Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

Are secular scientists prone to exaggeration in support of accepted theories?

  • Yes, at least on occasion.

    Votes: 5 83.3%
  • No, never. They are highly respected and above tweaking data... They are above suspicion.

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
    6
Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

Well that's a deep subject. While the majority believe that God flooded the Earth and not Noah it is confirmed he was on the floor of the Ark most of the time with sea sickness...

Forget about seasickness ... can you imagine what the bottom of that ark looked like after all those months?
THe scrapings from the floor are often found in vegan main courses.
That is what Noah was a vegan on the Ark...
 
All ancient cultures in the Mesopotamian region tell a Great Flood story.

The conclusion, there was a great flood. Just saying the term "flood" implies they are familiar with flooding.

So the question is not if there was a great flood, the question is how far did it extend? Was it global?
Obviously it wasn't or the flora and fauna would all have died. It was devastating coastal flooding and it happened at different times and at different places all over the world. Rivers flood. Seas flooded during the glacial melt after the last ice age. There were floods. It is all pretty interesting.
Evidence suggests that more recently, about 7,600 years ago, at the end of a long dry period, it was flooded when the Mediterranean, having again become separate, broke through at the Bosporus, an event that may have scattered farmers from its shores into Europe and Asia. Some scientists have hypothesized that this event happened catastrophically and is the source of the biblical story of the Deluge.
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Noah saved the animals, he did not save plants

All vegetative matter would have been flooded with over 20,000 feet of water for months. As water receded, it would have been covered in silt and sediment

It would take generations to recover, most would not


how do you know all was under 20K ft of water???
The flood covered the land
Mt Everest is 29,000 feet


today it is,,,

Interesting
So you are saying that Mt Everest and other mountains rose from the earth AFTER humans had populated the earth?
 
Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

Well that's a deep subject. While the majority believe that God flooded the Earth and not Noah it is confirmed he was on the floor of the Ark most of the time with sea sickness...
Viscous storm and Noah had never been to sea
 
There is evidence of a great flood

There is NO evidence that it had anything to do with god or noah


MOST/EVERY culture/mythology in that area had stories/tales of a great flood.
 
Obviously it wasn't or the flora and fauna would all have died. It was devastating coastal flooding and it happened at different times and at different places all over the world. Rivers flood. Seas flooded during the glacial melt after the last ice age. There were floods. It is all pretty interesting.
Evidence suggests that more recently, about 7,600 years ago, at the end of a long dry period, it was flooded when the Mediterranean, having again become separate, broke through at the Bosporus, an event that may have scattered farmers from its shores into Europe and Asia. Some scientists have hypothesized that this event happened catastrophically and is the source of the biblical story of the Deluge.
Black Sea | Encyclopedia.com
Noah saved the animals, he did not save plants

All vegetative matter would have been flooded with over 20,000 feet of water for months. As water receded, it would have been covered in silt and sediment

It would take generations to recover, most would not


how do you know all was under 20K ft of water???
The flood covered the land
Mt Everest is 29,000 feet


today it is,,,

Interesting
So you are saying that Mt Everest and other mountains rose from the earth AFTER humans had populated the earth?


is that what you read???

maybe the problem is you,,,


they do find clam fossils on everest, so at one time it wasnt a mountain,,,
 
Noah saved the animals, he did not save plants

All vegetative matter would have been flooded with over 20,000 feet of water for months. As water receded, it would have been covered in silt and sediment

It would take generations to recover, most would not


how do you know all was under 20K ft of water???
The flood covered the land
Mt Everest is 29,000 feet


today it is,,,

Interesting
So you are saying that Mt Everest and other mountains rose from the earth AFTER humans had populated the earth?


is that what you read???

maybe the problem is you,,,


they do find clam fossils on everest, so at one time it wasnt a mountain,,,


yes....one time....MANY MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO......NOT 6000
 
how do you know all was under 20K ft of water???
The flood covered the land
Mt Everest is 29,000 feet


today it is,,,

Interesting
So you are saying that Mt Everest and other mountains rose from the earth AFTER humans had populated the earth?


is that what you read???

maybe the problem is you,,,


they do find clam fossils on everest, so at one time it wasnt a mountain,,,


yes....one time....MANY MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO......NOT 6000


got any proof of that???

and I never said 6K,,,
 
Noah saved the animals, he did not save plants

All vegetative matter would have been flooded with over 20,000 feet of water for months. As water receded, it would have been covered in silt and sediment

It would take generations to recover, most would not


how do you know all was under 20K ft of water???
The flood covered the land
Mt Everest is 29,000 feet


today it is,,,

Interesting
So you are saying that Mt Everest and other mountains rose from the earth AFTER humans had populated the earth?


is that what you read???

maybe the problem is you,,,


they do find clam fossils on everest, so at one time it wasnt a mountain,,,

Read about plate tectonics and the formation of mountains
There are no human fossils on Everest
 
how do you know all was under 20K ft of water???
The flood covered the land
Mt Everest is 29,000 feet


today it is,,,

Interesting
So you are saying that Mt Everest and other mountains rose from the earth AFTER humans had populated the earth?


is that what you read???

maybe the problem is you,,,


they do find clam fossils on everest, so at one time it wasnt a mountain,,,

Read about plate tectonics and the formation of mountains
There are no human fossils on Everest


your point???
 
This is fascinating. Gobekli Tepe, an archeological site being excavated in Turkey, is many thousands of years older than the first "known" civilizations, 10,000-8,000 BCE, when Mesopotamian Sumer, the "first," was dated to about 4,000 - 3,500 bce.

The tell includes two phases of use, believed to be of a social or ritual nature by site discoverer and excavator Klaus Schmidt, dating back to the 10th–8th millennium BCE.[4] During the first phase, belonging to the Pre-Pottery Neolithic A (PPNA), circles of massive T-shaped stone pillars were erected – the world's oldest known megaliths.[5]
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So there were advanced civilizations occurring five to seven millenia before what has been thought. Some anthropologists surmise these people came from coastal areas that had been displaced by great floods because some of the animals and plants depicted on the pillars are not native to that region.

One thing that is so fascinating to me is that the giant pillars are shaped and arranged so similarly to the megaliths at Stonehenge.

I'm including one link--it is an amazing discovery. Lots of places you can look.
Göbekli Tepe - Wikipedia
 
This is fascinating. Gobekli Tepe, an archeological site being excavated in Turkey, is many thousands of years older than the first "known" civilizations, 10,000-8,000 BCE, when Mesopotamian Sumer, the "first," was dated to about 4,000 - 3,500 bce.

The tell includes two phases of use, believed to be of a social or ritual nature by site discoverer and excavator Klaus Schmidt, dating back to the 10th–8th millennium BCE.[4] During the first phase, belonging to the Pre-Pottery Neolithic A (PPNA), circles of massive T-shaped stone pillars were erected – the world's oldest known megaliths.[5]
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So there were advanced civilizations occurring five to seven millenia before what has been thought. Some anthropologists surmise these people came from coastal areas that had been displaced by great floods because some of the animals and plants depicted on the pillars are not native to that region.

One thing that is so fascinating to me is that the giant pillars are shaped and arranged so similarly to the megaliths at Stonehenge.

I'm including one link--it is an amazing discovery. Lots of places you can look.
Göbekli Tepe - Wikipedia
The Easter Island sculptures, the pyramids of the Mayans, Aztec, Inca and Olmec, and the pyramids of Egypt along with the great walled palaces they built with massive stones with precision cutting and placement is an engineering feat modern humans have trouble recreating.
 
The flood covered the land
Mt Everest is 29,000 feet


today it is,,,

Interesting
So you are saying that Mt Everest and other mountains rose from the earth AFTER humans had populated the earth?


is that what you read???

maybe the problem is you,,,


they do find clam fossils on everest, so at one time it wasnt a mountain,,,

Read about plate tectonics and the formation of mountains
There are no human fossils on Everest


your point???
As my original point

The flooding had to be over 20,000 feet to cover the mountains and kill all life
 
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This is fascinating. Gobekli Tepe, an archeological site being excavated in Turkey, is many thousands of years older than the first "known" civilizations, 10,000-8,000 BCE, when Mesopotamian Sumer, the "first," was dated to about 4,000 - 3,500 bce.

The tell includes two phases of use, believed to be of a social or ritual nature by site discoverer and excavator Klaus Schmidt, dating back to the 10th–8th millennium BCE.[4] During the first phase, belonging to the Pre-Pottery Neolithic A (PPNA), circles of massive T-shaped stone pillars were erected – the world's oldest known megaliths.[5]
View attachment 264090


So there were advanced civilizations occurring five to seven millenia before what has been thought. Some anthropologists surmise these people came from coastal areas that had been displaced by great floods because some of the animals and plants depicted on the pillars are not native to that region.

One thing that is so fascinating to me is that the giant pillars are shaped and arranged so similarly to the megaliths at Stonehenge.

I'm including one link--it is an amazing discovery. Lots of places you can look.
Göbekli Tepe - Wikipedia
The Easter Island sculptures, the pyramids of the Mayans, Aztec, Inca and Olmec, and the pyramids of Egypt along with the great walled palaces they built with massive stones with precision cutting and placement is an engineering feat modern humans have trouble recreating.
Therefore, aliens must have done it
 
This is fascinating. Gobekli Tepe, an archeological site being excavated in Turkey, is many thousands of years older than the first "known" civilizations, 10,000-8,000 BCE, when Mesopotamian Sumer, the "first," was dated to about 4,000 - 3,500 bce.

The tell includes two phases of use, believed to be of a social or ritual nature by site discoverer and excavator Klaus Schmidt, dating back to the 10th–8th millennium BCE.[4] During the first phase, belonging to the Pre-Pottery Neolithic A (PPNA), circles of massive T-shaped stone pillars were erected – the world's oldest known megaliths.[5]
View attachment 264090


So there were advanced civilizations occurring five to seven millenia before what has been thought. Some anthropologists surmise these people came from coastal areas that had been displaced by great floods because some of the animals and plants depicted on the pillars are not native to that region.

One thing that is so fascinating to me is that the giant pillars are shaped and arranged so similarly to the megaliths at Stonehenge.

I'm including one link--it is an amazing discovery. Lots of places you can look.
Göbekli Tepe - Wikipedia
The Easter Island sculptures, the pyramids of the Mayans, Aztec, Inca and Olmec, and the pyramids of Egypt along with the great walled palaces they built with massive stones with precision cutting and placement is an engineering feat modern humans have trouble recreating.
I'm of the mind that there have been advanced civilizations -- perhaps much more civilized than we dream -- in the past that have been entirely destroyed and buried by natural catastrophes and time. Maybe aliens have been here, but I think much of it can be attributed to us.
 
I’m an engineer and I stopped believing when I was 12

Well, you weren't an engineer at 12 were you? What made you stop?

I rebelled around then at Catholicism. Thought it was a guilt trip, but still believed in God. Why? It was just a feeling. Maybe we are just pre-destined that way.
I was a good Catholic boy who went to Sunday School before Mass

I reached an age where I could not tell the difference between Bible stories and Witches, fairies, astrology, mythology

They all had the same logical basis to me......our beliefs are the true ones

Interesting, so for you it was based on what you believed and not believed (despite going through common religious experiences). There has to be some "faith-based" systems in there which is what I get from you.

I wanted to be Catholic, but my mom knew my school and church was 30 - 45 mins away by bus. There was a larger Catholic church within 3 blocks of us in San Francisco. She said if I could go every week for 1 month, then it would be okay to become baptized. I lasted two weeks and was resigned to venial sin. After that, I never wanted to be an altar boy nor be baptized. My father knew the pastor of the church well and went some years back with him before I was born. Neither put pressure on me to be baptized.

I suppose Sunday school was like the Religion class we took. Our school was small and you advanced with practically the same students you knew since first grade. What was easy to believe was the sin part. We knew there were both good and bad people. It wasn't that bad doing prayer, wishing, and praying for stuff. As for the rest like stations of the cross, rosary, the seven sacraments, mass, and so on was ritual. Church wasn't bad even though it was small. There were larger churches in the area which we would go for marriages and funerals.

Eventually, the sin part became no fun as you just ended up feeling guilty. We were probably worse kids than public school kids. We probably fooled around with sex, alcohol, drugs, and weapons before the public school kids. The most difficult part to resolve for me was moral or social issues with the Bible during college. I didn't understand objective moral values, but saw it more as people problems and resolution. The Bible was too difficult to understand even then due to the people issues such as abortion, war, and sexual conduct were prominent. God still existed and I wanted to find him, but there was too much in the way. If I had to do the college years over again, I'd pray for him to reveal himself to me. That wasn't taught then or I never heard of it. Maybe I was out that day ;). God was more a universal God as there were multiple religions to look at.
 
This is fascinating. Gobekli Tepe, an archeological site being excavated in Turkey, is many thousands of years older than the first "known" civilizations, 10,000-8,000 BCE, when Mesopotamian Sumer, the "first," was dated to about 4,000 - 3,500 bce.

The tell includes two phases of use, believed to be of a social or ritual nature by site discoverer and excavator Klaus Schmidt, dating back to the 10th–8th millennium BCE.[4] During the first phase, belonging to the Pre-Pottery Neolithic A (PPNA), circles of massive T-shaped stone pillars were erected – the world's oldest known megaliths.[5]
View attachment 264090


So there were advanced civilizations occurring five to seven millenia before what has been thought. Some anthropologists surmise these people came from coastal areas that had been displaced by great floods because some of the animals and plants depicted on the pillars are not native to that region.

One thing that is so fascinating to me is that the giant pillars are shaped and arranged so similarly to the megaliths at Stonehenge.

I'm including one link--it is an amazing discovery. Lots of places you can look.
Göbekli Tepe - Wikipedia
The Easter Island sculptures, the pyramids of the Mayans, Aztec, Inca and Olmec, and the pyramids of Egypt along with the great walled palaces they built with massive stones with precision cutting and placement is an engineering feat modern humans have trouble recreating.
Therefore, aliens must have done it
They did.
 

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