Is Russell Wilson a HOFer?

[Couchpotato]

If you asked me that just last year I’d have said yes, the only question was would he be 1st ballot or not, based on his career trajectory. But after seeing his play so far this year if he doesn’t turn it around that’s in question. He looks terrible. If Russ retired today is he a HOFer? He’s not top 20 is any qb stat. 1-1 in the SB and the Seahawks were a defensive run centric team.

IMO the answer is no. He has to get his play back in line with how he played in the past or I think he gets left out.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes

Maybe not first ballot, but HOF

 

[Couchpotato]

Yes

Maybe not first ballot, but HOF

Stafford? Flaco?

 

[rightwinger]

Stafford? Flaco?

No and no

 

[Ralph Norton]

If you asked me that just last year I’d have said yes, the only question was would he be 1st ballot or not, based on his career trajectory. But after seeing his play so far this year if he doesn’t turn it around that’s in question. He looks terrible. If Russ retired today is he a HOFer? He’s not top 20 is any qb stat. 1-1 in the SB and the Seahawks were a defensive run centric team.

IMO the answer is no. He has to get his play back in line with how he played in the past or I think he gets left out.

NO.
When I was a kid 50 years ago HOFers were once in a generation players.
Now it's anyone who was really good for X amount of time or has a SB ring.
Stafford: possibly with several more really good years.
Flacco: no.

 

[rightwinger]

I have watched the NFL for over 50 years

Russell Wilson had the best pocket presence I ever saw. Not wild scrambling when the pocket collapses but taking a few steps to buy more time.

He carried a weak Seattle offense that refused to invest in a line.

 

[Couchpotato]

No and no

Both have better stats than Russ. Stafford has as many rings and almost twice the yds. Russ has never been a top 5 qb in any year of his career and has been 15 or worse more years than he’s been top 10. I get it, like I said I would have said yes last year but I’m rethinking that take as a media creation more than what is reality.

 

[Couchpotato]

I have watched the NFL for over 50 years

Russell Wilson had the best pocket presence I ever saw. Not wild scrambling when the pocket collapses but taking a few steps to buy more time.

He carried a weak Seattle offense that refused to invest in a line.

He gets in the HOF based on “pocket presence“? I think you’re reaching a bit there.

 

[rightwinger]

Both have better stats than Russ. Stafford has as many rings and almost twice the yds. Russ has never been a top 5 qb in any year of his career and has been 15 or worse more years than he’s been top 10. I get it, like I said I would have said yes last year but I’m rethinking that take as a media creation more than what is reality.

Stats are deceptive

Playing on a Detroit team that was always playing from behind is a good way to compile passing yards

Seattle played a more conservative offense. Wilson made it work.

 

[task0778]

His numbers in Denver suck. If that is an indication of his future production then I'd say his HOF chances aren't too good.

 

[Ralph Norton]

Playing on a Detroit team that was always playing from behind is a good way to compile passing yards

It's also a good way to get the s%$t beat out of you and Stafford did.

 

[Couchpotato]

Stats are deceptive

Playing on a Detroit team that was always playing from behind is a good way to compile passing yards

Seattle played a more conservative offense. Wilson made it work.

Or Pete Carroll played a conservative offense because he knew he’d get what we are currently seeing in Denver if he didn’t.

 

[Blaster]

Wilson is a good QB but no hall-of-famer in my opinion.

 

[Rocko]

I have watched the NFL for over 50 years

Russell Wilson had the best pocket presence I ever saw. Not wild scrambling when the pocket collapses but taking a few steps to buy more time.

He carried a weak Seattle offense that refused to invest in a line.

No way. Guys like Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen are more elusive in and out of the pocket than Wilson.

Maybe Wilson was the most elusive at one point, but nowadays there’s a hand full of QBs that are more elusive

 

[Rocko]

His numbers in Denver suck. If that is an indication of his future production then I'd say his HOF chances aren't too good.

He’s already on the wrong side of 30 though

 

[Borillar]

I suppose if someone like Joe Namath can make it in on the strength of 1 SB win and a “guarantee”, Russell Wilson stands a chance. I don’t think he deserves it though.

 

[Blaster]

I suppose if someone like Joe Namath can make it in on the strength of 1 SB win and a “guarantee”, Russell Wilson stands a chance. I don’t think he deserves it though.

The only two locks for the hall-of-fame are Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady.

 

[Couchpotato]

The only two locks for the hall-of-fame are Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady.

Big Ben’s a lock first ballot. 2 SB rings, top 5 in yards top 10 in TDs. He’s in 6 years from now.

 

[katsteve2012]

Wilson is a good quarterback IMO, but not a great one, especially when he is compared to the current crop of young as well as seasoned star quarterbacks.

And, if he doesn't turn things around in Denver, before this season ends, that will negatively impact his chances of getting into the HOF even more.

JMO.

 

[Failzero]

Not in the Jim Plunkett kinda way