Is The Democrat Plan To Damage The Economy Working?

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ray you can agree that a close election is truly the sign of a nation on the rise...indisputable. THIS IS WHY america is In GOOD SHAPE.

I don't know about that. What it does say is how divided our country is and has been for a long time. The problem is with the left continuing to go even further left, the divide is getting much wider.

 

[initforme]

I have taught my kids well about the pitfalls of america and how to avoid them.

 

[initforme]

We are divided in many ways with the biggest in socioeconomic class. But all these divisions only strengthen us.

 

[Zorro!]

I don't think its working....the economy is too strong for the dems to completely smother it....all the dems are doing is inflicting pain and suffering onto small business owners....and those business owners all vote...TRUMP 2020.....

Perhaps but it is working to the point of retarding our national unemployment numbers. That's all they want. Imagine if they weren't doing this. Our unemployment rate dropped to 7.9% in September. It could be back down in the 6% range right now if they were not pulling their stunts, perhaps 5% by November.

3rd quarter GDP numbers will be out in two weeks and it should be one for the record books. The best GDP quarter was Q1 1950 at 16.7% a record that has stood for 70 years and through 11 presidents.

The Atlantic Fed is nowcasting 3Q 2020 at 35.2%
The Midline of the Blue Chip Consensus is 29%
The Low End is 22%

Anything over 16.7% will be the best quarter ever recorded.

Look at how the estimate has been climbing throughout the quarter as the data has come in, surprise after surprise, all to the upside. That's the way it always is, with Trump!

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong. The amount of overage in Hillary votes was less than the amount of overage she won in California.

You can paint it anyway you want, but Trump got a lot less votes and barely squeaked by in most states...

The People Said No. They said No a little louder in 2018.... And in 2020, we throw his ass out and into prison.

 

[JoeB131]

3rd quarter GDP numbers will be out in two weeks and it should be one for the record books. The best GDP quarter was Q1 1950 at 16.7% a record that has stood for 70 years and through 11 presidents.

The Atlantic Fed is nowcasting 3Q 2020 at 35.2%
The Midline of the Blue Chip Consensus is 29%
The Low End is 22%

Anything over 16.7% will be the best quarter ever recorded.

But we'll still be in negative numbers for the year, that's the thing...

 

[beagle9]

3rd quarter GDP numbers will be out in two weeks and it should be one for the record books. The best GDP quarter was Q1 1950 at 16.7% a record that has stood for 70 years and through 11 presidents.

The Atlantic Fed is nowcasting 3Q 2020 at 35.2%
The Midline of the Blue Chip Consensus is 29%
The Low End is 22%

Anything over 16.7% will be the best quarter ever recorded.

But we'll still be in negative numbers for the year, that's the thing...

Are you for real ? The pandemic is a myth then... LOL

 

[JoeB131]

Are you for real ? The pandemic is a myth then... LOL

Doesn't matter. Trump will be the first president since Hoover to post a net jobs loss...

 

[beagle9]

Are you for real ? The pandemic is a myth then... LOL

Doesn't matter. Trump will be the first president since Hoover to post a net jobs loss...

You love to see the economy hurt don't you lefty ?

 

[JoeB131]

You love to see the economy hurt don't you lefty ?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Trump was a guy who lost money selling steaks, vodka and gambling. That he was going to fuck this up was a foregone conclusion.

 

[DBA]

Doesn't matter.

The pandemic doesn't matter with regards to the economy? I guess every single leader of every single country in the entire world should be replaced then. Nice logic there Einstein.

 

[JoeB131]

The pandemic doesn't matter with regards to the economy? I guess every single leader of every single country in the entire world should be replaced then. Nice logic there Einstein.

Every other leader treated it like a real crisis. They didn't call it a hoax, they didn't say it's go away by Easter, they didn't tell people to inject bleach.

And a lot of those leaders who did a better job WILL be replaced. Boris Johnson is on his way out...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You can paint it anyway you want, but Trump got a lot less votes and barely squeaked by in most states...

The People Said No. They said No a little louder in 2018.... And in 2020, we throw his ass out and into prison.

How is fact a spin? I gave you the numbers, provided the links, and you call it spin. If you don't like my sources, then find reliable ones and post it.

The fact of the matter is our founders created the idea of the electoral college for just that reason. They didn't want one or two states to have control over the President for the rest of the country. California is a commie state who would choose the most commie President. Our founders foreseen that hundreds of years ago.

If we had a popular vote, the needs of low populated states would be almost totally ignored. A President would only provide help and aid to those who had the most people. If a hurricane wiped you out, too bad. Tornado's? Rebuild yourself. Your state gets something like Covid? You figure it out.

 

[JoeB131]

The fact of the matter is our founders created the idea of the electoral college for just that reason.

The Founding Slave Rapists did a lot of stupid things... that's not a good reason to keep doing them.

If we had a popular vote, the needs of low populated states would be almost totally ignored.

As they are now... Come on, how much time is Trump spending in Wymoing.

It's not the low-populated states that get attention. It's the swing states... So this election is going to come down to six swing states - WI, MI, PA, NC, FL and AZ. CA, NY, and IL will be ignored

OH and TX might be swing states, but if they come into play, Trump is so far gone it won't matter.

Popular vote, the president won't be running for President of the Swing States, he'd be running for president of the whole country, as he should be.

If a hurricane wiped you out, too bad.

Okay... again, how is that different from what happens now? They still haven't rebuilt Puerto Rico from Hurricane Maria.

There's really no good reason why we still have an electoral college. The reason the issue never comes up is that it just validates the popular vote in most cases.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The Founding Slave Rapists did a lot of stupid things... that's not a good reason to keep doing them.

It's stupid not to allow one or two states to pick the President of the entire country? It's stupid to allow it. Plus we can't ever change it. The only reason you're against is is because you leftists are sore losers. You can't win playing by the rules of the game.

As they are now... Come on, how much time is Trump spending in Wymoing.

It's not the low-populated states that get attention. It's the swing states... So this election is going to come down to six swing states - WI, MI, PA, NC, FL and AZ. CA, NY, and IL will be ignored

OH and TX might be swing states, but if they come into play, Trump is so far gone it won't matter.

Popular vote, the president won't be running for President of the Swing States, he'd be running for president of the whole country, as he should be.

The President spent a lot of time in those smaller states to get those electoral votes. It's how he beat Hillary. She didn't go near them. She was campaigning in states she already had. Just because Trump is not campaigning in smaller states doesn't mean he won't help them. He's got their vote this time and it's smart to concentrate on swing states.

Okay... again, how is that different from what happens now? They still haven't rebuilt Puerto Rico from Hurricane Maria.

There's really no good reason why we still have an electoral college. The reason the issue never comes up is that it just validates the popular vote in most cases.

In PR, there was a lot of crooked crap going on with the money Trump sent there. In fact recently, the Governor there stated he's supporting Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/28/heres-why-trump-says-puerto-rico-is-getting-billion-disaster-relief/

The President has to help out states as needed thanks to the electoral college we have. He wouldn't have to do that if we had a popular vote. Plus the fact this is how we are going to vote for generations or perhaps forever. You'd need a constitutional amendment to change it.

 

[Zorro!]

3rd quarter GDP numbers will be out in two weeks and it should be one for the record books. The best GDP quarter was Q1 1950 at 16.7% a record that has stood for 70 years and through 11 presidents.

The Atlantic Fed is nowcasting 3Q 2020 at 35.2%
The Midline of the Blue Chip Consensus is 29%
The Low End is 22%

Anything over 16.7% will be the best quarter ever recorded.

But we'll still be in negative numbers for the year, that's the thing...

Are you for real ? The pandemic is a myth then... LOL

3Q GDP sure doesn't look like a myth, more like one for the history books! Hat's off to the incredible American People!

 

[JoeB131]

It's stupid not to allow one or two states to pick the President of the entire country? It's stupid to allow it. Plus we can't ever change it. The only reason you're against is is because you leftists are sore losers. You can't win playing by the rules of the game.

One or two states can't pick it. That's the point. Trump will still get 40% of the vote in NY and CA. Biden will get 40% of the vote in Texas... there's really no "one State" picking...

It's the majority of the people in the entire country.

I'm against it because I trust the people. The people got it right in 2000, and GWB was an awful president who gave us two wars and two recessions. The people got it right in 2016, and Trump gave us Trump Plague, Trump Depression, Trump Riots...

Now, if someone wins the popular vote and he turns out to be kind of a fuckup, that's on us.

In PR, there was a lot of crooked crap going on with the money Trump sent there. In fact recently, the Governor there stated he's supporting Trump.

Proving he was the one who was crooked. So we can chalk that up to another case of Trump fucking something up, but it didn't involve white people, so you didn't care.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

One or two states can't pick it. That's the point. Trump will still get 40% of the vote in NY and CA. Biden will get 40% of the vote in Texas... there's really no "one State" picking...

It's the majority of the people in the entire country.

No it's not. New York City has a larger population than 8 of our lowest populated states combined. Between them and LA, they have a larger population than our 10 least populated states. That leaves them completely powerless if they vote the exact opposite as those two cities do.

Proving he was the one who was crooked. So we can chalk that up to another case of Trump fucking something up, but it didn't involve white people, so you didn't care.

How did Trump fuckup something they did? You're right, I do not care........do not care that they weren't white. That's your hangup, not mine.

 

[JoeB131]

No it's not. New York City has a larger population than 8 of our lowest populated states combined. Between them and LA, they have a larger population than our 10 least populated states. That leaves them completely powerless if they vote the exact opposite as those two cities do.

That's a good argument against the EC. Why should 8 sparsely states have more representation than the biggest cities...

How did Trump fuckup something they did? You're right, I do not care........do not care that they weren't white. That's your hangup, not mine.

Trump is the president... it's his job to take care of these things... He's failed time and time again.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That's a good argument against the EC. Why should 8 sparsely states have more representation than the biggest cities...

They shouldn't, but one city shouldn't have more power than 8 of them either, hence the need to have an electoral collage; to help put everybody on a close to level playing field.

Trump is the president... it's his job to take care of these things... He's failed time and time again.

His job is to allocate help to states, not stand there, pass out cash, and following people to see what they're going to do with it. It's why we have different levels of government. The money goes to the states, and the state leaders decide how best to use the money.