Is our justice system now gone because of Trump?

[Godboy]

They were blanket pardons................by Trumps own admission. He did not want to spend the time to study each and every one

No, their crimes are known, therefore it isnt a blanket pardon for anything that "may or may not have occurred".

 

[Godboy]

If they’re being held accountable for “crimes”, then you’re saying there will be charges and trials?

Youd have to be pretty fucking stupid to not see charges coming for mutliple people on the federal government.

 

[berg80]

Yeah yeah, the same for goes everyone that Trump is now going after. They just hate being held accountable for their crimes.

What crimes? Since when is investigating a crime a crime?

 

[Moonglow]

Nixon was not given a blanket pardon for everything that happened for a period of years.

The pardon of Richard Nixon (officially, Proclamation 4311) was a presidential proclamation issued by President of the United States Gerald Ford on September 8, 1974, granting a full and unconditional pardon to Richard Nixon, his predecessor, for any crimes that he might have committed against the United States as president ...

Pardon of Richard Nixon - Wikipedia​

 

[Luckyone]

No, their crimes are known, therefore it isnt a blanket pardon for anything that "may or may not have occurred".

You are totally blind by choice

 

[Marener]

Youd have to be pretty fucking stupid to not see charges coming for mutliple people on the federal government.

“Multiple”? He’s firing dozens and dozens of people (hundreds?) from the DoJ. Why so few charges but so many firings if they’re being fired for committing crimes?

 

[Godboy]

Just like Trump did not like (or accept) being accountable for his proven-to-be-true crimes. and he avoided paying for them

He "avoided paying for them" because every single case fell apart.

 

[Moonglow]

What crimes? Since when is investigating a crime a crime?

When is it against a felon who wants to be president.

 

[Moonglow]

He "avoided paying for them" because every single case fell apart.

Not his convictions.

 

[Godboy]

What crimes?

The crimes that they committed, of course. lawfare, conspiracy to violate rights, destruction of government documents, and problably a shitload of other crimes.

 

[Marener]

Nixon was not given a blanket pardon for everything that happened for a period of years.

Ah, so you’re ignorant.

He "avoided paying for them" because every single case fell apart.

The cases were ongoing, stymied by conservative judges who decided to rewrite the rules to help him avoid consequences. The way true autocracy would.

 

[Luckyone]

He "avoided paying for them" because every single case fell apart.

By whose standards? His? He was convicted BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS, wasn't he. Has that conviction been reversed?

 

[berg80]

No, their crimes are known

By who? You don't seem to know what they are.

 

[Luckyone]

The crimes that they committed, of course. lawfare, conspiracy to violate rights, destruction of government documents, and problably a shitload of other crimes.

but, but, but Trump was innocent when accused of the same crimes, no?

 

[Dragonlady]

We told you guys for 4 straight years what we would do if you kept up the lawfare. You all laughed at us at the time. You were drunk on your power and you simply didnt care. You sure as fuck care now though, dont you. Sorry, its too late. Payback is a bitch

Trump is a criminal who should have been jailed on January 7, 2021. Congratulations and welcome to the dictatorship.

That took less time than I thought.

 

[Godboy]

The pardon of Richard Nixon (officially, Proclamation 4311) was a presidential proclamation issued by President of the United States Gerald Ford on September 8, 1974, granting a full and unconditional pardon to Richard Nixon, his predecessor, for any crimes that he might have committed against the United States as president ...

Pardon of Richard Nixon - Wikipedia​

Fair enough, but no one has ever accused him of doing anything other than bugging a room. There isnt a mystery behind what his pardon was for.

 

[Godboy]

By whose standards? His? He was convicted BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS, wasn't he. Has that conviction been reversed?

It hasnt gone to appeals yet, so no it hasnt been reversed, but it will.

 

[berg80]

Ah, so you’re ignorant.

The cases were ongoing, stymied by conservative judges who decided to rewrite the rules to help him avoid consequences. The way true autocracy would.

Not to be redundant, but the things trump is doing are right out of Authoritarian Rule 101.

 

[Godboy]

By who? You don't seem to know what they are.

Everyone was handed a tesspassing charge and a conspiracy charge. Some individuals were charged with destruction of property, and others were charged with assault. Thats it.

 

[berg80]

Fair enough, but no one has ever accused him of doing anything other than bugging a room. There isnt a mystery behind what his pardon was for.

There isn't any mystery behind what Biden's pardons were for either. They were given to prevent EXACTLY the kinds of things trump is doing.