Is the nuclear weapon obselete?

[Big Blue Machin]

It is my opinion that the world does not need the nuclear weapon anymore. No country has the stomach to use it under normal war conditions. We should destroy the weapons before terrorists get hold of it. Nuclear should only be used for peaceful times.

 

[Hobbit]

You seem to fail to see the point of having nuclear weapons. We have nuclear weapons because, despite what could happen in an ideal world, there are a lot of them out there that we have no control over. Some day, somebody may want to use one against us. The primary deterrant away from using these things is the fact that we would immediately retaliate by lighting their little country up like the sun, annihilating them in one, swift stroke. It would be nice if we could 'unmake' nukes, but we can't, so we have to make sure that everybody knows what will happen if we get hit by one.

 

[Said1]

You seem to fail to see the point of having nuclear weapons. We have nuclear weapons because, despite what could happen in an ideal world, there are a lot of them out there that we have no control over. Some day, somebody may want to use one against us. The primary deterrant away from using these things is the fact that we would immediately retaliate by lighting their little country up like the sun, annihilating them in one, swift stroke. It would be nice if we could 'unmake' nukes, but we can't, so we have to make sure that everybody knows what will happen if we get hit by one.

MAD theory.

 

[Big Blue Machin]

You seem to fail to see the point of having nuclear weapons. We have nuclear weapons because, despite what could happen in an ideal world, there are a lot of them out there that we have no control over. Some day, somebody may want to use one against us. The primary deterrant away from using these things is the fact that we would immediately retaliate by lighting their little country up like the sun, annihilating them in one, swift stroke. It would be nice if we could 'unmake' nukes, but we can't, so we have to make sure that everybody knows what will happen if we get hit by one.

Have you ever seen Dr. Strangelove? It shows the madness of the MAD theory (no pun intended). It's insane, no one wants to be blown to bits. Nuclear deterence is a completely dumb idea, but people used it because they didn't have any better idea.

 

[Mr. P]

... Nuclear deterence is a completely dumb idea, but people used it because they didn't have any better idea.

But it works. How can you argue success? Can't be THAT dumb an idea.

 

[Big Blue Machin]

It's called luck, not success. What if something went wrong with the missles and one accidently launchedat Russia? Or a plane accidently attacked Russia? We're lucky we didn't blown ourselves to bits.

 

[Mr. P]

It's called luck, not success. What if something went wrong with the missles and one accidently launchedat Russia? Or a plane accidently attacked Russia? We're lucky we didn't blown ourselves to bits.

What if the earth was really flat? "What if" all day and you'll still be in the same place.

 

[Big Blue Machin]

By the way, you spelt Mason-Dixon wrong.

 

[Mr. P]

By the way, you spelt Mason-Dixon wrong.

Splet? no, that's correct. I could include a "-" I guess, what's yer point?

 

[Big Blue Machin]

Google it.

 

[Mr. P]

Google it.

What? Mason-Dixon? :rotflmao:

 

[Annie]

What? Mason-Dixon? :rotflmao:

Maybe he meant 'spelt'?

http://www.spelt.com/

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Spelt's "nutty" flavor has long been popular in Europe, where it is also known as "Farro" (Italy) and "Dinkle" (Germany). In Roman times it was "Farrum", and origins can be traced back early Mesopotamia. Spelt (Triticum spelta) is a ancient and distant cousin to modern wheat (Triticum aestivum). Spelt is one of the oldest of cultivated grains, preceded only by Emmer and Elkorn.

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Some 800 years ago Hildegard von Bingen, (St.Hildegard) wrote about spelt: "The spelt is the best of grains. It is rich and nourishing and milder than other grain. It produces a strong body and healthy blood to those who eat it and it makes the spirit of man light and cheerful. If someone is ill boil some spelt, mix it with egg and this will heal him like a fine ointment."

What brought the decline in production of spelt in North America is now thought of as a benefit. Spelt has a tough hull, or husk, that makes it more difficult to process than modern wheat varieties. However, the husk, separated just before milling, not only protects the kernel, but helps retain nutrients and maintain freshness. Modern wheat has changed dramatically over the decades as it has been bred to be easier to grow and harvest, to increase yield, and to have a high gluten content for the production of high-volume commercial baked goods. Unlike wheat, spelt has retained many of its original traits and remains highly nutritious and full of flavor.

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Since its reintroduction to the market in 1987 by Purity Foods Inc., spelt has become a top-selling product in the organic and health food markets. Flour made from the versatile grain can be substituted for wheat flour in breads, pasta, cookies, crackers, cakes, muffins, pancakes and waffles.

Modern cooks are rediscovering the full flavor of whole grain spelt pastas and breads, the more subtle flavor and texture of white pastas and flours as well as spelt kernels in their dishes.

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[MissileMan]

Splet? no, that's correct. I could include a "-" I guess, what's yer point?

The guy who spelled obsolete incorrectly is picking on your spelling?

 

[Mr. P]

The guy who spelled obsolete incorrectly is picking on your spelling?

Guess I should fix it.

 

[Mr. P]

Guess I should fix it.

I "FEEL" so much better now!

 

[Hobbit]

It's called luck, not success. What if something went wrong with the missles and one accidently launchedat Russia? Or a plane accidently attacked Russia? We're lucky we didn't blown ourselves to bits.

First off, if you knew half the failsafes we have on those nukes, you wouldn't be so worried. Second, we can't unmake the atom bomb. It's out of the bag, and we can't put it back in. Your only solution involves destroying all nuclear weapons. That's not going to work, because without any other nuclear powers to retaliate, Iran will have absolutely no obstacles to just wiping us out. Knowing this, you can bet every nuclear power will destroy all the nukes people know about, keeping a few covert ones around for a rainy day. It's like communism. I can work in theory, but only if everyone cooperates.

So, barring the impossible, do you have a better solution than just letting MAD and possibly an SDI system shield us from nukes?

 

[Just a guy]

It is my opinion that the world does not need the nuclear weapon anymore.

Nuclear weapons are one of the more stupid things ever invented by man. They will be needed until someone either builds the complete and cheap protection against them or until someone invents an even more devastating weapon.

No country has the stomach to use it under normal war conditions.

Condition of war isn't normal. Nuclear weapons will be used in war. Rest asure that the use of nuclear weapons is already planned for by strategyst with possesion of them.

Second, we can't unmake the atom bomb. It's out of the bag, and we can't put it back in.

Spot-on

It is a scary world...
I wonder when, where and by who nuclear weapons will be used next?
U.S.A or Russia maybe - tactical use on a battlefield - Minor or no political harm done.
For a massdestructive use there need to be a nation not too concerned with the political loss and not worried about retaliation. N. Korea maybe? We'll just have to wait and see...