Is the marketplace of ideas in a recession?

[schmidlap]

Civil discussion is elusive in the best of times, but when rational exegesis founded upon empirical data is received with braying yelps, yips, and yowls - fanatical, mindless devotion to a Cry Baby Loser - it's utterly futile.​

“O Judgment ! Thou art fled to brutish beasts, and men have lost their reason !”​

The worst are full of passionate intensity.
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TRUMP VOTERS CLING TO 2020 Tale​

While most Americans rightly see Joe Biden as the legitimate winner of the 2020 presidential election, time, facts and evidence have done little to shift the attitudes of Trump voters who stubbornly cling to the fantasy that their candidate actually won...​

A lot happened since December. The Electoral College met; Congress counted their votes and declared Biden the winner; Biden was duly inaugurated as president; and Trump forces lost at least 86 lawsuits challenging the results.

All those facts, and yet, Trump voters in Arizona remain convinced, without an iota of evidence, that the former president actually won their state and the race nationwide.

What can we learn from this irrational stability?...

[M]any conservatives are, and believe they should be, importantly impervious to evidence. Conservatives tend to discount the opinions of elites and the evidence they cite...

40 percent of Trump voters admitting they would not be persuaded of Biden’s victory, either by Trump losing his legal challenges or by Trump conceding. Evidence is just not terribly relevant to a sizable segment of the GOP.

[Mellman: Trump voters cling to 2020 tale]

"That's right! It only squawks what it hears on the radio.
It's not capable of cognition, and it'll just shit on facts."​

 

[Oddball]

 

[Bernhard]

Online media thoroughly changed the public sphere, much like the invention of the printing press. Thanks to that, we got massive fake news campaigns, a hyper polarization and a massive deterioriation of public discourse.

Don't worry. After the invention of the printing press, we just got 200 years of reformation wars, the devastation of central Europe during wars between Catholics and Protestants, the inquisition and the massive spread of anti-Jewish conspiracy theories.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Whether Biden won legitimately or not, he's a total disaster.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Commies don't like the marketplace.......

 

[schmidlap]

Whether Biden won legitimately or not, he's a total disaster.

That would explain his public approval domestically and positive reception by democratic allies.

 

[Mac1958]

Civil discussion is elusive in the best of times, but when rational exegesis founded upon empirical data is received with braying yelps, yips, and yowls - fanatical, mindless devotion to a Cry Baby Loser - it's utterly futile.​

“O Judgment ! Thou art fled to brutish beasts, and men have lost their reason !”​

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The worst are full of passionate intensity.
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TRUMP VOTERS CLING TO 2020 Tale​

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While most Americans rightly see Joe Biden as the legitimate winner of the 2020 presidential election, time, facts and evidence have done little to shift the attitudes of Trump voters who stubbornly cling to the fantasy that their candidate actually won...​

A lot happened since December. The Electoral College met; Congress counted their votes and declared Biden the winner; Biden was duly inaugurated as president; and Trump forces lost at least 86 lawsuits challenging the results.

All those facts, and yet, Trump voters in Arizona remain convinced, without an iota of evidence, that the former president actually won their state and the race nationwide.

What can we learn from this irrational stability?...

[M]any conservatives are, and believe they should be, importantly impervious to evidence. Conservatives tend to discount the opinions of elites and the evidence they cite...

40 percent of Trump voters admitting they would not be persuaded of Biden’s victory, either by Trump losing his legal challenges or by Trump conceding. Evidence is just not terribly relevant to a sizable segment of the GOP.

[Mellman: Trump voters cling to 2020 tale]

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"That's right! It only squawks what it hears on the radio.
It's not capable of cognition, and it'll just shit on facts."​

Looking back, we should have seen this coming. It's been building for 30+ years with talk radio, and then went exponential with the internet.

Now they literally have their own, separate, fully-functioning, insulated "information" ecosystem. Their own reality.

We missed it. Now we have to find a way to deal with it.

 

[schmidlap]

Online media thoroughly changed the public sphere, much like the invention of the printing press. Thanks to that, we got massive fake news campaigns, a hyper polarization and a massive deterioriation of public discourse.

Don't worry. After the invention of the printing press, we just got 200 years of reformation wars, the devastation of central Europe during wars between Catholics and Protestants, the inquisition and the massive spread of anti-Jewish conspiracy theories.

Facts still matter, and they are ascertainable, even for those who react to them as a vampire to a crucifix.

 

[Crepitus]

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If you stopped believing in wacky conspiracy theories you wouldn't have to see these threads anymore.

Wise up.

 

[danielpalos]

Commies don't like the marketplace.......

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Fascists don't understand the marketplace.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Commies don't like the marketplace.......

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Fascists don't understand the marketplace.

Makes sense, they're just a different type of Commie.

 

[22lcidw]

Civil discussion is elusive in the best of times, but when rational exegesis founded upon empirical data is received with braying yelps, yips, and yowls - fanatical, mindless devotion to a Cry Baby Loser - it's utterly futile.​

“O Judgment ! Thou art fled to brutish beasts, and men have lost their reason !”​

View attachment 502015
The worst are full of passionate intensity.
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TRUMP VOTERS CLING TO 2020 Tale​

​

While most Americans rightly see Joe Biden as the legitimate winner of the 2020 presidential election, time, facts and evidence have done little to shift the attitudes of Trump voters who stubbornly cling to the fantasy that their candidate actually won...​

A lot happened since December. The Electoral College met; Congress counted their votes and declared Biden the winner; Biden was duly inaugurated as president; and Trump forces lost at least 86 lawsuits challenging the results.

All those facts, and yet, Trump voters in Arizona remain convinced, without an iota of evidence, that the former president actually won their state and the race nationwide.

What can we learn from this irrational stability?...

[M]any conservatives are, and believe they should be, importantly impervious to evidence. Conservatives tend to discount the opinions of elites and the evidence they cite...

40 percent of Trump voters admitting they would not be persuaded of Biden’s victory, either by Trump losing his legal challenges or by Trump conceding. Evidence is just not terribly relevant to a sizable segment of the GOP.

[Mellman: Trump voters cling to 2020 tale]

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"That's right! It only squawks what it hears on the radio.
It's not capable of cognition, and it'll just shit on facts."​

It is like you are driven to bring back endless death and destruction.

 

[schmidlap]

It is like you are driven to bring back endless death and destruction.

Is there any article of faith in the dogma of trumpery that you can ween yourself off of, or do you suck it all down uncritically?

 

[Mac-7]

Looking back, we should have seen this coming. It's been building for 30+ years with talk radio, and then went exponential with the internet.

Libs like you were happy when there were only 3 TV and radio news networks

Uncle Walter told liberals what to think and there were no dissenting opinions

 

[Bernhard]

Online media thoroughly changed the public sphere, much like the invention of the printing press. Thanks to that, we got massive fake news campaigns, a hyper polarization and a massive deterioriation of public discourse.

Don't worry. After the invention of the printing press, we just got 200 years of reformation wars, the devastation of central Europe during wars between Catholics and Protestants, the inquisition and the massive spread of anti-Jewish conspiracy theories.

Facts still matter, and they are ascertainable, even for those who react to them as a vampire to a crucifix.

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It looks to me like it now becomes obvious that a certain share of the people don't really have the basic skills required to tell facts from lies.

A while back, they'd just lurk somewhere and wouldn't say much. Today, they form online communities and spread their "issues" into the public. And certain politicians found they can perfectly feed them with more lies to win elections and base tyrannies on the support of these people.

 

[schmidlap]

Looking back, we should have seen this coming. It's been building for 30+ years with talk radio, and then went exponential with the internet.

Now they literally have their own, separate, fully-functioning, insulated "information" ecosystem. Their own reality.

We missed it. Now we have to find a way to deal with it.

After the Fairness Doctrine was abandoned, it became possible to force-feed a highly-restricted diet of paranoidal prejudices to those with an insatiable appetite that reacts to eclecticism as if it were a powerful emetic.

I don't see how reason can ever assuage mindless emotion.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

That would explain his public approval domestically and positive reception by democratic allies.

Your reliance on push polling from leftist sources is well known and not fooling anyone with at least a room temperature IQ. Push poll - Wikipedia

Your cheer leading for the senile racist, pedophile, Putin butt boy is embarrassing. Or it would be if your
sense of personal shame wasn't overwhelmed by your psychotic need to lie to people who can see
you are full of crap, Skinflap. Take your purple prose and jam it!

You think the G-7 team is all overjoyed Biden is there to tell them what to do?

Biden’s gaffe at G-7 summit sparks laughter from world leaders

President Joe Biden mistakingly thought South African President Cyril Ramaphosa was skipped during the introduction at the summit.

nypost.com

You pathetic dumb fucker!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

After the Fairness Doctrine was abandoned,

Why did you like the Fairness Doctrine?

 

[Bernhard]

That would explain his public approval domestically and positive reception by democratic allies.

You pathetic dumb fucker!

Well, the reaction here in Germany and as far as I heard in the Netherlands and France too, was overwhelmingly positive.

Sure, domestic authoritarian fascists were not so fond of him, but there was a time when Americans believed that was a good thing.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Well, the reaction here in Germany and as far as I heard in the Netherlands and France too, was overwhelmingly positive.

Sure, domestic authoritarian fascists were not so fond of him, but there was a time when Americans believed that was a good thing.

Your anecdotal tales don't impress me much. I have a daughter in Germany and she tells a different tale.
Since when has America ever believed that a crooked, mentally incapacitated racist, pedophile as president
is a "good thing"?

I've never heard that before.