Is there anything Obama can do and get impeached?

I dont believe in impeaching presidents because you dont like their policies. THey were elected usually on those things and thats how it works.
But it seems the Left are simply committed to the idea that Obama is unimpeachable. IRS scandal, Chokepoint. It doesnt seem to matter.
So is there anything Obama can do that would earn him impeachment and removal from office? If he took bribes would someone point out in many parts of the world that's normal so it makes it OK? If he sold secrets to China like Clinton would someone defend it as a good foreign policy move? Let's hear it.

Are you a big Biden fan?
 
I dont believe in impeaching presidents because you dont like their policies. THey were elected usually on those things and thats how it works.
But it seems the Left are simply committed to the idea that Obama is unimpeachable. IRS scandal, Chokepoint. It doesnt seem to matter.
So is there anything Obama can do that would earn him impeachment and removal from office? If he took bribes would someone point out in many parts of the world that's normal so it makes it OK? If he sold secrets to China like Clinton would someone defend it as a good foreign policy move? Let's hear it.

Are you a big Biden fan?
:badgrin:
 
It's one thing to spout rhetoric and it is a far different thing to produce your evidence. So far you've been really heavy on one and nonexistent on the other.

Put your facts together and we'll take a look. But most will not be looking through the lens of "pure hatred for Obama" that you are. So let's see you make your case.
 
He has done everything the Democrats in their impeachment papers said Nixon did.
 
Is there anything Obama can do and get impeached?


Impeached? They should be making room for him on Mount Rushmore!
 
words and accusations are easy - actually making a case? Not so easy.

Let's see it.
 
I dont believe in impeaching presidents because you dont like their policies. THey were elected usually on those things and thats how it works.
But it seems the Left are simply committed to the idea that Obama is unimpeachable. IRS scandal, Chokepoint. It doesnt seem to matter.
So is there anything Obama can do that would earn him impeachment and removal from office? If he took bribes would someone point out in many parts of the world that's normal so it makes it OK? If he sold secrets to China like Clinton would someone defend it as a good foreign policy move? Let's hear it.

Are you a big Biden fan?
I actually think Biden would have been a better president.
 
Is there anything Obama can do and get impeached?


Impeached? They should be making room for him on Mount Rushmore!

I doubt if there is room on Mount Rushmore

But I would expect a monument on the National Mall to honor one of our greatest Americans

Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson, FDR and Martin Luther King have monuments....won't be long before Obama has one
 
I dont believe in impeaching presidents because you dont like their policies. THey were elected usually on those things and thats how it works.
But it seems the Left are simply committed to the idea that Obama is unimpeachable. IRS scandal, Chokepoint. It doesnt seem to matter.
So is there anything Obama can do that would earn him impeachment and removal from office? If he took bribes would someone point out in many parts of the world that's normal so it makes it OK? If he sold secrets to China like Clinton would someone defend it as a good foreign policy move? Let's hear it.

"High Crimes and Misdemenors' isn't defined by the Constitution. It is pretty much whatever Congress thinks it is.

The question is......if congressional republicans really thinks Obama has done something worthy of impeachment, why don't these hapless chickenshits do something about it?

There are only two likely conclusions: 1) They don't think he's done something impeachment worthy 2) They're spineless nuggets of opportunistic shit that lack the moral courage and political competence to follow their convictions.

Or the theory that I'm leaning toward: yes.
 
Mr. Chief Justice, it's with profound sadness that we express our grief over the necessity of bringing these impeachment articles.

We hereby charge Barack HUSSEIN Soeterorei-ei-o with the following high crimes and misdemeanors:

Article I: Presiding while Black.

Article II: Larceny. To wit, possessing a pen and a phone and not telling us where he got them.

Article III: Having a white mother and a black-as-the-ace-of-spades Kenyan Muslim father.

Article IV: Spying on tens of millions of American without a warrant, just like President Bush. Oops! Begging your pardon, but please strike that last clause from the end of that article.
 
I dont believe in impeaching presidents because you dont like their policies. THey were elected usually on those things and thats how it works.
But it seems the Left are simply committed to the idea that Obama is unimpeachable. IRS scandal, Chokepoint. It doesnt seem to matter.
So is there anything Obama can do that would earn him impeachment and removal from office? If he took bribes would someone point out in many parts of the world that's normal so it makes it OK? If he sold secrets to China like Clinton would someone defend it as a good foreign policy move? Let's hear it.

"High Crimes and Misdemenors' isn't defined by the Constitution. It is pretty much whatever Congress thinks it is.

The question is......if congressional republicans really thinks Obama has done something worthy of impeachment, why don't these hapless chickenshits do something about it?

There are only two likely conclusions: 1) They don't think he's done something impeachment worthy 2) They're spineless nuggets of opportunistic shit that lack the moral courage and political competence to follow their convictions.

Or the theory that I'm leaning toward: yes.

You ignored the third possibility: they know they will be savaged by the Praetorian press so they decline to do so unless the public is overwhelmingly in favor of it.
 
I dont believe in impeaching presidents because you dont like their policies. THey were elected usually on those things and thats how it works.
But it seems the Left are simply committed to the idea that Obama is unimpeachable. IRS scandal, Chokepoint. It doesnt seem to matter.
So is there anything Obama can do that would earn him impeachment and removal from office? If he took bribes would someone point out in many parts of the world that's normal so it makes it OK? If he sold secrets to China like Clinton would someone defend it as a good foreign policy move? Let's hear it.

Anything we would impeach any other President for?
The Constitution is pretty clear on the issue:
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

If any President commits any of the issues above- then he or she can- and should be impeached.
 
A president may be impeached because the sky is blue; winning a conviction in the Senate is another matter altogether.
Non-answer noted.
That is the answer, if the Senate will not move to impeach there can be no impeachment. Plus, the president has to actually do something illegal.
No, he actually doesn't have to do anything illegal. Congress can impeach for any reason it likes.

Congress can impeach Obama for being black if they want to- but only if Congress ignores the clear language of the Constitution.

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Since Congress has the ultimate authority in the issue- you are right- Congress can ignore the Constitution and impeach Obama for being black, for being Christian or because he is a Democrat.
 
A president may be impeached because the sky is blue; winning a conviction in the Senate is another matter altogether.
Non-answer noted.
That is the answer, if the Senate will not move to impeach there can be no impeachment. Plus, the president has to actually do something illegal.
No, he actually doesn't have to do anything illegal. Congress can impeach for any reason it likes.

Congress can impeach Obama for being black if they want to- but only if Congress ignores the clear language of the Constitution.

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Since Congress has the ultimate authority in the issue- you are right- Congress can ignore the Constitution and impeach Obama for being black, for being Christian or because he is a Democrat.

When has the language of the Constitution ever been an obstacle to Congress?
 
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A president may be impeached because the sky is blue; winning a conviction in the Senate is another matter altogether.
Non-answer noted.
That is the answer, if the Senate will not move to impeach there can be no impeachment. Plus, the president has to actually do something illegal.
Obama has done things that are illegal.
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So you say.

The Constitution is clear on the grounds for impeachment- feel free to be specific about what action you think that Obama did that is:
Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
 
Impeachment is a political process not a legal one. Would it be in the Republican's best interests to impeach and remove Obama when looking forward to the next election? No president has been found guilty and removed with impeachment, and it is the voting public that deters impeachment. To impeach Obama would be the kiss of death for many Republicans and so they talk of it, but it's just more political BS.
 
I dont believe in impeaching presidents because you dont like their policies. THey were elected usually on those things and thats how it works.
But it seems the Left are simply committed to the idea that Obama is unimpeachable. IRS scandal, Chokepoint. It doesnt seem to matter.
So is there anything Obama can do that would earn him impeachment and removal from office? If he took bribes would someone point out in many parts of the world that's normal so it makes it OK? If he sold secrets to China like Clinton would someone defend it as a good foreign policy move? Let's hear it.

"High Crimes and Misdemenors' isn't defined by the Constitution. It is pretty much whatever Congress thinks it is.

The question is......if congressional republicans really thinks Obama has done something worthy of impeachment, why don't these hapless chickenshits do something about it?

There are only two likely conclusions: 1) They don't think he's done something impeachment worthy 2) They're spineless nuggets of opportunistic shit that lack the moral courage and political competence to follow their convictions.

Or the theory that I'm leaning toward: yes.

You ignored the third possibility: they know they will be savaged by the Praetorian press so they decline to do so unless the public is overwhelmingly in favor of it.

Which would fall firmly in the 'They're spineless nuggets of opportunistic shit that lack the moral courage and political competence to follow their convictions" territory.

If the breaches of law are so egregious as to warrant impeachment, then only a political incompetent would be unable to persuade the public.

And only a hapless coward would let their own incompetence prevent them from following the moral and ethical course of action.

Or in the case of many congressional republicans.....'incompetents' and 'cowards'.
 
Impeachment is a political process not a legal one. Would it be in the Republican's best interests to impeach and remove Obama when looking forward to the next election? No president has been found guilty and removed with impeachment, and it is the voting public that deters impeachment. To impeach Obama would be the kiss of death for many Republicans and so they talk of it, but it's just more political BS.

Its both. Which is why I cited both political incompetence and moral cowardice as joined in one of the two likely scenarios for why the republicans aren't moving on impeachment.
 
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