, we have the high mountains and deep oceans because of it.
 
All of them?

How tall do you think they were?
You think Everest grew 20,000 feet in 6000 years?

Not grew, but formed rapidly in short time. The Himalayas, the Alps, the Rockies, the Appalachians, the Andes, and most of the world's other mountains rose up from the Earth's ocean floor and became what they are today composed of ocean-bottom sediments, full of marine fossils laid down by the Noah's Flood. The pre-flood world was relatively flat and didn't take that much water to cover it. Today, we have the high mountains and deep oceans because of it.

That’s not true at all. The earth was not flat, or relatively flat 6,000 years ago.

Mountains form by movement of the planet’s tectonic plates.

The Flat Earth Society is doing you no favors.
 
Do I believe there is evidence that species transform over very long periods of time? Absolutely.

We cannot demonstrate nor observe long periods of time, so it's not part of the scientific method. One can't go back in time. Long time a "faith-based" belief. All we know is that species change over short time.

Actually, we can observe long periods of time. The Hubble telescope has allowed an unprecedented look back in time at very distant galaxies.

How do ID’iot creationists explain how light travels?
 
Most Catholics believe in evolution

Only fundamentalist Christians do not

Pope Francis told them it was okay to believe evolution. One of the God's warnings we got about trusting in human leaders. It's happened before. Remember, Pope Gregory?

Will the anti-Christ be a Pope is one hypothesis?

Why would you trust the gods? They allowed the church to run a child abuse syndicate that continues today.

Are the gods just too busy with their administrative duties to bother?
 
Try telling that to Einstein who made fun of the priest for his Big Bang theory.

LOL.

Tell that to the woman who came up with the theory that stars were mostly hydrogen and was laughed at, so much so, she later recanted even though she was right. Problem is, in the scientific world at that time, it was believed that women were not as smart, much like the upstart priest that was laughed at for his theory that was also later proven correct.

Belief causes you to snub your nose at the truth, but it is necessary because belief helps us make sense of a world in which we have no way of proving everything.
But now these things are accepted, right?
Science allows for 'belief' to change as evidence becomes available.
Faith is immutable.
Like your faith that your coffee won’t kill you?
Like your faith that you won’t get killed in a car accident?
I'm talking about Faith...not faith.
As an example, Christianity preaches blind Faith while Judaism commands Faith through study.
That’s why so many Jews become scientists.
I thought that is why so many Jews become comedians

Speaking of which, why do Jewish women close their eyes during sex?








So they won't see giving a man some pleasure.
 
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You think Everest grew 20,000 feet in 6000 years?

Yes, in a way. I hear many people want to get to the top of the mount that there is a line now. What's tragic is they end up freezing to death waiting.

Mt. Everest wasn't as big before and the global flood caused it to rise to its present point now. The evidence is the marine fossils found near the top. Catastrophism.

The presence of marine fossils at the top of Everest proves Evolution

plate tectonics forced those mountain ranges up at a time there were only simple simple creatures at the bottom of the sea

No dinosaur bones on top of Everest
 
You think Everest grew 20,000 feet in 6000 years?

Yes, in a way. I hear many people want to get to the top of the mount that there is a line now. What's tragic is they end up freezing to death waiting.

Mt. Everest wasn't as big before and the global flood caused it to rise to its present point now. The evidence is the marine fossils found near the top. Catastrophism.

The presence of marine fossils at the top of Everest proves Evolution

plate tectonics forced those mountain ranges up at a time there were only simple simple creatures at the bottom of the sea

No dinosaur bones on top of Everest
sorry jr but it proves nothing of the sort,,,
 
If you you even begin to believe that Bigfoot could exist, then you are beyond hope. There is there is no Bigfoot and anybody who hasn’t come to that conclusion should never be trusted. The fact that you can’t come to that conclusion tells me all I need to know. You’re not a scientific thinker, and that’s ok. You are somebody who wants to believe, but science is not about wanting to believe. It’s about facts, data, research, testing and skepticism.

I hadn't given BF or Sasquatch much thought. What caught my eye was the FBI was involved and so read the story. Some people found additional evidence in the past and the FBI had analyzed it. That was the story. For you to jump to such silly conclusions about me tells me you aren't scientific nor understand collecting the evidence. For example, you recognize overwhelming evidence of long time from radiometric dating, but do not present any. Instead, you explain it by reasoning what authority and smarter people than you have told you. That doesn't give me much confidence in your argument because I am smarter than you and can argue against what your authority and smarter people have told you.

I am done with this debate. The earth is billions of years old, and anybody who doesn’t think so is a Christian idiot. See ya.
 

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